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3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization



Aaaand fires on the grapevine and along the 210 to add a couple cherries on top. My plan to take two trips to LA to avoid renting a Uhaul looks worse every day.

I do appreciate this update of a classic though. Looking forward to the nuclear bomb version next year!

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PASS THE MASH
Oct 30, 2013


CharlestheHammer posted:

Well he was like Andrew Jackson, in that he took the game up a notch.

Ehh Jackson wasn’t that far out of the norm for the time. IMO Van Buren deserves way more hate than he gets.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Uterine Lineup posted:

This time is different: eight centuries of financial folly

Read it awhile ago but it might be what you’re looking for.

This book rules.

It wa required lf reading back in the day.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Uterine Lineup posted:

This time is different: eight centuries of financial folly

Read it awhile ago but it might be what you’re looking for.

No.

That's the book by the authors that had an excel error that lead the authors to think that debt had an impact on economic growth and caused them to get laughed out of economic circles after pushing pro-austerity policies and basically caused the entire Euro crisis.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/the-reinhart-and-rogoff-controversy-a-summing-up

quote:

Addressing a new paper by three lesser lights of their profession from the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, which uncovered data omissions, questionable methods of weighting, and elementary coding errors in Reinhart and Rogoff’s original work, and which went around the world like a viral video, the Harvard duo dismissed the entire brouhaha as “academic kerfuffle” that hadn’t vitiated their main points.

Really? Even somebody living in a bubble stretching over Harvard Yard would have difficulty believing that. For all of the illuminating work Reinhart and Rogoff have done on the history of financial crises and their aftermaths, including their popular 2011 book “This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly,” their most influential claim was that rising levels of government debt are associated with much weaker rates of economic growth, indeed negative ones. In undermining this claim, the attack from Amherst has done enormous damage to Reinhart and Rogoff’s credibility, and to the intellectual underpinnings of the austerity policies with which they are associated.


Unless the point is that book is a huge scam and I'm getting wooshed here.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







oh wait no I'm thinking of kicking away the ladder.

The Big Jesus
Oct 29, 2007

#essereFerrari
A lot of people in here are real bitter about investing in crypto... It made me good money and it is possible to do responsibly, but whatever, you do you.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

The Big Jesus posted:

A lot of people in here are real bitter about investing in crypto... It made me good money and it is possible to do responsibly, but whatever, you do you.

Because it's not an investment. It's a dunning-Krugerrand that's only good for buying drugs or kiddie porn.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







https://twitter.com/GraellsiaMoon/status/938512838259245058

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

The Big Jesus posted:

A lot of people in here are real bitter about investing in crypto... It made me good money and it is possible to do responsibly, but whatever, you do you.

How’d you get your money out? My cousin made 50k on a $100 investment in 2012 but he’s having a hell of a time getting money out. He’s gotten 2k out of a Canadian ATM so he’s already won but it feels like you’re investing in a poker site. Same exact feel about the uncertainty.

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


axeil posted:

Because it's not an investment. It's a dunning-Krugerrand that's only good for buying drugs or kiddie porn.

Pretty much this. Bitcoin isn't really good for much itself. It's like a really volatile stock. It's fine for investing I guess but there's too much risk in my opinion because it doesn't have any intrinsic value.

It's cool that people made money on it but in my opinion it's just straight gambling. There are much safer ways to make money.

cosmic gumbo
Mar 26, 2005

IMA
  1. GRIP
  2. N
  3. SIP
I can't speak to the academic/austerity stuff I just enjoyed the book when I read it.

Kicking Away the Ladder is also really good but not really what you're looking for.

Manias, Panics, and Crashes: A History of Financial Crises is supposed to be good too but I never got around to picking it up.

The bad with money thread recommends Beyond the Grave revised edition: The Right Way and the Wrong Way of Leaving Money To Your Children but that's more about poor estate planning with real life examples.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
Bitcoin made the classic mistake of not salvaging hundreds of tons of stolen WW2 Chinese gold in the hold of a experimental Nazi sub off the coast of the Philippines to back their fake currency in a data haven in a fictional sultanate.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Its Rinaldo posted:

Bitcoin made the classic mistake of not salvaging hundreds of tons of stolen WW2 Chinese gold in the hold of a experimental Nazi sub off the coast of the Philippines to back their fake currency in a data haven in a fictional sultanate.

Sick reference bro.. Your references are out of control man.

edit: The gold in the sunken sub was just the initial investment. They actually used the intel from the sunken sub to find the main vault which was hidden on a Philippine island deep underground. That was the gold they used to back the cryptocurrency.

Neil Armbong
Jan 16, 2004

If anybody wants to see, there's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up.
Pillbug

The Big Jesus posted:

A lot of people in here are real bitter about investing in crypto... It made me good money and it is possible to do responsibly, but whatever, you do you.

Have you liquidated your gains? There's a lot of paper millionaires rn like in the first dot com boom, but it means nothing if you can't spend or access your investment.

weird Asian candy
Aug 23, 2005

Ask me about how my football team's success determines my self worth, and how I wish I lived in New Orleans.
The wife and I signed papers on a new build home a little over a week ago and today is design center day! Time to pick out all the stuff we will grow to hate in a few years!

The Big Jesus
Oct 29, 2007

#essereFerrari

Neil Armbong posted:

Have you liquidated your gains? There's a lot of paper millionaires rn like in the first dot com boom, but it means nothing if you can't spend or access your investment.

Yeah I liquidated last month to pay the fees for my next semester of grad school

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

The Big Jesus posted:

Yeah I liquidated last month to pay the fees for my next semester of grad school

If you don’t want to share how in the forum want to just PM me? My question above still stands

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

weird Asian candy posted:

The wife and I signed papers on a new build home a little over a week ago and today is design center day! Time to pick out all the stuff we will grow to hate in a few years!

Heck yes friend congrats:toot:

The Big Jesus
Oct 29, 2007

#essereFerrari

Amy Pole Her posted:

How’d you get your money out? My cousin made 50k on a $100 investment in 2012 but he’s having a hell of a time getting money out. He’s gotten 2k out of a Canadian ATM so he’s already won but it feels like you’re investing in a poker site. Same exact feel about the uncertainty.

I bought and sold through an exchange, coinbase. Not a huge amount, just in the mid four figures. I just used some extra money I had in my checking account, but made enough to where I didn't have to pull from my vanguard brokerage for another year.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
Bitcoin is bad but you can have exposure to the volatility of it (the attractive part to these speculators) without ever leaving USD through mechanisms like GBTC. Liquidity is what goons focus on the most and it’s dumb when it being a Ponzi scheme is the much bigger problem

Neil Armbong
Jan 16, 2004

If anybody wants to see, there's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up.
Pillbug

Time posted:

Bitcoin is bad but you can have exposure to the volatility of it (the attractive part to these speculators) without ever leaving USD through mechanisms like GBTC. Liquidity is what goons focus on the most and it’s dumb when it being a Ponzi scheme is the much bigger problem

Isn't liquidity, or lack thereof, ultimately what dooms a Ponzi scheme?

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

Neil Armbong posted:

Isn't liquidity, or lack thereof, ultimately what dooms a Ponzi scheme?

There are a couple different views on this. The one I subscribe to is that the underlying security being fraudulent is the issue, with liquidity problems being what determines who ends up holding the bag at the end. In this scenario liquidity is the trigger, not the bullet.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

weird Asian candy posted:

The wife and I signed papers on a new build home a little over a week ago and today is design center day! Time to pick out all the stuff we will grow to hate in a few years!

GRANITE
COUNTERTOPS

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Neil Armbong posted:

Have you liquidated your gains? There's a lot of paper millionaires rn like in the first dot com boom, but it means nothing if you can't spend or access your investment.

I use it as a super high rate interest savings then just skim the profits when they hit a certain amount or if i want to buy something,


E.g in the past week i bought myself a smart watch and a new PC monitor just off the profits and in the last 2 days the price inflation has caused me to get that amount back almost instantly,


Amy Pole Her posted:

If you don’t want to share how in the forum want to just PM me? My question above still stands


You can cash out very slowly over the course of x time depending on what your withdrawl limit is. Thats what a lot of guys have been doing.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Holy gently caress, a cop is finally going to prison:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/938790299576557570

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr

Ehud posted:

GRANITE
COUNTERTOPS

Don't listen to this fool. Quartz for life.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Kalli posted:

Holy gently caress, a cop is finally going to prison:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/938790299576557570

Will appeal down to a 1 game suspension and a fine.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
I miss online poker

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Eli Wiggum posted:

I miss online poker

Same. I played a ton back in 2006 and was decentish at it. Never made more than like $20 but it was a great way to kill time.

Funny enough I went to a casino last year with my folks after Christmas and I played again for the first time in a while. Turned $200 into $450 in 3 hours. The old dudes at the table were really bad at playing poker.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

axeil posted:

Same. I played a ton back in 2006 and was decentish at it. Never made more than like $20 but it was a great way to kill time.

Funny enough I went to a casino last year with my folks after Christmas and I played again for the first time in a while. Turned $200 into $450 in 3 hours. The old dudes at the table were really bad at playing poker.
Those old dudes were most likely fishing with their bad draws.

My greatest online poker triumph was in 2010 on PokerStars. I bought into huge Friday night tournament at $10 and finished in 2nd place with $9K.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

Eli Wiggum posted:

Those old dudes were most likely fishing with their bad draws.

My greatest online poker triumph was in 2010 on PokerStars. I bought into huge Friday night tournament at $10 and finished in 2nd place with $9K.

Dang nice run!

FSU had a big poker scene. I had a buddy who went on to get 5th in 2011 (iirc) WSOP ME

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Kalli posted:

Holy gently caress, a cop is finally going to prison:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/938790299576557570

If anyone was going to actually face justice it would be Slager.

Just so you all don't think this is a turning point. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363505-female-police-captain-suspended-after-saying-a-fellow-officer

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Eli Wiggum posted:

Those old dudes were most likely fishing with their bad draws.

My greatest online poker triumph was in 2010 on PokerStars. I bought into huge Friday night tournament at $10 and finished in 2nd place with $9K.

You would be correct. They would get very mad when they limped in, the flop came down and gave me two pair or something but with a potential draw on the table and I bet big enough to force them to fold or make a very stupid call. I got lucky and the few times they made their dumb calls their straight/flush draws didn't come and I would win with something like KK/99 versus a suited Q/trash.

And then when I was the one who had the drawing hands I'd still bet to try and kick out anyone who was sitting there with a good pair. The play was so weak and timid, it was amazing. There was a sequence where I stole the blinds like 4 hands in a row with pretty marginal hands just because I realized everyone was folding to me no matter what I did.

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Eli Wiggum posted:

I miss online poker

I got like 3rd place in one of the goon tournaments once and won like 150 bucks on a 5 dollar entry, which was huge for 21 year old No Butt Stuff

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
One summer I couldn't find a job because I came home from college later than everyone else so I cut a deal with my parents to let me just grind poker online all day because I had played a bunch at school and I was pretty profitable.

I was 4 tabling $2/$4 LHE and doing $20 buyin NLHE SNGs for like 10 hours a day becauss I didn't want the massive variances of NLHE or the potential poor ROI of tournaments and it was miserable. I gained like 25 pounds.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Spoeank posted:

One summer I couldn't find a job because I came home from college later than everyone else so I cut a deal with my parents to let me just grind poker online all day because I had played a bunch at school and I was pretty profitable.

I was 4 tabling $2/$4 LHE and doing $20 buyin NLHE SNGs for like 10 hours a day becauss I didn't want the massive variances of NLHE or the potential poor ROI of tournaments and it was miserable. I gained like 25 pounds.

This same thing happened to me except I was paying Blizzard $15/mo and was a tauren druid

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.
The "Pretty Good" about Poker and online Poker is really well done and you should all go watch it



Link for the lazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTUZ2SrSxsA

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Hell we had that one dude in PITR who started with $0 and at one point was making 50k a day

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

Amy Pole Her posted:

Hell we had that one dude in PITR who started with $0 and at one point was making 50k a day
I don't remember his SA handle but was it Vivek Rajkumar? I know he was a PITR regular back in the day before hitting it big as a poker pro

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Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/the-steele-dossier-on-trump-is-looking-more-and-more-real.html

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