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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

quote:

I endorse Donald Trump for President of the United States because I oppose bullying in all its forms.

Hang on, I've got something for this.


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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Apparently actual American Indians will call themselves Indians because being mistaken for a different continent 500 years ago doesn't really offend them. I prefer "Native Americans" myself, but that's mostly for clarity because Indian Americans from India are also a thing.

And if you want to feel offended by Star Trek's handling of Native Americans, there's always Chakotay. Did you know the cultural advisor they got to inform Chakotay's character was a con man who had been exposed over ten years earlier?

If the college course I took on Indigenous Issues was any indication than a large number of people don't like being called the wrong name for centuries and prefer if you use First Nations or the name of their nation. Though maybe it's different in :canada:

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!

Memento posted:

Hang on, I've got something for this.




That statement is beyond making no sense.

It makes the opposite of sense.

It makes unsense.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Krinkle posted:

I was watching star trek TNG for the first time in 25 years and in the last season they go to a planet of native americans and even four hundred years in the future they're still calling them indians. I felt like I was taking crazy pills.

That one is bad, but the Chakotay stuff in Voyager is ten times worse.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
Lol

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Improbable Lobster posted:

If the college course I took on Indigenous Issues was any indication than a large number of people don't like being called the wrong name for centuries and prefer if you use First Nations or the name of their nation. Though maybe it's different in :canada:

It's definitely different, if for no other reason than the fact that pretty much no one south of the Canada border uses the term "First Nations." I'm pretty sure the nation/tribal affiliation is still the preferred identifier, but I've heard from different sources that using "Indian" as a sweeping term isn't that big a deal among US Native Americans unless you do it the way Cleavland does it.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Begemot posted:

That one is bad, but the Chakotay stuff in Voyager is ten times worse.

I didn't watch much Voyager. Examples please?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

I didn't get it at first and was like "Why is Trump's airplane dropping peanuts on what appears to be London"

Now I realize it is a butt, and there is poo coming from the butt

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Avenging_Mikon posted:

I didn't watch much Voyager. Examples please?

"Tattoo."

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
it is powerful imagery

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!


His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

These people really hate the poors having health care.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Apparently actual American Indians will call themselves Indians because being mistaken for a different continent 500 years ago doesn't really offend them. I prefer "Native Americans" myself, but that's mostly for clarity because Indian Americans from India are also a thing.

And if you want to feel offended by Star Trek's handling of Native Americans, there's always Chakotay. Did you know the cultural advisor they got to inform Chakotay's character was a con man who had been exposed over ten years earlier?


I lived near a few reservations, and knew a share of native americans growing up and it was always my experience folks generally always used a sioux, chippewa, ojibwe, etc tribe to refer to themselves specifically but didn't pause at using indian referring to themselves and others in a broader sense. But then, who am I to talk about this, I've preferred to just ask someone what term they like instead of trying to figure out what "the ok term" is.


EDIT:

Hahaha, this reminds me of and old Allie parody I made a long time ago.

Tom Guycot fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Oct 27, 2016

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Okay, so, who is Allie saying gets the "clear conscience" vote here, since it isn't "I'm very much pro-women and minorities" Clinton?

Trump? The one so odious, so foul, so loving toxic that even Allie can't depict as anything other than a skunk?

Johnson? The child of such total, overwhelming privilege that he thinks a President doesn't need to know jack poo poo about anything except weed and old memes?

Stein? The one Allie doesn't even acknowledge because she's that much of an edge-case crazy?

Throwing your vote away and letting everyone else decide for you? You know, the worst option of all?

HOW THE gently caress DO YOU HAVE A CLEAR CONSCIENCE HERE, ALLIE?

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Allie just draws the comic; Stantis writes it.

I know this because Stantis has admitted being wrong in Prickly City, which Allie would never, ever do.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀


So a few bad clowns make all clowns bad.

Because a few bad Muslims make all Muslims bad.

It's prefect logical sense.




How do you feel about cops, drunk duck?

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



One of these days you are going to successfully out-rant a .jpg.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME
Someone forgot. :911:

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Xander77 posted:

One of these days you are going to successfully out-rant a .jpg.

Don't take me out of my happy place :saddowns:

Someday someone's gonna start posting page-by-pages of another Rall thing and then you'll be sorry

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

"Bad news, Knudsen! Nobody is making GBS threads anymore, so the sewer business is finito! We are all up on the street!"
"What am I supposed to do now, then?"
"Regrettably, you have to work on your art."
"Why isn't that man useful to society, mother?"
"Louder, Markus."
"WHY ISNT.."

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender

SexyBlindfold posted:

That statement is beyond making no sense.

It makes the opposite of sense.

It makes unsense.
I think there's a little more nuance there than "he's an idiot" (although recently he's been insufferable). He's basically just a troll, and you can't really take anything he says at face-value.

For many years his posts were typically about some outlandish claim couched in a tongue-in-cheek style where he'd attempt to convince the reader that it made sense. In some cases it's clearly nonsense ("contain ISIS by literally building a wall around them", "To defeat ISIS we need to get them laid") and others kinda-sorta make sense ("mobile phone operators deliberately design their plans to be confusing to trick consumers into selecting a sub-optimal one"). It made for entertaining reading. He's always had incentive to make outrageous statements and get noticed; every blog post is trying to shill one of his books or startups.

Then a couple of years ago he made some blog posts where Jezebel caught wind and took the outlandish claims seriously, made some articles about him and internet dogpiled on him. He got mad, and made accounts on sites that were talking about him (e.g. Metafilter) to defend himself without revealing who he really was. He also coined the word "outragists" to describe his attackers as people who deliberately went looking to generate public outrage for profit. For a while he had the following disclaimer at the top of his blog:

quote:

Warning: This blog is written for a rational audience that likes to have fun wrestling with unique or controversial points of view. It is written in a style that can easily be confused as advocacy for one sort of unpleasantness or another. It is not intended to change anyone’s beliefs or actions. If you quote from this post or link to it, which you are welcome to do, please take responsibility for whatever happens if you mismatch the audience and the content.
(Which is kinda bullshit; he was clearly trying to convince people, and he doesn't label his outlandish ideas as hypothetical thought experiments. And if he's such a good writer, why can't he write in a style that isn't easily confused for advocacy?)

So he's always been one to come up with a deliberately wacky idea and defend it, and the election has just given him a lot more fodder. I think he probably believes a good chunk of what he's writing... but historically it's always been a bit tongue-and-cheek so there's probably a good dose of straight-up trolling in there too.

Recently he really appears to have gone off the rails, and it's now it's even muddier to see where the closely-held opinion stops and the trolling begins.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
We already have people who professionally try to generate outrage for profit

Has this guy even been near a tabloid?

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

Kopijeger posted:


"Bad news, Knudsen! Nobody is making GBS threads anymore, so the sewer business is finito! We are all up on the street!"
"What am I supposed to do now, then?"
"Regrettably, you have to work on your art."
"Why isn't that man useful to society, mother?"
"Louder, Markus."
"WHY ISNT.."

I don't think I get it

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
"Being useful to society" is a garbage metric for judging people's worth and maybe it's better for everyone to live in a poo poo-free society even if it means obsoleting an entire field of "useful" people.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

Sarcastr0 posted:

Does anyone have the gumption to dig up some from the end of Clinton-Dole? You know, the one where the GOP quietly let everyone know it was over in October?

Taciturn Tactician posted:

The Best Editorial Cartoons of the Year series of books goes back to at least 1972, so if you tracked one of those down you'd at least get some

I picked up a cheap copy of the 1996 volume, but it turns out they're published during the same year, so a 1997 edition seems like it'll have what you want. There's only one Dole cartoon out of the whole bunch:



You remember when Colin Powell ran for President, right? Well, people hoped he would, but it turned out to be a book tour. But that didn't stop everyone from weighing in!




And Ross Perot was running, again.



And Pat Robertson... wasn't running that year, but his Christian Coalition was at the height of its political power.



Henry Foster was Clinton's appointee as Surgeon General in 1995; his bid ended when he was asked how many abortions he had performed, and he revised his answer from "a few" to "about 39."

A few other odds and ends... Republicans were talking about cutting funding for PBS again:



There was this information superhighway thing:



Some gizmo:


Everything old is new again:



And a few thread favorites to cap it off:

FronzelNeekburm fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Oct 27, 2016

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

A Gorrell with real effort put into it? :wow:

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Kopijeger posted:


"Bad news, Knudsen! Nobody is making GBS threads anymore, so the sewer business is finito! We are all up on the street!"
"What am I supposed to do now, then?"
"Regrettably, you have to work on your art."
"Why isn't that man useful to society, mother?"
"Louder, Markus."
"WHY ISNT.."

I especially appreciate the mini-joke of a sewer-worker calling it "up on the street."

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

FronzelNeekburm posted:

Everything old is new again:



Yeah, only need to replace some names and they could be this year's cartoon. Or the last year's. Or the year before, and so on.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Trapezium Dave posted:

It's not just Leak, there has been push against Section 18C and the Human Rights Commission in general from the right for a while now, especially from News Corp. papers. For every one of these Leak cartoons in the Australian there has been at least one editorial or opinion piece along with half a dozen letters to the editor.

An important impetus is that a non-journalist and convicted racist Andrew Bolt fell foul of 18D and Leak will probably be saved by 18D; the noise about 18C is designed to make 18D redundant, its your classic old white man racism exemplified by our terrible Attorney-General in the words "we have the right to be bigots", which basically shot down the Governments attempts to have it legislated away. Hence more hysterical Leak cartoons and News Corps editorials etc etc.

Enophos
Feb 29, 2008

As a jew I think it is hilarious that the jewish caricature he used to intentionally lampoon a racist caricature is way more respectful and reserved than the very first stuff that comes up in Google. Where's the blood from the babies I sacrifice, where's the gold I lust for, where's my hunched back?

Good cartoon, I like Marty Two Bulls' work.

Enophos fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Oct 27, 2016

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
It's based on this ad from a few years back:

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

"Being useful to society" is a garbage metric for judging people's worth and maybe it's better for everyone to live in a poo poo-free society even if it means obsoleting an entire field of "useful" people.

Also, it is no longer an option for him to do work considered "useful to society", yet they still blame him for not doing so. And his art is appreciated enough to earn him that big pile of money, but that doesn't count because art isn't "useful to society" in the minds of such people.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

Tom Guycot posted:

Hahaha, this reminds me of and old Allie parody I made a long time ago.


Owns, and not that far from the actual item!

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

D.N. Nation posted:

Owns, and not that far from the actual item!



Of course Latinos don't care about trivial things like "being treated like humans", that would be stupid, and you're not calling Latinos stupid, are you, racist?

Much like me, Latinos care about giving the super-rich even more tax cuts. That's not stupid at all!

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

minato posted:

I think there's a little more nuance there than "he's an idiot" (although recently he's been insufferable). He's basically just a troll, and you can't really take anything he says at face-value.

For many years his posts were typically about some outlandish claim couched in a tongue-in-cheek style where he'd attempt to convince the reader that it made sense. In some cases it's clearly nonsense ("contain ISIS by literally building a wall around them", "To defeat ISIS we need to get them laid") and others kinda-sorta make sense ("mobile phone operators deliberately design their plans to be confusing to trick consumers into selecting a sub-optimal one"). It made for entertaining reading. He's always had incentive to make outrageous statements and get noticed; every blog post is trying to shill one of his books or startups.

Then a couple of years ago he made some blog posts where Jezebel caught wind and took the outlandish claims seriously, made some articles about him and internet dogpiled on him. He got mad, and made accounts on sites that were talking about him (e.g. Metafilter) to defend himself without revealing who he really was. He also coined the word "outragists" to describe his attackers as people who deliberately went looking to generate public outrage for profit. For a while he had the following disclaimer at the top of his blog:

(Which is kinda bullshit; he was clearly trying to convince people, and he doesn't label his outlandish ideas as hypothetical thought experiments. And if he's such a good writer, why can't he write in a style that isn't easily confused for advocacy?)

So he's always been one to come up with a deliberately wacky idea and defend it, and the election has just given him a lot more fodder. I think he probably believes a good chunk of what he's writing... but historically it's always been a bit tongue-and-cheek so there's probably a good dose of straight-up trolling in there too.

Recently he really appears to have gone off the rails, and it's now it's even muddier to see where the closely-held opinion stops and the trolling begins.

I've never seen anyone complain about "outrage culture" that wasn't a huge baby bitch that poops their pants and gets outraged all the time.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

minato posted:

it's always been a bit tongue-and-cheek

You're the second person I've seen do this in as many days.

It's "tongue in cheek" unless there's some weird alternative I've never heard of.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
Good stuff: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/10/pepe-the-anti-suffrage-frog/505406/



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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Is the final rung in that last one "Presidency"? It's hard to see but that's what it looks like. How prescient, given the current election.

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