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Mikojan posted:I remember loving double eagle, but I honestly can't recall a single thing that happens in that book. More or less same, even then I think I like it more than Titanicus. Mostly because it doesn't have a pair of plotlines that feels superfluous, and an actual ending battle and not just one that goes "And then stuff happened" because he ran out of page space as per usual. Not to mention it doesn't have a feeling of having too many plotlines crammed into one story.
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The only scene you need to remember from Titanicus is the one with the skitarii who's so  about having an automatic grenade launcher. It's one of the best scenes in 40K fiction.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i like the idea that lots of chaos clowns steal valor for being at terra because it was such a horror show message and chaos is so hosed up and nuts, who is gonna try to prove it. most actual vets of terra are like deamons now or gibbering psychos or so high up the ladder no one cares. So like Jocius Baby Smasher of the orbit fornicators warband can say he personally pissed on the walls of dorn and dorn saw this and cried and poo poo himself, is anyone really gonna quastion him. plus something that gets forgotten in most of the media, i haven't read the end of the siege series so i'm a bit behind on that, but there's a giant war in the webway at the base of the palace where there's titans and chaos space marines from the future as well as untold amounts of daemons that the custodians are dealing with, so technically a chaos marine can say he was at the emperor's palace because technically there is a connection between the webway and the palace in the imperial dungeon.
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Ardent Communist posted:plus something that gets forgotten in most of the media, i haven't read the end of the siege series so i'm a bit behind on that, but there's a giant war in the webway at the base of the palace where there's titans and chaos space marines from the future as well as untold amounts of daemons that the custodians are dealing with, so technically a chaos marine can say he was at the emperor's palace because technically there is a connection between the webway and the palace in the imperial dungeon. its also just trillions of combatents fighting. i can see it being easy to fake being there if you play your hand right.
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Feb 9, 2024 01:06
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Kylaer posted:The only scene you need to remember from Titanicus is the one with the skitarii who's so That whole conversation is great, and definitely a highlight of the book.
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Feb 9, 2024 01:41
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Dapper_Swindler posted:its also just trillions of combatents fighting. i can see it being easy to fake being there if you play your hand right. Yeah I think for a lot of Chaos guys they were Just Another Guy on Terra.
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Feb 9, 2024 02:10
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There's probably some guy that waited in queue for so long and just about made if off his dropship before having to turn around and get back in again because Horus carked it. "Yes I was there on Terra on the day Horus slew the Emperor."
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Feb 9, 2024 03:11
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Someone who was off pillaging Antarctica talking about how they were on Terra in the Heresy and were totally involved in the big siege of the Palace. Because, lets face it, a lot of the dudes who actually breached the inner palace are the ones who were least likely to escape it when the tables turned.
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Feb 9, 2024 03:25
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It's kinda important to note that a whooooooooooole lot of the traitors outside the eye of terror got absolutely murdeously hosed by loyalist reprisals after the conclusion of the siege. It was a pretty severe and comprehensive purge which is probably why the traitor legions immediately started infighting once they got bottled into the Eye. I'm sure a lot of named charcters were there or whatever, but the Night Lord books make it pretty clear that the loyalists didn't pull any punches with their purge attempts. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Feb 9, 2024 |
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Feb 9, 2024 05:08
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Z the IVth posted:There's probably some guy that waited in queue for so long and just about made if off his dropship before having to turn around and get back in again because Horus carked it. Even if they never made it to Terra at all, just surviving in the Eye for (10,000 +/- $WARP_FUCKERY) years is decent evidence of them being badasses. Chaos Astartes can't exactly take off the armour (sometimes literally) and get a desk job.
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Well that was wild When the fight started around 20% in or whatever I did wonder if it was going to then go on for most of the rest of the book and wasn't dissapointed. Loved it all except the dumb tarot card battle, it felt like the parts in the midway books where they were selling a new model It's going to be odd not having an endless supply of sequels to look forward to
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Feb 9, 2024 21:32
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You say that like there won't be a dozen books about The Scouring.
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Arc Hammer posted:You say that like there won't be a dozen books about The Scouring. Only a dozen? That's EZ mode.
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Feb 9, 2024 22:20
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This is true
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What are even the big beats of the Scouring? Most of the traitor homeworlds are already cinders, aren't they The Iron Cage is the most famous event by a long shot, then the destruction of Caliban I guess... then what? The Night Lords' last stand at Tsagualsa has been partially covered already, I guess it could get expanded upon but ehhh. The planet where Lorgar was chilling during TEATD could make for a bit of a story before it gets brutally eliminated. Anything else? (A bunch of books about the reorganisation of the Imperium and the political clashes over the Codex could be really nice, but there's zero chance GW puts out any books without the required 5-10 battle scenes.)
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NihilCredo posted:
Chris Wraight could do it really well, judging from Watchers of the Throne.
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Has there ever been anything about Goge Vandire outside of the codices? That would be cool. And if there already is, then idk maybe more would be good too?
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Preechr posted:Has there ever been anything about Goge Vandire outside of the codices? That would be cool. And if there already is, then idk maybe more would be good too? He was well after the scouring but he does show up in the war of the beast series iirc
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NihilCredo posted:What are even the big beats of the Scouring? Most of the traitor homeworlds are already cinders, aren't they I can see a really fun book waiting to be written on rearguard Alpha Legion stuff making the recovering Imperium chase its own tail, seed dissension over who may or may not still be a traitor, and the like. The traitors finally heading into the Eye could make a good book as well. Curze being recovered and told of all the madness on Terra, plus Sevatar's final fate, are also around this time.
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death of curze, ultramarines vs alpha legion, iron cage, there’s a lot of material for a scouring series
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NihilCredo posted:What are even the big beats of the Scouring? Most of the traitor homeworlds are already cinders, aren't they I could see a Skalthralax book, that's always felt like a fun setting in the moments it's been referenced in other material. Scouring segues pretty naturally into the Legion Wars in the Eye, which have been covered somewhat by the Black Legion series but there's elements there that could be expanded on / developed.
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Edit nvm
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The death/disappearance of Dorn and the entombment of Guilliman would be big Scouring beats. Essentially how the Scouring comes to a crashing halt as the remaining Primarchs vanish or withdraw and the seeds of the nascent Imperium begin to sprout and coalesce into the Imperium we know today.
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a lovely king posted:I could see a Skalthralax book, that's always felt like a fun setting in the moments it's been referenced in other material. There was a bit of a Skallathrax book. One of the Kharn-centered ones, with him still inert after the flight from Terra and an Emperor's Children officer stuck on WE ships on the flight after the defeat. It was not very good.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i like the idea that lots of chaos clowns steal valor for being at terra because it was such a horror show message and chaos is so hosed up and nuts, who is gonna try to prove it. most actual vets of terra are like deamons now or gibbering psychos or so high up the ladder no one cares. So like Jocius Baby Smasher of the orbit fornicators warband can say he personally pissed on the walls of dorn and dorn saw this and cried and poo poo himself, is anyone really gonna quastion him. I know in the word bearer books there's a Dreadnaught that used to lead the warband during the siege of terra, but now he's so crazy that EVERY battle is a battle at the gates of the Palace. Outside battle he's rather sane, but during it they have chains on him to keep him from charging to far and he's constantly screaming about going to kill the emperor. Everyone around him just shrugs and says "Yep, that's right old buddy, let's go kill us an Emperor".
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Arc Hammer posted:The death/disappearance of Dorn and the entombment of Guilliman would be big Scouring beats. Essentially how the Scouring comes to a crashing halt as the remaining Primarchs vanish or withdraw and the seeds of the nascent Imperium begin to sprout and coalesce into the Imperium we know today. Dorn goes missing/dies during the First Black Crusade, which is significantly later than the Scouring
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Huh I thought it was post-Iron Cage. The most I remember of the 1st Black Crusade was Sigismund fighting Abaddon
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I feel like a Scouring series is the obvious lazy next step, but there's surely only so much mileage to be had from "and then the vengeful Imperial forces bombarded the traitor world from orbit, killing the entire population, just like they had at the previous 689 traitor worlds..." I mean they'll probably do it, I'm just not sure how interesting it would be.
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Roller Coast Guard posted:I mean they'll probably do it, I'm just not sure how interesting it would be. I'd read character focused novels from ADB and Abnett about named characters scrabbling to get out of dodge but tbh I'd rather them write some "modern day" books for a while.
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The only way to make it bearable would be to finally write a mostly violence-free Warhammer book. All politics, all personal fates, no war.
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FPyat posted:The only way to make it bearable would be to finally write a mostly violence-free Warhammer book. All politics, all personal fates, no war. Since all the authors compete to find the best way to slip the "In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war" tagline into their books, it's time to flip the script. "The point of everything we do is to achieve peace. What else would you expect, a future of only war?"
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FPyat posted:The only way to make it bearable would be to finally write a mostly violence-free Warhammer book. All politics, all personal fates, no war. I'd watch a Mad Men style show with the primarchs.
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He just appeared in a vignette from pt2, but do we ever see more of that loyalist Word Bearer on Terra? (The one who was waiting to assassinate Lorgar.)
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moths posted:He just appeared in a vignette from pt2, but do we ever see more of that loyalist Word Bearer on Terra? Nope, both he and Ingo Pech get forgotten in volume 3
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Kylaer posted:Nope, both he and Ingo Pech get forgotten in volume 3 Pech makes sense, he feels like someone who will be picked up later... Maybe 10,000 years later
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this is the 2nd 40k meme ive seen frome that interview in as many days. 
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I am slightly annoyed at how Valdor got merked. But I am also a bit confused about what Eribus did in the fight, was he the reason the gravity was all fucky? Valdor should probably have been rolling with a load of sisters. I also really liked the impromptu Yu-Gi-Oh battle along with The Emperor fighting dirty and adjusting his tactics as he went along.
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notaspy posted:Pech makes sense, he feels like someone who will be picked up later... Maybe 10,000 years later I think he might turn out to be Eisenhorn's new buddy.
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