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RocketSurgeon posted:Just finished season 2 of TNG and so far it has been kind of dull. After about episode 10 it started to pick up i think. Why was dr crusher gone from season 2? I kinda liked the replacement doctor. I, too, prefer Dr P to Dr C.
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Admiralty Flag posted:It's Ellen Cleghorn playing Guinan. I'm sort of struck by how bad the skit was. Not just bad writing, but subpar work from all the cast except Tim Meadows, Cleghorn, Sweeney, (can't believe I'm going to say this) Rob Schneider, and Al Franken (who I think was the Ferengi). Farley's Riker walk was funny (always walk as though you have to batter a door down with the side of your forehead!) but he big time flubbed at least one cue/line. Oh man I forgot how bad a cast member Melanie Hutzel was. I really miss Phil Hartman.
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Automatic Slim posted:I really miss Phil Hartman. Oh yeah, still feeling that one. Also, I'd be curious to see how he'd be milkshake ducked in our hellish timeline
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RocketSurgeon posted:Why was dr crusher gone from season 2? I kinda liked the replacement doctor. Maurice Hurley, head (?) writer, "didn't like her acting" or alternatively "was an utter shitbag" and Gates left/was fired. Hurley left the show for season 3 so she was brought back.
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Yeah either that or Gene slapped her rear end every time she walked by but eh who knows.
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Automatic Slim posted:TOS Epiphany Part 1 One of the reasons for this is that both Gene Roddenberry and Gene Coon were in WWII (although Gene Coon served stateside, but also was in the Korean War), and felt that most diplomats or administrators gave zero fucks about soldiers so long as it furthered their purpose.
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Bogus Adventure posted:One of the reasons for this is that both Gene Roddenberry and Gene Coon were in WWII (although Gene Coon served stateside, but also was in the Korean War), and felt that most diplomats or administrators gave zero fucks about soldiers so long as it furthered their purpose. ah, the old 'being objectively correct' thing. that roddenberry, such a character.
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I just remembered that episode of DS9 where the gene modded girl pretended to have locked in syndrome so she wouldnt have to date Bashir anymore 
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staying up all night watching babylon 5 do not need sleep to function weekend never need end episode 12 🌌 a narn ship approaches. the tal quith has a "very perishable" shipment for g'kar but there is a hold up in the docking bay 🌌 susan asks the harbourmaster to sort it. "you're busting my balls man [paraphrased]" they find some space 🌌 i'm going to start calling susan "ivanova" for consistency. dr. ben is still dr. ben 🌌 something is wrong. a ship has been launched and will collide with the narn. the tal quith ignores ivanova's instructions and fucks everything up for everyone 🌌 there is massive damage and two people are trapped. 🌌 DAWN OF THE THIRD AGE THE BAD LUIETENANT PORT OF CALL: NEW ORLEANS 🌌 BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY guest starring neeoma, orin and senator hidoshi who we have met before (he is a star trek admiral analogue) 🌌 the trapped crewman are retrieved. one of them did not make it- the harbourmaster's brother 🌌 g'kar is praying. na'toth arrives and tells him what has occurred. the jaqion neth was destroyed 🌌 this is a bad thing and g'kar takes it hard 🌌 there is a meeting with the station top brass and g'kar. connelly is some kind of station high up and she defends the dockers as being overworked 🌌 g'kar seems keen to leave i guess this is an important time in his religious practice 🌌 equipment failure is the cause. shoddy work from a low bid contractor. the station is strapped for cash 🌌 senator hidoshi makes a call on gold channel. 🌌 g'kar desperately seeks a jaqion neth. londo turns up and gives him some poo poo. na'thoth arrives and informs g'kar there is no way to procure one in time... but londo has one 🌌 londo: :byewhores: 🌌 hidoshi tells sinclair and garibaldi they are not getting poo poo by way of a budget increase. they receive word that the dock workers are throwing an illegal strike 🌌 space trucks are backing up while the union is having a rally. connelly tries to keep order and garibaldi convinces her to meet sinclair 🌌 they have it out. nothing is resolved and the situation is escalating 🌌 g'kar is in londo's flat when he gets home. he is currently abstaining from booze during the holy time. he is after londo's jaqion neth, which is a plant 🌌 londo asks an extrortianate price 🌌 sinclair tries to play down the worker troubles but hidoshi is dispatching a negotiator (zento) 🌌 he threatens to invoke the "rush act" which is some kind of fashy union busting thing that may involve troops. sinclair is aghast 🌌 zento arrives, he seems like a prick 🌌 g'kar tries to buy the plant. londo says he changed his mind. it is revenge for his nephew (callback). g'kar is pissed 🌌 he and na'toth chat. the naan are not a monoculture and have different religions. na'toth is an agnostic at best. there is one other way to get the plant but g'kar hates it 🌌 zento and the union meet. it does not go well. zento threatens the rush act. sinclair tries to calm things down and suggests they meet again tomorrow 🌌 sinclair pulls an all nighter. the dock workers double down and xento will not be calmed. g'kar calls him up because he does not have enough poo poo to deal with right now 🌌 sinclair goes to ask londo to ffs unburden him of one problem at least. he has some nice pajamas on but remains unmoved. g'kar gives na'toth a secretive instruction 🌌 union negotiations resume and it does not go well. the rush act is to be invoked 🌌 g'kar has stolen one of londo's gods. a sleep deprived sinclair is being harried by both them and a journalist regarding the union dispute. he finally cracks and tells everybody to gtfo 🌌 hidoshi calls up & informs sinclair that the rush act is invoked. it seems like he ultimately did not want this to happen but has been outvoted 🌌 sinclair looks for a loophole 🌌 security and the union have a scrap. sinclair has a plan 🌌 sinclair uses the ambiguous phrasing of the BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY part of the rush act to grant the unions demands by taking funds out of the military budget 🌌 harmony is restored and the dock reopens. zento is pissed, sinclair gives not a care 🌌 sinclair thinks he can finally get some sleep but now he has to go stop londo and g'kar from murdering each other 🌌 sinclair uses the fact that jaqion neth can also be used as space weed to requisition the plant and give it to g'kar. londo is compensated. 🌌 it is technically too late to perform the ritual (it has to occur in the light that first touches a certain mountain on the holy day) but sinclair gives g'kar a lesson in general relativity and all is good 🌌 sinclair almost gets to bed but hidoshi calls up and tells him (admiringly) that he got away with it this time but zento is pissed and has powerful friends 🌌 g'kar does his ritual with some other narn so the earth government are space libertarians? hard to get a read on sweet geek swag posted:Santiago's isn't anti-alien so much as he uses some of the nationalist rhetoric because anti-alien sentiment is running so high. He also had to give some rather important positions in his administration to anti-alien people, including the vice presidency. Which means that the current Earth gov policy towards aliens can probably best be described as 'schizophrenic.' aha. hidoshi kinda gets fleshed out as not just an obstructionist prick which probably ties into sweet geek swag's comment. interesting info about the narn's various faiths & zento may return as an antagonist at some point later on BABYLON 5
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⚛ ivanova is awoken by her alarm/the computer. she is not a morning person ⚛ she drags herself to work. sinclair unwittingly acts like an huge prick by being incredibly chipper ⚛ they pick up a distress call. a fighter is escorting a transport and they have been hit by raiders ⚛ fighter dude bites it. maybe we will learn more on these raiders? so far they are just a faceless scourge ⚛ DAWN OF THE THIRD AGE DREAM GIVING FORM WE ARE IN SPAAAAAAACE ⚛ episode title is signs and portents. ominous ⚛ a well dressed man arrives at the station. his passport has not been updated for a while as he has been exploring the outer rim.... or so he claims ⚛ the management are having a meeting. supplies to the raiders have been cut off but attacks are on the increase ⚛ somehow the raiders are escaping to the jump gates at twice the speed that should be possible "at maximum burn." the gang try to be ready ⚛ sinclair and garibaldi hang back and have a private convo. sinclair confides in garibaldi as to the weird poo poo that went down at the battle of the line ⚛ he can dredge up no clearer memories. he tasks garibaldi with investigating the situation and to keep it off the books. of course garibaldi is down ⚛ londo (:woot:) meets with a business guy (not the man from earlier) and purchases THE EYE an ancient piece of jewellery owned by the first centauri emperor ⚛ londo asks how the guy managed to find it. "ehhhh... you don't wanna know." my guess would be space raiders but let us see ⚛ the well dressed man witnesses this exchange. undercover space cop? ⚛ g'kar can only be described as sashaying down the corridor when he spots londo. ⚛ they wait at the space lift and some poor dude is caught in the middle of their bitchy sniping at each other. coming across super ambassadorial in front of the plebs here guys ⚛ we get reminded that the centauri strip mined the narn homeworld and things get heated. the other guy fixes a neutral expression and books it at the first opportunity. ⚛ sinclair is wrapping up and reminds us that delenn was there at the line. how deep does this thing go? ⚛ the well dressed man is called morden and he talking with g'kar. he has been approved by the narn council to ask him "what do you want? really really want?" ⚛ g'kar initially dismisses him but then calls him back and says that (if it were not to be too much trouble) he would like to completely genocide the centauri and erase them from living memory that would be absolutely tip top. ⚛ "and then what?" g'kar has not really thought past this point. morden thanks for his time and exeunts. g'kar is sceptical much will come of all this ⚛ londo greets the centauri dignitaries lord kiro and ladeera at the space port. ladira is "seer and prophetess" of kiro's house which seems to be a standard thing. ⚛ she seems troubled which is troubling what with her all being able to see the future and poo poo. could these be signs and portents? ⚛ she sees DEATH FIRE PAIN DEATH BABYLON WILL FALL. she faints ⚛ ladira goes to recuperate accompanied by two underlings. interesting that they do not have the awesome centauri hair ⚛ kiro says that she has been wrong before and he & londo share a laugh over her prediction that he would be killed by a shadow which makes me immediately suspect kiro is going to be killed by a shadow ⚛ kiro wants to gaze on THE EYE for while as he is only transporting it. it sounds like his family used to be the top dogs but now the emperor is of a different bloodline ⚛ the go to take a look. they are tailed by some mook ⚛ morden is with lerenn doing the same "whaddya want?" routine. she is arranging some decorative glassware and is wise to him having already spoken to g'kar ⚛ lerenn has a psychic flash which causes a triangle to appear on her forehead. she disguises it and has a vision of mordon AS A SHADOW. she sends him away ⚛ the forehead triangle fades as morden leaves. lerenn: "they're here!"  ⚛ londo and kiro regard the eye. there is political trouble on the homeworld and the emperor has become a recluse ⚛ kiro floats the idea of claiming the eye for himself and deposing the unpopular emperor ⚛ londo suggests things like political support and a powerbase and so on might also be required to actually hold the throne, weilding an antique in an aggressive fashion is more as like to just get you killed ⚛ kiro thinks better of it and goes to bed. ⚛ ladeera is haunted by more signs and portents ⚛ a ship attacked by raiders which seemingly come out of nowhere. the go for the jump gate and send out a mayday ⚛ babylon five sends out delta wing led by ivanova to assist. ⚛ IT IS A FEINT! the mook who was tailing londo earlier will take out babylon 5 while the fleet is away. he is aligned with the raiders ⚛ a weird rear end looking ship arrives. it is kosh, who was away. morden spots him and hides while some very dramatic music plays. this means something ⚛ delta wing arrive and prepare for battle ⚛ kiro prepares to depart. he will have protection as soon as he makes it to the gate ⚛ londo heads down to give him THE EYE. morden follows him and does the whole "what do you want?" bit. ⚛ londo tries to get rid of him but morden is not permitted to leave until he has an answer. ⚛ he eventually replies that he wants the centauri to rule a great empire like they did back in the good old days ⚛ delta wing is almost in position. sinclair is suddenly suspicious that the attack is happening uncharacteristically far away ⚛ the mook from earlier intercepts the centauri who are heading for the dock. he blasts away the unnamed characters and demands THE EYE ⚛ londo, kiro and ladira are taken hostage ⚛ sinclair receives the manifest for the ship nominally being attacked by raiders. it has nothing but worthless crap! sinclair twigs and recalls delta wing ⚛ traffic out is light so he figures the centauri ship (which has yet to depart) is what the diversion was to divert them from. he heads down ⚛ and runs right into the centauri. kiro is taken more explicitly hostage and the mook demands safe passage. sinclair consents ⚛ the plan is to blow out the engines once they get clear. ladira starts freaking out that "the shadows are coming for him" ⚛ garibaldi and some others in fighters move to surround the ship. apparently bigger ships can make their own jump points but a small one like this will be unable to escape ⚛ i recall that the raiders are somehow travelling faster than they should be able to which i fear sinclair has overlooked ⚛ indeed this is the case. the raiders have a big ol' ship which looks comparable in size to the station (hard to judge). it releases some smaller fighters and we have space pew pews ⚛ the station goes into defence mode. the civillians head for the air raid shelters while ladira prophesises doom again. you are really offering all problems and no solutions here dude ⚛ morden runs into kosh again. kosh tells him to gtfo the station "they are not for you." morden growls in a weird way which suggests he is more than he seems this is all very intriguing ⚛ kiro's hijakked ship gets THE EYE to the raider mother ship. sinclair recalibrates babylon 5's big rear end guns for long range attack ⚛ ivanova returns and they box in and destroy the raider's smaller fighters. the big ship makes a jump gate ⚛ ivanova thirsts for raider death but sinclair tells her not to risk it and they escape ⚛ garibaldi and sinclair debrief. interesting fact: the station has repair bots ⚛ kosh's encounter suit was damaged but he is not saying how. they send him supplies to fix it up ⚛ they take a minute to mourn for a red shirt that got killed in the battle. classy touch ⚛ the raiders are hurt, but sinclair suspects they will return. londo and ladeera arrive ⚛ sinclair asks after THE EYE. ladira has a vision in a cup of coffee ⚛ kiro and the raiders were in it together! i did not see that coming. he gave them them the mothership and funding ⚛ the raiders turn on him, throw him in the brig and hope to ransom THE EYE to buy more raiding poo poo ⚛ out of nowhere a giant space shadow creature appears and blows them all away. ⚛ lol but seriously i posted:i did not see that coming ⚛ she prepares to depart. londo suspects he is ruined after losing THE EYE but seems to be taking it well ⚛ morden turns up with THE EYE. he calls it a gift from "friends you don't know you have" ⚛ he is clearly in league with/is the shadow creature londo do not get into bed with this creep do not do it man ⚛ morden does the batman ghost ⚛ sinclair and garibaldi do a wrap up. garibaldi has something on the battle of the line weirdness ⚛ sinclair was not first (nor even like the fith) choice to run the station. he knew that but what he did not know was that he was approved by the nimbari ⚛ ladeera informs sinclair that the station is still doomed and shows him a vision. however, the future is not fixed and hope springs eternal you may be able to tell from my 900 bullet points that much occurs in this episode. we have space shadow creatures and (from before) space light creatures so there is a whole cosmic dark vs. light thing going on. the vorlons clearly do not care for morden who is at the least aligned with the shadow creatures but whether that means they have anything to do with the (according to the narn) totally aloof light creatures is unclear. i think we can take it from lerenn's reaction that she is also against the shadow creatures. how this all ties together with their interest with sinclaire is unclear but recall that the guy who went super telekinetic told him they would meet in a million years. sinclaire is the chosen one to do battle with the literal forces of darkness? possible but i expect further wrinkles they are pretty good at catching me off gaurd. also highly concerned for londo i do not believe this will end well for him. amazing how worried am for a fictional space imperialist but this is BABYLON 5
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He's experiencing it!!! Babylon 5!!!!
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Gatts posted:I have a feeling Keiko would be okay with Miles straying cause she can't be bothered with him. Like, he wants to have a normal life, but she just wants the military benefits with none of the actual relationship and loving marriage and that's part of the reason why she spent practically the whole series away from him. miles and keiko were set up with each other by coworkers because that kept them both out of everyone else’s hair onboard The Star Ship Entrprise The Next Generation™️©️ because eveyone else on that ship was Perfect In Every Way®️™️©️ while Miles and Keiko were real life flawed individuals with full complex HUU MON personalities that got on everyone’s nerves (and honestly they had a realistic, flawed, yet functional marriage) they eventually left for a quiet life on a remote outpost space station so they could raise their kids away from their former weirdo unmarried childless perfect rock star career crew, only it didn’t work out that way because as it turns out O’Brien Must Suffer™️©️®️
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imagine being a decorated war veteran and a brilliant transporter engineer who was hand selected for the flagship of the fleet (they want the best of the best!) and it turns out you stand behind a panel pressing buttons all day. all your coworkers are a bunch of pretty boy rikers enthusiastically humping everything that walks and yelling YES SIR for no reason. No one understands why you’re grouchy sometimes and your life is so vanilla now, so clean; you wake up in a cold sweat remembering that spoon head you strangled with a length of t-9 conduit, the life draining out of their reptilian eyes as they struggled, shhhh, sleep now, no fight, shhh, no pain, only dreams now..
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Keiko is your typical over 30 grad student who got top scores across the board, brilliant, knocks down every academic hurdle there is, gets selected for the flag ship of the fleet (they want the beat of the best!) only guess what? no plants on the ship. sure they’re exploring space but they’re not stopping for plants are they. Just a sterile boat, a cruise ship really, and she’s not getting any younger is she ever even going to have kids? how can she even get married? to who, one of these rikers?? yeah they want to settle down with and “old maid” sure oh god oh god i’m trapped i’m trapped on a BOAT OH GOD this ISNT what I WANTED!
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naem posted:Keiko is your typical over 30 grad student who got top scores across the board, brilliant, knocks down every academic hurdle there is, gets selected for the flag ship of the fleet (they want the beat of the best!) only guess what? no plants on the ship. Plus it's the fricking Enterprise so you know there's been like seven times in the last month where they've discovered heretofore unknown sentient plant life and it's always like, "Hey Keiko, we know you're the top botanist around, but Ensign Sonak from Security? He was on the Away Team, and did you know he just happens to have a PhD in exobotany from before he joined Starfleet? Yeah, it's his hobby, and since he's a Starfleet officer, so we thought it would be safer for him to do the initial analysis. I'm sure he'll let you look at his notes, maybe review the paper he's submitting to the Vulcan Science Academy's conference..."
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Hahaha no ensign sonak died on the away mission
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naem posted:imagine being a decorated war veteran and a brilliant transporter engineer who was hand selected for the flagship of the fleet (they want the best of the best!) and it turns out you stand behind a panel pressing buttons all day. Someone break out the O'Brien comic panels.
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You missed the best response to Mr. Morden's question; Vir's. "I want to live just long enough to see them put your head on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations, that some favours come with too high a price. I want to to look up into your lifeless eyes, and wave just like this  "."...Can your associates arrange that for me, Mr Morden?"
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PenisMonkey posted:GODDAMN NEELIX IS SUCH A poo poo I HATE HIM
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Neelix is the greatest creation in fiction because no real person would be him and choose to keep on living. The fact that Neelix survives and thrives in Voyager shows just how far the human imagination can go.   
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Bogus Adventure posted:Neelix is the greatest creation in fiction because no real person would be him and choose to keep on living. The fact that Neelix survives and thrives in Voyager shows just how far the human imagination can go. A reminder that not even Neelix wants himself to live - the episode where he confronts his subconscious after dying and being revived has his subconscious unceremoniously tell him "kill yourself. Nobody'll miss you and we both know you really want to. Do it, you coward."
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Neddy Seagoon posted:A reminder that not even Neelix wants himself to live - the episode where he confronts his subconscious after dying and being revived has his subconscious unceremoniously tell him "kill yourself. Nobody'll miss you and we both know you really want to. Do it, you coward." I wonder if that was a cry for help from the writers. They really thought they had gold with Neelix, I wonder how long it took them to realise they'd created the Scrappy-Doo of Star Trek.
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Every time someone posts picture dumps of Neelix I’m astounded by how unappealing he is. Skin texture like a bad bruise, that combination mohawk-mullet complete with rat tails, weird muttonchop facial hair, pastel clothes like the wallpaper in a dentist’s office. I like to imagine the writer’s room took one look at what the makeup team was up to and decided “gently caress it, let’s not even try to salvage this. Just lean into the grossness.”
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Much like everything else in Voyager, Neelix could have been interesting in the hands of better writers/producers
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Johnny Aztec posted:Much like everything else in Voyager, Neelix was a mistake
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If you watch Caretaker, he's a bit underhanded and the cheerful disposition comes across as a smarmy salesman looking to strike a deal while looking out for number one. Then in the rest of the series the cheerful disposition is played 100% straight.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:If you watch Caretaker, he's a bit underhanded and the cheerful disposition comes across as a smarmy salesman looking to strike a deal while looking out for number one. Put that way, it comes off as a really bad attempt to replicate Quark. Have there been any post-mortems on Neelix (and Voyager in general), what he was supposed to be and how things turned out?
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Johnny Aztec posted:Much like everything else in Voyager, Neelix could have been interesting in the hands of better writers/producers I kind of liked the episode with "My value is my usefulness as a guide and without it I'm nothing." "No, Neelix. You are more than your job." It's too bad about all the other poo poo.
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Bogus Adventure posted:
welp, we hit it. the nadir of the thread
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naem posted:imagine being a decorated war veteran and a brilliant transporter engineer who was hand selected for the flagship of the fleet (they want the best of the best!) and it turns out you stand behind a panel pressing buttons all day. To be fair they do actually address this in DS9 one time when he tells someone he was bored on the Enterprise because everything just worked. I mean you'd think that all the poo poo the Enterprise goes through in the way of alien attacks, space anomolies, Q, and time loops that you'd be interested even if you were the loving janitor but apprently not. Particularly strange when you consider just how often the transporters don't work in order to create tension. Honestly though his whole backstory is a bit of a mess: * His rank changes constantly and makes no sense (if ensigns are junior officers and obrien is a senior NCO, why do ensigns ever take orders from him? Why was he the tactical officer on a ship?) * Bashir states he went to the academy and obrien says he went to engineering school despite presumably just signing up for Starfleet. * Even if we assume he became tactical officer due to being a good soldier (e.g. The security branch of operations) , why was he first seen on the Enterprise flying the ship and later as a transport engineer? I mean I sort of put any errors down to obrien being the only one on the ship permenantly effected by all these time loops and things because drat he's unlucky as poo poo. Edit: Also he's the only character to feature this on their wiki page: "BORN: September 2328, Ireland, Earth DIED: 2371; replaced by future self" Kitchner fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Feb 11, 2019 |
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Fixing stuff on a Starfleet flagship isn't actually gonna be that interesting when repairs consist of "be told board X in Device Y is faulty by the computer's diagnostics, replicate replacement and replace onsite" for about 95% of the Engineering crew. Especially when the CE goes and scores all the weird poo poo for themselves by pulling rank and poking their noses in first instead of letting their staff do it.
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Kitchner posted:Edit: Also he's the only character to feature this on their wiki page: Harry Kim has this: quote:BORN: 2349, South Carolina, Earth
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You missed the best response to Mr. Morden's question; Vir's. That wasn't in that episode
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