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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:Not advice, but sometimes I'll just sit at a light on a hill and put my foot behind the foot peg and let it dig into my shin like a man, not use any brake, the bike is being stopped from rolling back by my left foot. Don't do this. I know it's tempting because it puts your foot in the right position to hang it back for 200 ft until you get up the courage to put your feet on the pegs, but don't do that. Make it your goal to have both feet on the pegs before the bike has moved 12 inches forward from a stop. This is easier if one foot is already on the right peg and rear brake, and your hand doesn't have to be holding the front brake.
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I like to alternate holding the front and rear brakes on a hill so it looks like I have a pneumatic suspension and I'm flipping switches
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Jun 3, 2021 19:51
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I mostly use the front brake for holding it on hills. Either brake has pros and cons. Pro of using front brake: you can keep your left foot on the peg, so you can leave the bike in neutral and not switch the foot you're leaning on to kick it into gear quickly. Con: requires more skill to gently hold the brake, and roll on throttle in a controlled way. Pro of using rear brake: easier to control the throttle. Con: you have to switch the foot you lean on to put the bike in gear, or you have to hold the clutch all the time. LimaBiker fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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Jun 3, 2021 20:08
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:Not advice, but sometimes I'll just sit at a light on a hill and put my foot behind the foot peg and let it dig into my shin like a man, not use any brake, the bike is being stopped from rolling back by my left foot. quote:Other times I'll use the front brake with two fingers and roll the throttle on and work the clutch simultaneously at take off. quote:I have not thought about using the rear brake and appreciate that info. edit: also, "like a man" is the root of like 95% of stupid poo poo that happens on motorbikes. HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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Jun 3, 2021 20:20
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Coydog posted:Don't do this. I know it's tempting because it puts your foot in the right position to hang it back for 200 ft until you get up the courage to put your feet on the pegs, but don't do that. Ha. Yeah. I'm not really hanging my feet off when starting at all. It is literally because I was being too lazy to brake. I am going to try the rear brake, it sounds like the best option tbh. One thing I appreciate from the MSF class was that it's ok to take a step or two when launching from first. Then just get your feet up. Before that I was just raising my feet up at the same time as rolling on the throttle and releasing the clutch. It uses more brain power unnecessarily, especially if you are turning at the same time. HenryJLittlefinger posted:Don't do this. There is a list of things that could go wrong and properly gently caress you and your leg up. When someone posts something immensely useful I am just commenting on awkward things I am doing as a new rider because I think people might think it is funny, and maybe people might relate or be doing similar things. If this thread is for serious advice only discussion and questions, I'll stop. Quite literally that was self depreciating humor, and I thought I was being clear by saying it was not advice, saying how someone else's advice will help me. SSH IT ZOMBIE fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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Jun 3, 2021 20:23
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Yes, but pull your feet up quick after setting off, having them hanging down can be dangerous.
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Jun 3, 2021 20:37
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:When someone posts something immensely useful I am just commenting on awkward things I am doing as a new rider because I think people might think it is funny, and maybe people might relate or be doing similar things. If this thread is for serious advice only discussion and questions, I'll stop. Quite literally that was self depreciating humor, and I thought I was being clear by saying it was not advice, saying how someone else's advice will help me. Ok, gotcha. Yeah, generally we try to keep this thread free of too much buffoonery just because a lot of this really technical stuff is hard to parse if it's delivered in the normal something is awful forums tone. Also it's supposed to be the only thread in CA where questions are taken seriously and not given a dickish reply, so you should feel safe to discuss any new rider stuff.
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:One thing I appreciate from the MSF class was that it's ok to take a step or two when launching from first. Then just get your feet up. I'm by no means an expert but this seems terrible. Maybe it adds a comfort at first but it builds bad habits. SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:Before that I was just raising my feet up at the same time as rolling on the throttle and releasing the clutch. It uses more brain power unnecessarily, especially if you are turning at the same time. This is good and fine if you want to hold the front brake instead, or are on a flat surface. Don't worry about brain power, all of this will be second nature in no time and you won't even know you are doing it. Don't think I'm slinging heat at you or whatever. It's all fine and just a topic I wanted to discuss and make note of. The "dangling leg" sort of thing (which it doesn't seem like you do) is one of my annoyances with new riders. It SEEMS like it would help if the bike gets a little wonky off a start. What actually happens if you put your foot down to correct is A) You shatter your leg bones or B) you send the bike careening into a drunken wobble. The bike is already balanced. Trust it and focus on a smooth start and looking where you want to go. GriszledMelkaba posted:I like to alternate holding the front and rear brakes on a hill so it looks like I have a pneumatic suspension and I'm flipping switches  
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:
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Bike moving: feet on the pegs Bike stopped: one foot on the ground Bike moving/bike stopped is, in fact, binary and you don't need to have your foot dragging when it's doing 1km/h.
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Jun 3, 2021 21:10
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My MSF (in BC) did a little on hill starts because of the parking lot we were able to use. The more I ride the bike around town to and from work and the store and random trips the more I use the rear brake a lot more than I thought I would. numberoneposter fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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Jun 3, 2021 21:56
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I think I'll stop taking a step with the bike then. It's not something that feels natural anyway. I was occasionally doing it because it was strongly suggested to all of us during training. Yeah, if you put your foot down when the bike is already going it's just going to destabilize it. SSH IT ZOMBIE fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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Jun 3, 2021 22:07
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My usual goal while riding is to have my feet on the ground as little as possible. Maybe don't do this right now because this is the newbies thread but I'm sure I'm not the only one who plays the "lets see how long I can wait before putting a foot down" game when I approach a red light. At some point I may mess that up and look like a complete idiot at an intersection though.GriszledMelkaba posted:I like to alternate holding the front and rear brakes on a hill so it looks like I have a pneumatic suspension and I'm flipping switches Lol the traffic light I hit most often takes forever to change and is at the top of a steep hill so I play that game for minutes. Somehow waiting 2 mins for a light to change on a bike feels 10x as long as doing it in a car.
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MomJeans420 posted:My usual goal while riding is to have my feet on the ground as little as possible. Maybe don't do this right now because this is the newbies thread but I'm sure I'm not the only one who plays the "lets see how long I can wait before putting a foot down" game when I approach a red light. At some point I may mess that up and look like a complete idiot at an intersection though. numberoneposter fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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Jun 3, 2021 22:27
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numberoneposter posted:My MSF (in BC) did a little on hill starts because of the parking lot we were able to use. The rear brake is useful for a good half dozen different things and actual braking is pretty far down the list. It's a super useful tool, just not for slowing down in a hurry. People, reasonably, conclude that if they can brake hard enough to lift the rear then the rear brake is redundant. This is true in a sheer stopping power sense, but the rear brake makes the bike hunker down on the rear more, reduces load on the front and increases stability enormously. So even though the front is doing the actual work of stopping, the rear puts the bike in a better attitude which makes the front brake's and chassis' job easier.
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GriszledMelkaba posted:I like to alternate holding the front and rear brakes on a hill so it looks like I have a pneumatic suspension and I'm flipping switches lol I, too, find this hilarious
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If the hill is steep enough, the front brake won't hold the bike still. This was instilled in me by my riding instructor who knew exactly where in town such a hill existed and took me there to practice hill starts. When I tried with only the front brake the front tire started skidding backward.
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pun pundit posted:If the hill is steep enough, the front brake won't hold the bike still. This was instilled in me by my riding instructor who knew exactly where in town such a hill existed and took me there to practice hill starts. When I tried with only the front brake the front tire started skidding backward. I've found when unloading bikes from my van backwards down my ramp, which is covered in skateboard grip stuff, that the more front-heavy the bike is, the more useful the front is. So a Harley will pretty much just skid the whole way down the ramp if I try using the front, a sportbike can get down using only the front.
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Pro move at stop signs is to manage a complete stop and start without ever having to put a foot down. Also a lot of worrying about how to deal with hills goes away once you've been riding enough. I had to stop behind a car, scoot up and stop again at the sign on a steep hill yesterday, and I honestly can't even remember what specifically I did with my feet or which brake I used and how. I remember being aware of having to slip the clutch a lot to get moving but beyond that it just happened 
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Jun 4, 2021 01:58
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numberoneposter posted:ive attempted to track stand (stationary balance) my motorcycle at lights but im not sure its possible My dude have you heard of trials?
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Anyone know Why some riders let their leg 'drag' in the air after taking off? I think it's a race thing but I don't get it.
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SEKCobra posted:Anyone know Why some riders let their leg 'drag' in the air after taking off? I think it's a race thing but I don't get it. Weak hip flexor, making them unable to get their leg up quickly enough.
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Jun 4, 2021 06:29
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There is the Rossi dangle but that’s going into a braking zone/corner, not really taking off. Personally I hover my plant foot over the ground probably sooner than I need to while slowing down or while inching my way through slow speed stuff. I think it’s just peace of mind safety net type thinking. Russian Bear posted:Weak hip flexor, making them unable to get their leg up quickly enough. Man speaking of hip flexors, if I stretch my leg out for a sec then pull it back up I get the worst Charlie horses like half the time, is that a just me thing?
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Jun 4, 2021 06:30
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It's not just you. Gotta limber up.
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Jun 4, 2021 11:12
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I keep my feet in my armpits while riding
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SEKCobra posted:Anyone know Why some riders let their leg 'drag' in the air after taking off? I think it's a race thing but I don't get it. It's because they are dumb cowards hth
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I was gonna come back to this discussion and ask if anyone who does the foot drag or a walking start also does it on a bicycle. But then when I was driving around town I saw no less than 4 cyclists push off from a stoplight with about 3-4 kicks before putting weight on the pedals and pedaling. 
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Jun 4, 2021 18:08
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i saw a guy on an ADV last night foot waddling his bike in traffic but he also looked like he could barely flat foot.
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Jun 4, 2021 18:31
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Sometimes you do gotta do the exaggerated leg flailing walk as you start off just to make sure everybody around knows you're a weird idiot
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Jun 4, 2021 18:49
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I've only been to Rhode Island once, but for some reason every guy on a Harley there did the Fred Flintsone across every intersection when taking off from a light. I've only seen that there, it's a phenomenon I don't understand.
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Jun 4, 2021 19:00
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Last time out I did the right foot on brake thing at a stop, works well. Probably gonna be default for me now. Uh, my bike is a little big for me. My feet touch but just barely. It's also the bike I wanted so it was just a tradeoff. How do I get on and off without looking like a clown? I sorta have to jump off and bounce on one leg since my other doesn't like to go that high. Can I like use the left foot peg to stand on while getting off, or throw it in neutral and get off of it while it's still rolling and has forward momentum? Sorta watching on YouTube how shorter people dismount enduro bikes or something, which are even bigger.
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Jun 4, 2021 19:17
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Depending on how sturdy your kickstand is, you can absolutely board/deboard it by standing on the peg like you're getting on a horse. I did that all the time on my Vstrom
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I kind of do the walk the first time I take off. For some reason my muscle memory shits the bed and I forget how to pull out off my parking spot. My ADD brain kicking in and fidgeting while parked at lights is my preferred way of showing off that I'm a dumbass whole riding.
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I’m usually instant-up once the bike isn’t completely stopped but every now and then I have a “duhh” moment where I stumble forward and do the duck walk of shame.
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Jun 4, 2021 19:39
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LOL if you don't "reverse-pence" mount your motorcycle like this every time. Just LOL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OfActYLVnE
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Jun 4, 2021 20:32
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Clearly Power Ranger is the correct way https://www.instagram.com/p/CNuw01Kn0Jy/
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I like to lift my feet off the ground and pretend I’m walking as I pull away. Obviously you have to go faster or take bigger air steps as the bike speeds up.
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Jun 5, 2021 03:36
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Yabba Dabba Doo!
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Foot on the break, give gas and feather the clutch to roll off  Wouldve failed the license handling test and driving test otherwise Not sure if Ive posted it before, but heres the handling test we have here, that you have to complete before having a driving test on the public roads before you get your license. You get two tries for each challenge, also its a fail if you drop your foot to the ground anytime youre not supposed to stop the bike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ft7OrUETw You can start from about 3 minutes in if you dont want to listen to gibberish.
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Patrocclesiastes posted:its a fail if you drop your foot to the ground anytime youre not supposed to stop the bike Same here, plus it's a warning (4 and you fail) for having your foot off the peg too early or too late.
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