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ObamaPhone
Jul 6, 2016

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

I think this is how Eli Roth operates. I remember when Hostel came out it had the reputation of being the most depraved poo poo ever, but it was actually really mild compared to the other torture porn movies coming out at the time. I think the expectation he builds with his films definitely plays into their atmospheres when you first watch them.

The Green Inferno was good satire.

It had that ultra-dark comedy like Tusk.

I laughed throughout Green Inferno and consider it a satisfying horror comedy.

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Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Jedit posted:

There's no way to condense that narrative into less than three hours plus, and nobody is going to sit their rear end on a chair for a three hour horror movie. Once you've taken that as a given, there's also no sensible way to split it except by fully dividing the 1958 and 1985 timelines because otherwise the first movie has no resolution point. You can get away with natural breaks in something like Lord of the Rings, but horror movies need to end with a plot climax (although you may have a "... but it's not really over" moment).
Also has the benefit of not having to commit a full cast to both movies.

Also it's been confirmed that they're moving up the plot so the 1958 section basically takes place in 1985ish.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
One of the kids in the film is also in Stranger Things and has a awesome last name : Wolfhead. He's really great in Stranger Things which you should all be watching.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




The Mist still has the dumbest ending. The dude shooting everyone in the car is funny as gently caress, just the look on that kids face when he wakes up before the dude blows his brains out. They didn't even ask him!

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I don't think IT is going to work out if they're going to tell the stories completely separately. The present day story especially is not really paced well on its own, I'd think a lot of stuff would have to be added.

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

Basebf555 posted:

I don't think IT is going to work out if they're going to tell the stories completely separately. The present day story especially is not really paced well on its own, I'd think a lot of stuff would have to be added.

I wish a decent director & writer would tackle The Talisman instead.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~

hemale in pain posted:

The Mist still has the dumbest ending.

The ending to the movie is actually great, and a perfect horrible gut-punch to go out on.

Edit: I watched Basket Case yesterday, and it was awesome. Can anyone tell me the historical significance, though? I thought it was the first successful DTV horror movie, but apparently that's not true.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Hollismason posted:

Everyone talking about Woman in Black reminds me of the Lady in White ,which I feel is a underrated 1980s kids horror film. That movie scared the poo poo out of me as a child.

Lady in White doesn't get enough love here.

Edit:

Huh, I just realized I've only ever seen the televised edition version of Lady in White. I guess as a kid I watched it on TV. I always thought it was a kids film and not rated R.

Interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Lady_(ghost)

Apparently it was based on a local legend.

Yeah, I was looking up The Lady in White due to being reminded of it because of the Woman in Black discussion. I never realized it was rated R either, since I only ever saw the TV version as a kid.

TL;DR - me too.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Glamorama26 posted:

David Warner is fabulous in Waxwork. Everything rules in Waxwork.

Agreed: Waxwork doesn't get the attention it deserves. It's got such a great weird vibe, sometimes feeling a bit like Twin Peaks (the inclusion of Dana Ashbrook in the cast helping a lot with this). It's also got a bit of everything because of how the story works too making it a great party film.



Oh and of course it also has the valley girl and as you say: David loving Warner in one of the best suits of his acting career too.

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

This is all of course optional and anyone can stop a movie any time they like and just move on. You just kind of give up all bitching rights when you do that. I'd rather work harder to engage with art and find something of value through that work than to just give up, tho.

My favourite example of a person giving up on a film and missing something important was when one of my friends gave up on Melancholia and told me that nothing was happening in that film. I assured her she missed something a bit dramatic happening.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Horror movies are typically under two hours, and a lot of them are purposely designed to build up to a handful of specific moments, so bailing out halfway through seems pretty dumb to me.

I've done it a handful of times where for whatever reason I was fooled into thinking a movie was legit but then when I start watching it I realize its a SyFy channel-level no-budget crapfest. Its extremely rare though.

ObamaPhone
Jul 6, 2016

InfiniteZero posted:

Agreed: Waxwork doesn't get the attention it deserves. It's got such a great weird vibe, sometimes feeling a bit like Twin Peaks (the inclusion of Dana Ashbrook in the cast helping a lot with this). It's also got a bit of everything because of how the story works too making it a great party film.



Oh and of course it also has the valley girl and as you say: David loving Warner in one of the best suits of his acting career too.


My favourite example of a person giving up on a film and missing something important was when one of my friends gave up on Melancholia and told me that nothing was happening in that film. I assured her she missed something a bit dramatic happening.

If you watch as many horror movies as I do, you would not want to continue watching after the first 30 minutes if the flick is not your taste.

Half of the time, I fast forward through the entire movie to see what kind of horror it is: supernatural, slasher, thriller, etc., because I already know what I will like or dislike.

It's almost like reading a book... If you don't enjoy it after reading 50 pages, you should go ahead and stop reading it.

Basebf555 posted:

Horror movies are typically under two hours, and a lot of them are purposely designed to build up to a handful of specific moments, so bailing out halfway through seems pretty dumb to me.

I've done it a handful of times where for whatever reason I was fooled into thinking a movie was legit but then when I start watching it I realize its a SyFy channel-level no-budget crapfest. Its extremely rare though.

95% of the movies I have watched over the course of my life I will not change my opinion about if I return to a film that I stopped watching after seeing the first half.

Troma movies are a great example I can't get down with, even though that production company releases one cult flick after another.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Everyone here watches as many horror movies as you do you self important rear end. There are people here who've watched dozens of movies that only exist on YouTube, have vhs collections that outweigh their cars, and also SubG, who has lived as long as the earth itself and will watch our civilization and all its art crumble like so many before it

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


I don't think it's necessarily bad to quit on a movie if you're just not into it. Sitting through something unpleasant (and not in a good way) just in the hopes it gets better seems kinda odd to me. That said I think you should also be able to tell if a movie's being built up slowly or is something that is designed to take some time developing.

Also as an aside, instead of people just reacting with shock/incredulity about the dude whose post history in the thread has been nothing but "[thing that is popular] actually sucks, but [thing that is unpopular] is good" just put him on ignore/don't engage.

SubG posted:

"Yeah so I'm loving this chick but so far it's been pretty boring and I don't see what all the fuss is about. When does it pick up?"

edit:

"About halfway through and it still seems pretty predictable."

edit:

"Okay, it got better at the end, although I don't think the ending really made any sense."

this got a laugh out of me.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
If you're not feeling a movie it's perfectly fine to stop watching it. No one's forcing you to watch it. It's just very weird to then expect anyone to really care about what you have to say about the movie.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

SubG posted:

"Yeah so I'm loving this chick but so far it's been pretty boring and I don't see what all the fuss is about. When does it pick up?"

edit:

"About halfway through and it still seems pretty predictable."

edit:

"Okay, it got better at the end, although I don't think the ending really made any sense."

To be fair, I feel like every man has had this feeling at least once, and it makes you question everything about reality.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Of course everyone should watch or not watch movies in whatever way they feel like. But if you're quitting halfway through you're taking a risk that you're missing out on something good because I don't think its possible to properly judge most movies on 30 or 45 minutes.

Some people don't have a lot of free time and they consider it precious, so if they aren't feeling a movie I can understand bailing. As a single guy with very few responsibilities, I do not have this problem.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
Cinema Discusso: As a single guy with very few responsibilities, I do not have this problem

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

LesterGroans posted:

Cinema Discusso: As a single guy with very few responsibilities, I do not have this problem

Could be my very first thread title!

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender
I showed my girlfriend of 3 years Evil Dead 2 and she didn't seem to enjoy it that much. Maybe I should have explained what kind of movie it is? We watched The Invitation the day before, which might have given her the wrong expectations. Needless to say I'm single now I'm not

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

alansmithee posted:

Also as an aside, instead of people just reacting with shock/incredulity about the dude whose post history in the thread has been nothing but "[thing that is popular] actually sucks, but [thing that is unpopular] is good" just put him on ignore/don't engage.

Unfortunately, the ignore function of this web site is immoral.

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



SubG posted:

"Yeah so I'm loving this chick but so far it's been pretty boring and I don't see what all the fuss is about. When does it pick up?"

edit:

"About halfway through and it still seems pretty predictable."

edit:

"Okay, it got better at the end, although I don't think the ending really made any sense."

I giggled at this.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Timeless Appeal posted:

Also has the benefit of not having to commit a full cast to both movies.

Also it's been confirmed that they're moving up the plot so the 1958 section basically takes place in 1985ish.

It's kind of groinky to realise that if there were a sequel to IT, it would already be set in the past.

trip9
Feb 15, 2011

I'll nth the people who said Stranger Things is enjoyable and you should watch it. The whole thing is a pretty by-the-numbers trope fest, but I'll be damned if it doesn't nail the execution on everything. Loooove the soundtrack as well.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

LesterGroans posted:

Cinema Discusso: As a single guy with very few responsibilities, I do not have this problem

Gimme Blood : The Horror thread for single guys with very few responsibilities


New Thread Title !

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Jedit posted:

It's kind of groinky to realise that if there were a sequel to IT, it would already be set in the past.
I do wonder if King was thinking of a sequel as he sort of hints in Dreamcatcher.

It would have been a glorious mess.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
King's proven that he's not afraid to attempt sequels, or to revisit old characters, so it is a little surprising he hasn't done one for IT yet. Just the fact that he's still alive and still a prolific writer in 2016 is surprising actually.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
He had one of the best roles in Sons of Anarchy and had they made him a regular it might not have sucked so bad after the third season.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Any thoughts on The Skeptic? I saw it on Shudder and the description sounds like it could be fun.

Edit: Saw as in saw it was available, not that I watched it.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


to be fair they look like people is a movie in which almost nothing happened starring generally unlikable youngish people. whether that makes it a bad movie or not is more debatable

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Profondo Rosso posted:

to be fair they look like people is a movie in which almost nothing happened starring generally unlikable youngish people. whether that makes it a bad movie or not is more debatable

I totally get how someone could not enjoy They Look Like People, but if you don't watch the whole thing and miss the payoff at the end, you can't really judge it properly. The entire movie builds to that one scene. Also, its 80 minutes long so its really not much of a time investment.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

TBeats posted:

He had one of the best roles in Sons of Anarchy

This is true.

TBeats posted:

and had they made him a regular it might not have sucked so bad after the third season.

The only way he could have saved the show would have been to take it over from Kurt Sutter.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Basebf555 posted:

I totally get how someone could not enjoy They Look Like People, but if you don't watch the whole thing and miss the payoff at the end, you can't really judge it properly. The entire movie builds to that one scene. Also, its 80 minutes long so its really not much of a time investment.

oh I don't disagree and obamaphone is either a troll or an idiot, but I can kinda see where he's coming from on his criticism of TLLP.

ObamaPhone
Jul 6, 2016

Profondo Rosso posted:

to be fair they look like people is a movie in which almost nothing happened starring generally unlikable youngish people. whether that makes it a bad movie or not is more debatable

Generally unlikable is spot on.

The cast to me was made up of extras from the set of Birdman.

Birdman being the apex of what banal hipster trash can accomplish.

Sorry if this comes off like a personal attack because this isn't aimed at anybody but the films themselves.

Basebf555 posted:

I totally get how someone could not enjoy They Look Like People, but if you don't watch the whole thing and miss the payoff at the end, you can't really judge it properly. The entire movie builds to that one scene. Also, its 80 minutes long so its really not much of a time investment.

Do you have a link to this scene on Youtube or something?

I tried to find it myself but instead was treated to more irritating smushiness between the co-lead and his Asian GF/boss.

EDIT: 80 minutes is a short run time but still too much to invest for one or two good scenes.

A couple of flicks I watched recently with which I skipped to the money shot were The Taking of Deborah Logan and Amityville II: The Possession.

ObamaPhone fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 18, 2016

ObamaPhone
Jul 6, 2016

Profondo Rosso posted:

oh I don't disagree and obamaphone is either a troll or an idiot, but I can kinda see where he's coming from on his criticism of TLLP.

Idiot, not a troll, thanks.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
The ending scene doesn't appear to be on youtube, no. Too bad, you missed a major apocalyptic scene with great special effects where everyone on the street turns into a horrific creature and the main character runs through the city as they nip at his heels. It smash cuts to credits right as he's about to be devoured.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
God drat it that better not be the ending. I was going to watch it today.

edit:

Double God drat it if that's not the ending I don't want to know because then I won't want to watch it today.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Hollismason posted:

God drat it that better not be the ending. I was going to watch it today.

Come on I'm not that stupid

Or maybe you're joking and I'm stupid after all

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

Basebf555 posted:

Come on I'm not that stupid

That just makes it worse :(

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Complaining about hipsters has been oldhat since the 1950s.

It's basically on the same level as being annoyed by sagging pants. That is to say solely the domain of clueless old people and really lame young guys.

FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jul 18, 2016

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Hollismason posted:

That just makes it worse :(

Sorry I didn't realize posting one of the infinite scenarios that could happen in a movie would be considered a spoiler.

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