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King of Solomon posted:I understand the frustration, but accepting this framing is bullshit. Bloomberg isn't accepting donations, he knows the debate qualification rules. If anything, the donor requirement protected him from having to be on stage with Bernie. Can you imagine how good it would be for Bernie to be able to contrast himself against Mike loving Bloomberg? Tom Steyer is trying to be Bernie's friend and always says "I agree with Bernie," so the contrast doesn't work there. The DNC should be criticized for putting their thumbs on the scale even though they're comically stupid and are doing the worst thing possible for themselves. They're doing what will end up being a beneficial thing for a bad reason
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Wicked Them Beats posted:I just read the politico article and it sounds like the DNC people pushing this are actually looking for a rules reversion in 2024 and think a Bernie nomination would be enough to get the DNC to restore the superdelegates to full power. It looks to me like it's talking about two separate groups with different positions. There's a small group who want the rule change right now, and then there's a larger group who want the rule change but realize that doing it now would be an incredibly dumb idea so they want to push it off for the next cycle. I wouldn't read too much into the contents of the story itself. There was plenty of opposition to reducing superdelegates' power in the first place, so it shouldn't be at all surprising that some superdelegates still want to return to the old rules they supported. The real question is why the political media is suddenly choosing now of all times to run stories on it.
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joepinetree posted:She is precisely the type of social climber that you have to be to go from Rutgers law to Harvard law, and from Harvard Law to the senate. Exactly this, except she didn't go to Harvard Law as a student. Her only basis as a ~serious smart person~ is the Prof job she got while claiming to be Native American. Even as a bankruptcy scholar, she's not some heavyweight. Sorry to harp on this, but I think it's hilarious that the preferred candidate of credentialed morons who think it's important to be Very Smart isn't even that well credentialed, outside of one job she, at best, lucked into.
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Majorian posted:Seems to me like the DNC is asking, nay, begging, to have their offices swamped by furious Bernie supporters. except this time they'll hand out croissants to the protestors, leading to a wave of Croissant Twitter.
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Feb 1, 2020 01:42
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Pizza is the most communist food. It comes evenly divided to be distributed as equally as possible among the people. Not to mention it transcends class; everyone's buying the same $3 slice. The great equalizer.
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Willa Rogers posted:except this time they'll hand out croissants to the protestors, leading to a wave of Croissant Twitter. The things that establishment Dem bootlickers find funny...it's kind of bewildering. (Sam Bee is another one of those things!)
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It would be kind of funny if Bloomberg takes the debate stage and immediately pulls a Steyer, agreeing with Bernie and desperately trying to be his friend. On the other hand, you probably do have to actually cut at least one billionare as an example to the others. Let that happen on camera, while Bernie warns the 1% "It could happen to YOU!"
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Willa Rogers posted:except this time they'll hand out croissants to the protestors, leading to a wave of Croissant Twitter. lol
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Gyges posted:It would be kind of funny if Bloomberg takes the debate stage and immediately pulls a Steyer, agreeing with Bernie and desperately trying to be his friend. On the other hand, you probably do have to actually cut at least one billionare as an example to the others. Let that happen on camera, while Bernie warns the 1% "It could happen to YOU!" I cannot get out of my head that Steyer spent the first few debates talking about getting money out of politics as a billionaire who's only claim to being on the drat stage was using money on a political campaign. He has to be grifting, right? Nobody can be that clueless.
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goethe.cx posted:shutupshutupshutupshutupshutup Actually I think it's pretty nice of Hillary to do fundraising drives like this for Bernie.
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goethe.cx posted:shutupshutupshutupshutupshutup 25% of her supporters voted for McCain over Obama. 25%.
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Do you know what helps me feel better when I feel mad? Giving money to Bernie Sanders.
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Every time Hillary says something about Bernie he goes up in the polls. If she had any self-awareness I'd almost think she was trying to help him.
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What does she mean by "highly indentified with his campaign" mean? That's like word salad idiot corporate speak.
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Majorian posted:25% of her supporters voted for McCain over Obama. It's time to admit that Hillary Clinton is an extraordinarily toxic politician.
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oxsnard posted:I hope they play up that Hillary hates Bernie, maybe we can get some chuds to show up and vote for him in the primary I'm actually playing this angle up with some libertarian friends in Nevada and they're thinking of temporarily switching Dem so they could vote Bernie in the primary.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I'm actually playing this angle up with some libertarian friends in Nevada and they're thinking of temporarily switching Dem so they could vote Bernie in the primary. Libertarians for Bernie Sanders. Christ
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Feb 1, 2020 02:08
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goethe.cx posted:Libertarians for Bernie Sanders. Christ I have a libertarian friend who is voting Sanders and voted for Trump last time. His biggest issue is no military interference
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oxsnard posted:I have a libertarian friend who is voting Sanders and voted for Donald "I'm more honest and my women are more beautiful" Trump last time.It' His biggest issue is no military interference It's a good issue but jesus christ at thinking Trump wouldn't go off and bomb whoever he thought wouldn't bomb back. Clinton clearly wasn't the choice in that election for the single-issue voter either, but why didn't he go third party?
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goethe.cx posted:Libertarians for Bernie Sanders. Christ There's a lot more of them than you'd imagine. I've confronted quite a few doing texting shifts for Bernie.
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Mister Olympus posted:It's a good issue but jesus christ at thinking Trump wouldn't go off and bomb whoever he thought wouldn't bomb back. Clinton clearly wasn't the choice in that election for the single-issue voter either, but why didn't he go third party? I mean, to be fair, Trump was trolling a prominent Saudi prince and that's the source of where we inject a lot of violence into the world But yes I agree otherwise
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Mister Olympus posted:It's a good issue but jesus christ at thinking Trump wouldn't go off and bomb whoever he thought wouldn't bomb back. Clinton clearly wasn't the choice in that election for the single-issue voter either, but why didn't he go third party? He's probably racist.
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King of Solomon posted:I understand the frustration, but accepting this framing is bullshit. Bloomberg isn't accepting donations, he knows the debate qualification rules. If anything, the donor requirement protected him from having to be on stage with Bernie. Can you imagine how good it would be for Bernie to be able to contrast himself against Mike loving Bloomberg? Tom Steyer is trying to be Bernie's friend and always says "I agree with Bernie," so the contrast doesn't work there. No one should be able to buy themselves into a Presidential debate, let alone a campaign, and it sets a terrible precedent for the obvious ratfucking DNC to suddenly change the rules now when their only intent is to sandbag Sanders. Even if it doesn't work this is obviously some poo poo that should not be just shrugged off with the assumption that it is all going to work out for Sanders. Anyway: https://twitter.com/ccadelago/status/1223397734167797760
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Liquid Communism posted:Oh hey, they didn't even wait for Iowa this time. They won't.
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Bernie: get the money out of politics! Everyone else: but we like money! Mike B: did somebody say money heyooo
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Mat Cauthon posted:No one should be able to buy themselves into a Presidential debate, let alone a campaign, and it sets a terrible precedent for the obvious ratfucking DNC to suddenly change the rules now when their only intent is to sandbag Sanders. Even if it doesn't work this is obviously some poo poo that should not be just shrugged off with the assumption that it is all going to work out for Sanders. I mean, I agree with this in theory, but there was a poll yesterday showing Bloomberg in third place, and Steyer has already been on every stage since he announced. Bloomberg shouldn't be able to avoid debates if he's doing that well. Let's also not pretend that Bloomberg wouldn't hit the donor threshold if he accepted donations.
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goethe.cx posted:shutupshutupshutupshutupshutup I hope she never shuts up because every time she does this it's functionally another cool million for Bernie's campaign
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:I'm working with the SC Sanders team and am loving exhausted. Support us. Please. Thank you for all donations. As much work as I've done for the campaign lately, yall are probably in part paying my mortgage. Without that support I wouldn't be able to push as hard as I am right now. We've flipped so many people but there's so many more to go. Pizza party tomorrow, though (and not with campaign funds). Cpt_Obvious posted:Pizza is the most communist food. It comes evenly divided to be distributed as equally as possible among the people.
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The powerful self owns never stop. https://twitter.com/colinkalmbacher/status/1223347764655988736
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Liquid Communism posted:The powerful self owns never stop. God bless these stupid loving morons
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Liquid Communism posted:The powerful self owns never stop. Warren's brand is helped almost as much as Bernie's by being able to tee off on an rear end in a top hat billionaire. Steyer just isn't cutting it since his shtick seems to be being just a moment or two away from getting it, giving his money away, and joining the people
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Gyges posted:Warren's brand is helped almost as much as Bernie's by being able to tee off on an rear end in a top hat billionaire. Steyer just isn't cutting it since his shtick seems to be being just a moment or two away from getting it, giving his money away, and joining the people Yeah Steyer is pretty good at coming across as earnest in his desire to make positive change. He's still a billionaire so I know he's lying but he definitely doesn't come across as the kind of soulless ghoul that Bloomberg does.
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Harrow posted:I hope she never shuts up because every time she does this it's functionally another cool million for Bernie's campaign watch him pull in another half mil this night
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Gyges posted:Warren's brand is helped almost as much as Bernie's by being able to tee off on an rear end in a top hat billionaire. Steyer just isn't cutting it since his shtick seems to be being just a moment or two away from getting it, giving his money away, and joining the people More importantly, Warren's strategy is denying Bernie 50% and becoming the compromise candidate.
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https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1223331130050596864?s=20quote:Soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines have donated a total of $185,625 to Sen. Sanders’ 2020 campaign. By comparison, they have given $113,012 to Trump, $80,250 to Pete Buttigieg, $64,604 to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, and a relatively paltry $33,045 to former Vice President Joe Biden, according to Doug Weber, a senior researcher at the Center for Responsive Politics. Shocking news: enlisted people who are the first to die in foreign wars to make rich men even richer are fans of Bernie.
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