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Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.

Ohthehugemanatee posted:

We're the rarest of the rare. I wouldn't worry about it. It used to be FNPs got hired everywhere and in the last few years I've started to see them essentially blocked from inpatient work because it's just too much of a crapshoot as to if they can hack it. There's a huge demand for inpatient trained providers and it's basically just us vs the PAs.


Careful there - ACNP does not prepare you to work in the ED. I could do ICU easily but there's so much god drat family medicine in the ED that we really aren't good providers for that. The ED also doesn't screen out kids and pregnant women so you straight up have next to zero training for a not-insignificant chunk of your population. If I wanted to go to the ED I'd have to go pick up an FNP degree before I felt remotely comfortable.

EDIT: Oops, misread that you want to work there as a nurse. Carry on...

Still good advice! Yeah my plan is to definitely work for a few years to see what I like and to get experience. Then I'll go from there. Good god, I got an extra hour of sleep this morning and feel worse than when I wake up at 0430 for clinicals. Is that what the rest of my life is going to be like?

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amethystbliss
Jan 17, 2006

Yesssss, I just got my first job offer at my dream hospital/unit!

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum
This is a warning to all mursing students: no mater how outrageously goony you act, volunteering to be a frosh leader will lead to uncomfortable amounts of being groped by your fellow students. That is all.

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.

amethystbliss posted:

Yesssss, I just got my first job offer at my dream hospital/unit!

Details!

Also, did anyone use the Lacharity - Prioritization, Delegation, and Assignment book to study for the NCLEX? We're assigned random chapters for an EBP class I have, and so far on the two I've taken I'm doing... very poorly. The rationalizations make sense and are helping, but its a bit concerning still. I found some scores on allnurses and most people seem to score similarly to what I have been doing. In my last semester, so NCLEX reality is starting to sink in.

Condoleezza Nice!
Jan 4, 2010

Lite som Robin Hood
fast inte

Nine of Eight posted:

This is a warning to all mursing students: no mater how outrageously goony you act, volunteering to be a frosh leader will lead to uncomfortable amounts of being groped by your fellow students. That is all.

I'm a new nursing student. Details.

amethystbliss
Jan 17, 2006

I've been hired on the birthing unit of a big city hospital that sees its fair share of addiction, CPS involvement, etc. My background is in psych, but I also really love maternity nursing and this particular unit will allow me to do both simultaneously. The hiring manager loved the idea of hiring someone with a psych background, and is happy to work around my psych NP school obligations. And the pay is awesome, so I'm thrilled!

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Nine of Eight posted:

This is a warning to all mursing students: no mater how outrageously goony you act, volunteering to be a frosh leader will lead to uncomfortable amounts of being groped by your fellow students. That is all.

i cant tell if this post is filled with typos or unfamiliar jargon

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty
I don't know what a Frosh is, but I served on my nursing school's student government and never got groped once. I think I got ripped off.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

Nine of Eight posted:

This is a warning to all mursing students: no mater how outrageously goony you act, volunteering to be a frosh leader will lead to uncomfortable amounts of being groped by your fellow students. That is all.

Holy poo poo do I hate that word. It's on the same level as preggers.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011
Basically. I'm a nurse, end of story.

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.
I'm pretty sure frosh = freshman. But I'm not sure what a frosh leader is.

amethystbliss posted:

I've been hired on the birthing unit of a big city hospital that sees its fair share of addiction, CPS involvement, etc. My background is in psych, but I also really love maternity nursing and this particular unit will allow me to do both simultaneously. The hiring manager loved the idea of hiring someone with a psych background, and is happy to work around my psych NP school obligations. And the pay is awesome, so I'm thrilled!

Thats awesome! Congrats. Hope to have a similar story in the next few months :).

Condoleezza Nice!
Jan 4, 2010

Lite som Robin Hood
fast inte

Hughmoris posted:

Holy poo poo do I hate that word. It's on the same level as preggers.

Wait, it was mursing student? DISAPPOINTED

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum
The mursing thing was a joke, I hate the word too.
I was gonna say that I was really surprised that y'all are not familiar with the concept of a frosh week, but I guess the fact that new students are generally not of drinking age in the US would put a damper on that. The internet seems to think it's derived from Freshman and a german word for frog.

In Canadian universities, Frosh week is generally a week of new student orientations and activities, along with the encouragement to engage in mildly embarrassing tasks and drinking lots. Older students volunteer to guide the newer ones through all of this and rowdy behaviour tends to happen easily, especially in cities like Montreal where there are 5+ universities holding these events at the same time.

djfooboo
Oct 16, 2004




Murse is a plague upon the land. Thanks Fockers.

Yeet
Nov 18, 2005

- WE.IGE -
I'm about to pull the trigger on a RN program through my community college. I'm pretty psyched for it but I'm a little worried about the PAX Exam. The advisor I had told me it was basically like the ACT. I looked into some practice tests and study guides and I'm pretty good with math and the reading/verbal part, but chemistry and geometry...I literally failed chemistry at the same community college 10 years ago.

I obviously care more now and feel like if I studied hard and applied myself I'll do a lot better but the fact is I still suck at chemistry. Do RNs really use that much chemistry and geometry? I don't want to study hard for the grade without really learning anything only to become an RN and deal with something I'm innately terrible at.

B-Mac
Apr 21, 2003
I'll never catch "the gay"!

Yeet posted:

I'm about to pull the trigger on a RN program through my community college. I'm pretty psyched for it but I'm a little worried about the PAX Exam. The advisor I had told me it was basically like the ACT. I looked into some practice tests and study guides and I'm pretty good with math and the reading/verbal part, but chemistry and geometry...I literally failed chemistry at the same community college 10 years ago.

I obviously care more now and feel like if I studied hard and applied myself I'll do a lot better but the fact is I still suck at chemistry. Do RNs really use that much chemistry and geometry? I don't want to study hard for the grade without really learning anything only to become an RN and deal with something I'm innately terrible at.

If it is anything like the TEAS test I wouldn't stress about it too much.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Nine of Eight posted:

The mursing thing was a joke, I hate the word too.
I was gonna say that I was really surprised that y'all are not familiar with the concept of a frosh week, but I guess the fact that new students are generally not of drinking age in the US would put a damper on that. The internet seems to think it's derived from Freshman and a german word for frog.

In Canadian universities, Frosh week is generally a week of new student orientations and activities, along with the encouragement to engage in mildly embarrassing tasks and drinking lots. Older students volunteer to guide the newer ones through all of this and rowdy behaviour tends to happen easily, especially in cities like Montreal where there are 5+ universities holding these events at the same time.

im 30

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum

I'll abstain from making a "daddy issues" joke :forkbomb:. For all of you in school, remember to socialise and make friends, it's always good to have someone supporting your mental health throughout the next few years.

The Nursing Leadership course I'm taking this semester is pretty depressing in a way rather similar to when I was in political science: Here's all these ideal and cool things nursing leadership could improve! Here's what the government/healthcare field is doing instead! Good luck future generation!

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Nine of Eight posted:

I'll abstain from making a "daddy issues" joke :forkbomb:. For all of you in school, remember to socialise and make friends, it's always good to have someone supporting your mental health throughout the next few years.

The Nursing Leadership course I'm taking this semester is pretty depressing in a way rather similar to when I was in political science: Here's all these ideal and cool things nursing leadership could improve! Here's what the government/healthcare field is doing instead! Good luck future generation!

Really? My nursing leadership class is: Nursing needs to be even more focused on customer experience! Here's ways to encourage your team to make customer satisfaction a priority! Here's information on working through conflicts when your team members push back against ideas from Leadership! Remember, senior leadership in hospitals have extensive experience in fields such as customer relations, brand messaging, and managing budget to increase returns, so trust them to make informed and considerate decisions in your field! Good leadership is open to hearing new ideas for ways to improve from service level employees, but good employees listen and understand to rationale if an idea isn't feasible to implement.

Also, here's a bunch of poo poo on PICO and Nursing Research because gently caress You.

Etrips
Nov 9, 2004

Having Teemo Problems?
I Feel Bad For You, Son.
I Got 99 Shrooms
And You Just Hit One.
I graduated with an associate's in nursing because it was cheap as poo poo and I could pay out of pocket without incurring any debt. It gave me the meat and potatoes of nursing with one or two arbitrary classes on the side. Now I am doing my BSN because my hospital is paying for it (yay debt free education!) and it just makes me mad that I am wasting time / money / resources taking classes like nursing leadership and theory which is all a bunch of bullshit that in the end will net me a $0 pay increase. I guess it would be good if I ever wanted to actually get into management, but screw hospital politics.

edit: Also all the papers that I am writing only get dinged on points for grammatical errors / APA format, not on actual content :wtc:.

Etrips fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Aug 29, 2016

B-Mac
Apr 21, 2003
I'll never catch "the gay"!

Etrips posted:

I graduated with an associate's in nursing because it was cheap as poo poo and I could pay out of pocket without incurring any debt. It gave me the meat and potatoes of nursing with one or two arbitrary classes on the side. Now I am doing my BSN because my hospital is paying for it (yay debt free education!) and it just makes me mad that I am wasting time / money / resources taking classes like nursing leadership and theory which is all a bunch of bullshit that in the end will net me a $0 pay increase. I guess it would be good if I ever wanted to actually get into management, but screw hospital politics.

edit: Also all the papers that I am writing only get dinged on points for grammatical errors / APA format, not on actual content :wtc:.

Are you me? Essentially the and thing here. Between GI Bill and work my ADN to BSN was free but holy poo poo most of the classes were worthless. Genetics and pharm were on because I actually learned some science behind stuff. My papers got dinged only for APA formatting, never content.

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.

Etrips posted:


edit: Also all the papers that I am writing only get dinged on points for grammatical errors / APA format, not on actual content :wtc:.

Same. In my EBP class over the summer, I missed 5 points out of a total of 298. 2 were stupid quiz questions, and the other 3 were APA points. If I'm not required to do APA-style charting when I'm working, I'm going to be so pissed I learned it all for the last decade of my life (previous degree too).

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum

Annath posted:

Really? My nursing leadership class is: Nursing needs to be even more focused on customer experience! Here's ways to encourage your team to make customer satisfaction a priority! Here's information on working through conflicts when your team members push back against ideas from Leadership! Remember, senior leadership in hospitals have extensive experience in fields such as customer relations, brand messaging, and managing budget to increase returns, so trust them to make informed and considerate decisions in your field! Good leadership is open to hearing new ideas for ways to improve from service level employees, but good employees listen and understand to rationale if an idea isn't feasible to implement.

Also, here's a bunch of poo poo on PICO and Nursing Research because gently caress You.

When you live in a country where the government owns all the Hospitals, customer experience is somewhat less of a priority. What are they gonna do, stop paying taxes? Here senior leadership just fucks everything up because Doctor compensation was raised to be the highest in Canada when we're the cheapest province to live in and then the government cut everything else to compensate :psyduck:

Roki B
Jul 25, 2004


Medical Industrial Complex


Biscuit Hider
Haha your school indoctrinated docile workers lolololol. Where was this?

Koivunen
Oct 7, 2011

there's definitely no logic
to human behaviour
Our leadership class was about how we need to trust ourselves to make the right decision. Also not to be afraid to speak up if we have ideas or see something that needs to be changed. We got a few opportunities to do things with the union as well as nursing students.

North v South.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
visited an autopsy today because of school.
during the entire procedure i was pretty focused, took in everything. nothing really bothered me except for the slightly rotten smell.
but since then i've had images of open ribcages in my head.

just wondering who actually digs this poo poo, it's pretty far from what you'd think nurses would do, which is helping sick people, but maybe it serves a point somehow?

give me your input please :cripes:

Condoleezza Nice!
Jan 4, 2010

Lite som Robin Hood
fast inte
Seeing the anatomy 'in the flesh' as it were? :v:
I got nothin'

Roki B
Jul 25, 2004


Medical Industrial Complex


Biscuit Hider
Being able to visually understand where structures are located is important for caring for humans comprised of those structures?

Are you actually confused as to the value of anatomy lessons for a future in medicine?

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
nah, it's just that surgical procedures is pretty far from what i imagined i'd do.
mostly just mildly freaked out

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
That's normal for probably the first couple of times being around it. I saw an organ procurement case early on and that was pretty wild.

Koivunen
Oct 7, 2011

there's definitely no logic
to human behaviour
Working for the ME is my dream retirement job. No sass from patients and no family drama, just slice and dice.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Koivunen posted:

Working for the ME is my dream retirement job. No sass from patients and no family drama, just slice and dice.
OPO wouldn't be awful, even with some of that family drama. It'd be interesting at least.

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.
what are these acronyms!

I posted in the HC Workers thread but I was offered a residency/immersion opportunity in the Obs department at a L1 trauma center near me. I'm super excited. Especially because our group was given a whopping 0 ED days for our complex care clinicals and thats where I'm most interested in ending up. Obs will be an awesome opportunity in that regard!

Battered Cankles
May 7, 2008

We're engaged!
Obs is an observation unit, for when 'acute' is 'sorta'. ED is emergency department. Level 1 trauma center means ED is semi serious.

I work cardiac OR, open sternotomy 3 to 5 days a week. You get used to things, but stab phlebotomy still disturbs me. So do guillotine amputations.

The county MEs office is in an adjacent building. They have an opening currently, $16/hr, high school diploma, some anatomy knowledge desired. Ymmv

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013

Etrips posted:

I graduated with an associate's in nursing because it was cheap as poo poo and I could pay out of pocket without incurring any debt. It gave me the meat and potatoes of nursing with one or two arbitrary classes on the side. Now I am doing my BSN because my hospital is paying for it (yay debt free education!) and it just makes me mad that I am wasting time / money / resources taking classes like nursing leadership and theory which is all a bunch of bullshit that in the end will net me a $0 pay increase. I guess it would be good if I ever wanted to actually get into management, but screw hospital politics.

edit: Also all the papers that I am writing only get dinged on points for grammatical errors / APA format, not on actual content :wtc:.

Is it common for hospitals to reimburse for tuition? I'm looking at entering either an associates or accelerated bachelors program soon and I'm wondering if it would just be better to take on the debt and knock out the BSN in a year and a half rather than spend two years getting an ADN and then earning my BSN later.

Etrips
Nov 9, 2004

Having Teemo Problems?
I Feel Bad For You, Son.
I Got 99 Shrooms
And You Just Hit One.

tofes posted:

Is it common for hospitals to reimburse for tuition? I'm looking at entering either an associates or accelerated bachelors program soon and I'm wondering if it would just be better to take on the debt and knock out the BSN in a year and a half rather than spend two years getting an ADN and then earning my BSN later.

Usually they offer some sort of reimbursement because they want people to have their BSNs. Now I've only worked at two hospitals, and they had two wildly different contracts for reimbursement. My first gig I had would pay for up to $5,000 / year but once you finished school you would be tied to that hospital for two years. The current place I'm at offers $6,000 / year and requires no contract. :iiam:

B-Mac
Apr 21, 2003
I'll never catch "the gay"!

Etrips posted:

Usually they offer some sort of reimbursement because they want people to have their BSNs. Now I've only worked at two hospitals, and they had two wildly different contracts for reimbursement. My first gig I had would pay for up to $5,000 / year but once you finished school you would be tied to that hospital for two years. The current place I'm at offers $6,000 / year and requires no contract. :iiam:

My hospital is a whopping $2500 per year! It's pathetic.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

B-Mac posted:

My hospital is a whopping $2500 per year! It's pathetic.

Yeah, my hospital offers $2500/year for BSN and $3500/year for a graduate degree. Maybe I can stretch my Masters over 10 years.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Hughmoris posted:

Yeah, my hospital offers $2500/year for BSN and $3500/year for a graduate degree. Maybe I can stretch my Masters over 10 years.
Honestly you're probably better off going to a university that gives good tuition benefits for teaching clinicals and doing that instead of working.

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somnolence
Sep 29, 2011

Wild Horses posted:

visited an autopsy today because of school.
during the entire procedure i was pretty focused, took in everything. nothing really bothered me except for the slightly rotten smell.
but since then i've had images of open ribcages in my head.

just wondering who actually digs this poo poo, it's pretty far from what you'd think nurses would do, which is helping sick people, but maybe it serves a point somehow?

give me your input please :cripes:

It is a far cry from what nurses do. The closest thing you'd do is end of life care for someone who's deceased.

As Roki B said, it was likely a lesson in anatomy or to enlighten you in the different aspects of what happens to our dead patients.

Open ribcages are cool as poo poo. I remember the first time I saw a sternotomy saw in use. The whole OR smelled like burnt bone afterwards. Also, open cardiac massage is also cool as hell.

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