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MickRaider
Aug 27, 2004

Now I smell like lemonade!
Looks more to me like Z ribbing caused by helical coupler misalignment

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Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

TasogareNoKagi posted:

For example, picking a 0.5mm layer height for a machine that has 0.2mm/step Z resolution will produce alternating layers of 0.4, 0.6, 0.4, 0.6, etc.

Which means it's overextruding/underextruding on alternating layers.

IAmKale
Jun 7, 2007

やらないか

Fun Shoe
Someone recommended a 3D printing modeling software a couple of months back but I can't for the life of me remember the name. I just remember that it was relatively affordable (around $60?) and had enough functionality for someone getting started with 3D printing. I don't remember much more than that, and Google hasn't been of much help. Does that ring a bell with anyone?

Regardless, what are some affordable 3D modeling solutions that won't handicap me once I get beyond basic models?

insta
Jan 28, 2009
Was it Hexagon?

IAmKale
Jun 7, 2007

やらないか

Fun Shoe

insta posted:

Was it Hexagon?
I inadvertently stumbled on the answer to my question right after posting it - I was thinking of Cubify Invent.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Karthe posted:

Someone recommended a 3D printing modeling software a couple of months back but I can't for the life of me remember the name. I just remember that it was relatively affordable (around $60?) and had enough functionality for someone getting started with 3D printing. I don't remember much more than that, and Google hasn't been of much help. Does that ring a bell with anyone?

Regardless, what are some affordable 3D modeling solutions that won't handicap me once I get beyond basic models?

SketchUp is basic, but free.
Autodesk Inventer is advanced, free for start-ups and makers, but has a steep learning curve.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
Tinkercad works as sort of a next step up from Sketchup imo. Exports stl for one thing :v:

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

Mister Sinewave posted:

Tinkercad works as sort of a next step up from Sketchup imo. Exports stl for one thing :v:

There's a plugin for sketchup for stl

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
Well this is neat: http://phys.org/news/2015-05-ge-additive.html

insta
Jan 28, 2009

Spookydonut posted:

There's a plugin for sketchup for stl

This really just means that sketchup can spread its cancer outside of its own format. Seriously, the files it makes are abysmal.

Dielectric
May 3, 2010
I've been using 123d more and more. It's like Sketchup with some of the Sketchup Pro features enabled. It took a while to get into the weirdly minimalistic interface but watching a few videos made it click. Exports STL which I then stuff into Cura. That's my "Easy Mode" toolchain.

"Nightmare Mode" is FreeCAD -> Slic3r. I like parametric modeling but FreeCAD is such a bugger when I haven't used it in a while. I also like fooling with the infill patterns in Slic3r. Cubify Design looks like a useable version of FreeCAD from watching their demo video. Probably worth the $200 if it's not a crashy heap.

Dielectric fucked around with this message at 22:56 on May 14, 2015

Dielectric
May 3, 2010

insta posted:

This really just means that sketchup can spread its cancer outside of its own format. Seriously, the files it makes are abysmal.

I've found it very easy to make non-manifold objects in Sketchup. That means a trip through Netfabb in a lot of cases. So I don't use Sketchup any more.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Spookydonut posted:

There's a plugin for sketchup for stl


insta posted:

This really just means that sketchup can spread its cancer outside of its own format. Seriously, the files it makes are abysmal.


Yeah STL exports from the plugin are mostly functional but I found I needed to send the export through netfabb to fix and correct as part of the workflow to ensure non-hosed models.

I still like sketchup's interface because I never got into serious 3D modeling and everything I need to make is geometrically pretty simple anyway but I've moved on to Tinkercad now to scratch that itch.

IndianaZoidberg
Aug 21, 2011

My name isnt slick, its Zoidberg. JOHN F***ING ZOIDBERG!

ImplicitAssembler posted:

SketchUp is basic, but free.
Autodesk Inventer is advanced, free for start-ups and makers, but has a steep learning curve.

I have been using Inventor for the last 6 months or so and while I am no expert, I picked it up quite fast. Lynda.com has some nice tutorials for Inventor that helped me a ton...and my previous AutoCAD experience.

I also got Inventor by just lying to AutoDesk that I was a student.

IndianaZoidberg fucked around with this message at 00:26 on May 15, 2015

Rubiks Pubes
Dec 5, 2003

I wanted to be a neo deconstructivist, but Mom wouldn't let me.
Well I finally got around to getting the right thermistor for my heated bed and also upgraded to an ATX power supply. Now I am running in to the ABS not wanting to stick to my print bed. I just tried an Elmer's Glue Stick which may help. I am printing on to the heated bed with painters tape over it (same thing I've used for PLA with no problems). Any suggestions?

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 43 hours!

IndianaZoidberg posted:

I have been using Inventor for the last 6 months or so and while I am no expert, I picked it up quite fast. Lynda.com has some nice tutorials for Inventor that helped me a ton...and my previous AutoCAD experience.

I also got Inventor by just lying to AutoDesk that I was a student.

This, except for Solidworks instead of Autodesk's stuff, right down to the Lynda.com tutorial videos and exercise files (which is all a hell of a lot cheaper than taking the certification classes for what I'm doing).

Dielectric
May 3, 2010

Rubiks Pubes posted:

Well I finally got around to getting the right thermistor for my heated bed and also upgraded to an ATX power supply. Now I am running in to the ABS not wanting to stick to my print bed. I just tried an Elmer's Glue Stick which may help. I am printing on to the heated bed with painters tape over it (same thing I've used for PLA with no problems). Any suggestions?

I use the acetone/ABS slurry. Some acetone and scrap filament in a bottle, mixed to nearly opaque (like skim milk because I used white ABS). Then I dip a paper towel in and wipe down the build area. Smelly, as expected.

I mostly print small things so I've got half of my bed primed with slurry and the other half with glue stick for PLA. I've got PET film over the whole thing, which Ninjaflex sticks to with nothing else on it. Never tried painter's tape, as the other stuff worked fine for my porpoises.

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
I could start recommending build surface ninja trickery but... PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI.

insta
Jan 28, 2009

deimos posted:

I could start recommending build surface ninja trickery but... PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI PEI.

alright smart guy how do I make nylon stick

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Please don't hang me up too much for asking this.

I want to get a personal printer for some projects with my daughter. Thing is, I won't be able to buy anything until I move into a new house with a proper shop space. Plus it would help for my daughter to be a bit older to appreciate it too.

Anyway, the meat of my question is(your best guess), what can my daughter and I expect in this tech ~5 years from now?

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

Shaocaholica posted:

Please don't hang me up too much for asking this.

I want to get a personal printer for some projects with my daughter. Thing is, I won't be able to buy anything until I move into a new house with a proper shop space. Plus it would help for my daughter to be a bit older to appreciate it too.

Anyway, the meat of my question is(your best guess), what can my daughter and I expect in this tech ~5 years from now?

Probably cheaper and a lot less DIY aspect to it, you'd just buy a unit from your local hobby store and it'll work out of the box. Hopefully filament will still be the way it is now (interchangable and cheap).

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!

insta posted:

alright smart guy how do I make nylon stick

PVA on PEI :laugh:

But honestly if you're gonna print nylon use garolite.

e: (But he said ABS)

deimos fucked around with this message at 04:49 on May 17, 2015

insta
Jan 28, 2009

deimos posted:

PVA on PEI :laugh:

But honestly if you're gonna print nylon use garolite.

e: (But he said ABS)

I'm actually setting up an M2 build specifically for Nylon. A 1/4" mic6 aluminum sheet with 1/8" garolite LE epoxied to it, with an enclosure and E3Dv6 hotend.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 43 hours!
Printed these this weekend:

Obligatory nerd dragon statue



And the 3D Benchy thing in Woodlay. It floats!



Right now printing a tool holder to mount on the side of the printer instead of having a pile of loose stuff laying around on the work table.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 43 hours!
Hate to double-post, but figured these would be worth sharing (assuming they haven't already been posted here).

There's a web-app that will take any image you upload and attempt to convert it into a Lithophane STL file here:

http://3dp.rocks/lithophane/

And another app that does similar stuff, but takes a different approach by extruding darker colors and leaving light colors as the base layer:

https://www.mixeelabs.com/mixeepopper

They seem to have a little trouble in Chrome when you crank up the detail settings or make a large enough object when re-scaling, but I'm going to attempt a T-glase Lithophane some time this weekend and see how it works out.

IndianaZoidberg
Aug 21, 2011

My name isnt slick, its Zoidberg. JOHN F***ING ZOIDBERG!

IndianaZoidberg posted:

I have been using Inventor for the last 6 months or so and while I am no expert, I picked it up quite fast. Lynda.com has some nice tutorials for Inventor that helped me a ton...and my previous AutoCAD experience.

I also got Inventor by just lying to AutoDesk that I was a student.

Since we where talking about CAD, I thought I would add this:

It just came to my mind that the 2016 version of Inventor would be out so I did some digging on the AutoDesk website and I was able to upgrade to 2016 on my student license too. It was kind of a pain in the rear end to find the download for it since AutoDesk's user account page really needs some usability upgrades, but its nice that I was able to get 2016.

Greatest Living Man
Jul 22, 2005

ask President Obama
I'm part of a research lab that's interested in functionalizing 3D printer filaments. Right now we're rolling with a single extruder Printrbot LC v1 that I've heavily modified. It gets pretty good prints at this point, but we're looking to step up to a machine with multiple extruders. Dual would be fine, but a triple extruder setup would be ideal. No real price limit. I'm in love with the Makergear M2 but it doesn't really have outright support for two extruders.

Has anyone had any experience with these guys? http://www.reprapmall.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=52

insta
Jan 28, 2009

Greatest Living Man posted:

I'm part of a research lab that's interested in functionalizing 3D printer filaments. Right now we're rolling with a single extruder Printrbot LC v1 that I've heavily modified. It gets pretty good prints at this point, but we're looking to step up to a machine with multiple extruders. Dual would be fine, but a triple extruder setup would be ideal. No real price limit. I'm in love with the Makergear M2 but it doesn't really have outright support for two extruders.

Has anyone had any experience with these guys? http://www.reprapmall.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=52

The M2 has a dual extruder setup here: http://www.makergear.com/products/m2-upgrades It's an officially supported upgrade from the manufacturer. Its also awesome, the hotends are the easiest ones I've used. They're designed to be easily replaced and worked on, almost never clog, and clear easily if they do clog.

Greatest Living Man
Jul 22, 2005

ask President Obama

insta posted:

The M2 has a dual extruder setup here: http://www.makergear.com/products/m2-upgrades It's an officially supported upgrade from the manufacturer. Its also awesome, the hotends are the easiest ones I've used. They're designed to be easily replaced and worked on, almost never clog, and clear easily if they do clog.

Looks like it's grayed out.

insta
Jan 28, 2009

Greatest Living Man posted:

Looks like it's grayed out.

Bah, it wasn't this morning.

Give it a day or two they'll be back in stock. Or email karen@makergear.com and ask about them. They're a smallish shop and email > webstore.

Greatest Living Man
Jul 22, 2005

ask President Obama

insta posted:

Bah, it wasn't this morning.

Give it a day or two they'll be back in stock. Or email karen@makergear.com and ask about them. They're a smallish shop and email > webstore.

I think we'll go with the M2 then, as long as the extruder upgrade isn't a huge pain. It seems to be a universally well-liked FDM printer.

insta
Jan 28, 2009

Greatest Living Man posted:

I think we'll go with the M2 then, as long as the extruder upgrade isn't a huge pain. It seems to be a universally well-liked FDM printer.

You won't regret it. I never got a straight answer from MG, but if you have the budget, ask them if they'll ship it with the dual extruders pre-installed.

Greatest Living Man
Jul 22, 2005

ask President Obama
I'm about to send an e-mail about the M2. Does it particularly matter that this iteration is a few years old? I just don't want to buy one and have the shiny new M3 ship out in a few months.

insta
Jan 28, 2009
They're still supporting and improving it. It has a lot of life left.

Coldstone Cream-my-pants
Jun 21, 2007
Anyone heard of this GEEETech i3 pro dual-extruder 3D printer kit? It's $310, boasting these stats:

200mm x 200mm x 180mm build volume
0.5mm nozzle diameter
0.1-0.5mm layer resolution
Dual extruder (i.e. print a part in 2 colors, with dissolvable support material, or 2 parts in separate colors)
Heated build plate can print ABS or PLA
LCD screen and SD card slot allows you to print without a computer

It seems awful cheap, so it must be a shitbox right? I only ask because my university just offered a 2-day course for $500 bucks where you build one of these. Pretty cool idea either way, and open to the general public too. It sold out quickly.

insta
Jan 28, 2009
Ever see that Simpsons clip where Homer manages to catch 4 different types of breakfast on fire, ending with cornflakes? That's Geetech.

It will be a rather expensive education for "don't buy Geetech".

Coldstone Cream-my-pants
Jun 21, 2007
That's what I was thinking it'd be. I get that they have to price the class low enough to get interest, but it's kind of lovely that supposed experts in the field are sticking 80 people with a lovely printer.

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

The Royal Scrub posted:

That's what I was thinking it'd be. I get that they have to price the class low enough to get interest, but it's kind of lovely that supposed experts in the field are sticking 80 people with a lovely printer.

A local science center here did an evening class where we assembled one of these printers.

It went about as well as you would expect. I got a "working" printer out of the deal, but it's currently in pieces as I rebuild it into a h-bot using an extruded aluminum fame.

Of course, it's been in pieces for 6 months, because the printed parts I ordered to rebuild it are all out of spec, and I need to get down to my makerspace and print replacement parts, but still.

Oh, also, it came with a Geeetech printrboard clone, which crapped out.

MickRaider
Aug 27, 2004

Now I smell like lemonade!
Go for the Printrbot play instead

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nolen
Apr 4, 2004

butts.

n0tqu1tesane posted:

A local science center here did an evening class where we assembled one of these printers.

It went about as well as you would expect. I got a "working" printer out of the deal, but it's currently in pieces as I rebuild it into a h-bot using an extruded aluminum fame.

Of course, it's been in pieces for 6 months, because the printed parts I ordered to rebuild it are all out of spec, and I need to get down to my makerspace and print replacement parts, but still.

Oh, also, it came with a Geeetech printrboard clone, which crapped out.

Sup "rebuilding a One/TwoUp into the 3uP" buddy. I've been meaning to print out the remaining parts on my Ultimaker 2 but it's having weird extrusion problems and I just can't be arsed to fiddle with it right now.

Although mine came with a RAMPS board, which was a huge surprise.

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