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Kvlt! posted:Not as colorful as this one, but maybe my personal favorite horror movie The Abominable Dr Phibes? What do you think about Dr. Phibes Rises Again?
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Aug 8, 2016 03:10
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That's one of my favorite films as well. For best Vincent Price performance I'd probably go with Masque of the Red Death. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What do you think about Dr. Phibes Rises Again? I actually have not seen this for like 20+ years and I should hunt it down.
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Aug 8, 2016 03:14
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Howl was decent. The dialogue and supporting cast was pretty bad. Then again, so were all of the werewolves except the first.
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Aug 8, 2016 03:31
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What do you think about Dr. Phibes Rises Again? I actually haven't seen it yet, but I'll watch it and report back.
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Aug 8, 2016 03:40
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It's really hard to find really good werewolf films that's been made recently.
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Aug 8, 2016 03:51
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I just rewatched Bad Moon recently and it's really fun and ridiculously gory. Directed and adapted for the screen by the fella who wrote Near Dark and The Hitcher so despite the 90s sheen, there is randomly some grindhouse levels of gore. Pretty great looking werewolf outside of one life alteringly bad cgi transformation. 1996 bad CGI so be prepared.
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Aug 8, 2016 04:18
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Glamorama26 posted:I just rewatched Bad Moon recently and it's really fun and ridiculously gory. Directed and adapted for the screen by the fella who wrote Near Dark and The Hitcher so despite the 90s sheen, there is randomly some grindhouse levels of gore. Just got done watching it myself. The werewolf was excellent, easily top 5 I have ever seen. The acting and general feel of the movie was pretty campy though, and the end came too abrupt. Thor, the German Shepherd, made the movie.
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Aug 8, 2016 04:58
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Hollismason posted:It's really hard to find really good werewolf films that's been made recently. Are you a fan of the Underworld series? I have always been. Can't wait for Underworld: Blood Wars that is slated for next year as well as Underworld 6. Both will star Kate Beckinsdale, but Underworld 6 will be directed by Underworld 1 & 2 director, Len Wiseman.
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Aug 8, 2016 05:03
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Dr. Phibes Rises Again is real good. There are no bad Vincent Price movies really. Witchfinder General and Theater of Blood are my favorites. Edit: oh, and House of Wax, which also fits colorful horror movie chat Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Aug 8, 2016 |
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Aug 8, 2016 05:19
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I forgot to mention that the werewolf from Waxwork is top tier werewolf'in. He just destroys people including one guy who briefly looks like Tom Delonge before being decimated.
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Aug 8, 2016 05:32
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I want to see a movie about an astronaut who gets bitten by a wolf with lycanthropy. The day after he's bitten, he goes on a lunar mission to a base that orbits the moon at a trajectory that always follows the light side, so he'll just be in werewolf form forever.
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Aug 8, 2016 11:28
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sticklefifer posted:I want to see a movie about an astronaut who gets bitten by a wolf with lycanthropy. The day after he's bitten, he goes on a lunar mission to a base that orbits the moon at a trajectory that always follows the light side, so he'll just be in werewolf form forever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2yWqyolDVg 
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Aug 8, 2016 13:38
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ObamaPhone posted:Romero's Crazies is like NOTLD minus zombies and any type of meaningful political commentary whatsoever. Saying that Romero's Crazies has no meaningful political commentary is like saying Evil Dead II has no meaningful amount of blood in it. 
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Aug 8, 2016 14:49
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I've seen a lot of Vincent Price movies over the past few months and none of them are bad, the guy just made a ton of really solid movies. Its tough to pick a favorite, especially if we're talking about specifically Price's performance. He was so consistent and never allowed the quality of the material to effect his own work. The best overall films starring Price are definitely the ones where the material is strong enough to stand up to his performance though. Witchfinder General and The Masque of the Red Death are the two that really stood out to me in my recent Price phase.
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Aug 8, 2016 15:31
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InfiniteZero posted:Saying that Romero's Crazies has no meaningful political commentary is like saying Evil Dead II has no meaningful amount of blood in it. To be fair, that isn't a meaningful amount of blood. It's just a lot of blood. Past a certain point anything loses its meaning.
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Aug 8, 2016 15:35
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Basebf555 posted:I've seen a lot of Vincent Price movies over the past few months and none of them are bad, the guy just made a ton of really solid movies. Its tough to pick a favorite, especially if we're talking about specifically Price's performance. He was so consistent and never allowed the quality of the material to effect his own work. Yeah he still is able to consistently impress me. Like, a couple Halloweens ago I finally got around to watching Tomb of Ligea, which he just kills it in.
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Aug 8, 2016 16:05
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Over the weekend the topic of Thrillers vs. Horror movies came up when we watched the Invitation. Basically a few involved parties really liked the movie, but insisted it was a thriller rather than a horror movie. We started talking about what the difference between those genres were, and couldn't really come to a good conclusion. I'm not sure I would have engaged so deeply with such a semantic argument, but one point that came up was that they would never have even watched the movie if they though it was horror, so perhaps they should rethink what they consider a horror movie in the future so they get exposed to more movies. To me "thriller" seems like a newer less well defined genre term that actually mashes together horror, crime, and pure mystery movies into one. The defining feature of the entire genre seems to be the use of tension/suspense, which frankly tons of different movies have. Something like The Invitation falls more on the horror spectrum, where as something like Gone Girl falls more towards pure mystery, although I think both movies do have elements from each. At one point in the conversation I brought up intent to frighten as a possible main difference, but I'm still not sure about that, since it relies solely on authorial intent. I do remember that this thread at one point had quite a detailed discussion about this topic. I couldn't remember any of it sadly, but I imagine some good points were made. Did we ever reach a consensus about the topic?
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Aug 8, 2016 17:01
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I think everyone was just a thriller is a film with human antagonists , it has a mystery, and it's goal is to create tension through suspense. It's usually signified by the protagonist trying to solve a underlying mystery. A good example would be the giallo genre it pretty much straddles the line of thriller and horror films but what pushes it into horror is the graphic depictions of violence and the elaborate death sequences. Like Rear Window is a thriller but Psycho is a horror film. One of the key differences is graphic elaborate deaths and if it has any supernatural events. It's also a one way street , horror films can have suspense but thrillers can't have horror. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Aug 8, 2016 |
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Aug 8, 2016 17:11
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Basebf555 posted:I've seen a lot of Vincent Price movies over the past few months and none of them are bad, the guy just made a ton of really solid movies. Its tough to pick a favorite, especially if we're talking about specifically Price's performance. He was so consistent and never allowed the quality of the material to effect his own work. My favorite is Theater of Blood.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:20
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InfiniteZero posted:Saying that Romero's Crazies has no meaningful political commentary is like saying Evil Dead II has no meaningful amount of blood in it. That's not blood, it's karo syrup!
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Aug 8, 2016 17:22
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In a thriller people talk about the skeleton but in a horror the skeleton talks to the people.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:24
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There's like a poo poo ton of zombies in Thriller, though.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:36
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ObamaPhone posted:That's not blood, it's karo syrup! I think, due to the volume of blood and the speed they needed it to pour, they had to use dyed water or some type of theatrical blood. I'd say dyed water, because execs had a problem with them using a large amount of realistic blood, hence the cartoony red, green, black, etc.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:38
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Is Lost Highway a horror movie or a thriller?
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Aug 8, 2016 17:40
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It's a David Lynch movie
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Aug 8, 2016 17:41
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Hollismason posted:I think everyone was just a thriller is a film with human antagonists , it has a mystery, and it's goal is to create tension through suspense. It's usually signified by the protagonist trying to solve a underlying mystery. Hmm. By this definition The Invitation is a thriller and Gone Girl is a horror considering the depiction of violence in each. By gut instinct I would have said the exact opposite. Does Sixth Sense's supernatural elements make it a horror then? That movie got brought up, and we all actually felt it was a thriller. Hollismason posted:It's also a one way street , horror films can have suspense but thrillers can't have horror. In this sentence horror = supernatural elements & graphic depiction of violence?
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Aug 8, 2016 17:43
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Megasabin posted:Over the weekend the topic of Thrillers vs. Horror movies came up when we watched the Invitation. Basically a few involved parties really liked the movie, but insisted it was a thriller rather than a horror movie. We started talking about what the difference between those genres were, and couldn't really come to a good conclusion. I'm not sure I would have engaged so deeply with such a semantic argument, but one point that came up was that they would never have even watched the movie if they though it was horror, so perhaps they should rethink what they consider a horror movie in the future so they get exposed to more movies. The best description I've heard for the distinction between horror and thriller is that just how a country song that's "good enough" becomes a folk song, a horror film that's "good enough" becomes a thriller. A lot of the distinction comes from a misguided attempt to divide art into highbrow and lowbrow, when such distinction is unnecessary. The Invitation is a straight horror film, but it's arty enough that some will "elevate" it to the level of being a thriller instead of a horror movie. I think thrillers are a real genre, for something like The Game where there's a lot of tension but no actual scary scenes or horror imagery such as ghosts or Draculas. The line tends to get blurred around something like Manhunter, which features horror imagery and a serial killer, but is more played as a crime procedural than a horror film.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:56
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Well thanks to all the press it's been getting in this topic I sat down and watched Society last night. That was really something. I'm not sure what the gently caress I just watched but it was definitely something. At least now I know where Hector Beerlioz's avatar came from.
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Aug 8, 2016 18:44
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Franchescanado posted:I think, due to the volume of blood and the speed they needed it to pour, they had to use dyed water or some type of theatrical blood. I'd say dyed water, because execs had a problem with them using a large amount of realistic blood, hence the cartoony red, green, black, etc. You make a good point. Karo syrup is a lot thicker than water and would probably cost way more than the budget of either Evil Dead 1 or 2 would allow. I would love a good thread about the various types of fake blood used in movies stretching from the dawn of colorized to now.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:11
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No they used Karo syrup for sure for the first film and they usually mixed it with dye and some water. I think that Night of the Living Dead if I remember correctly used melted grape jelly.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:19
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morestuff posted:It's a David Lynch movie I'd say all David Lynch movies are horror movies. This includes A Straight Story.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:31
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ObamaPhone posted:You make a good point. It's straight from the DVD commentary and the Evil Dead Companion. It was also a safety hazard, because they were literally pouring it on Bruce and his stunt doubles, so a liquid too thick and you've got a dead actor. Hollismason posted:No they used Karo syrup for sure for the first film and they usually mixed it with dye and some water. Correct. First movie all they could afford was Karo syrup and Alpo dog food. They talk about how the best way to test Karo blood is to throw it on a white surface and see how it runs, which is why there's a few shots of blood hitting white fabric surfaces in the first movie. Bruce Campbell had to ride home in the back of pick up truck (during autumn/winter) all the way into town, covered in syrup and dog food, smelling like poo poo, bruised from Raimi's beatings, and would have to tear the clothes off his skin. I dunno about grape jelly, but I do know that NotLD also used real meat/butcher's scraps , and I feel like they stole Hitchcock's Chocolate Syrup Blood technique from Psycho as well.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:40
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John Carl Buechler did some amazing things with industrial food thickeners. His beard dye job makes me laugh like an idiot as well. Bless that guy.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:50
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I want to say NOTLD used Bosco for the blood, but I'm not 100% on that.
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Aug 8, 2016 20:02
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There's some story regarding grape jelly and NOLD , I'm almost sure of it.
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Aug 8, 2016 20:36
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Megasabin posted:In this sentence horror = supernatural elements & graphic depiction of violence? If you go looking too hard to categorize films, you'll end up (as I suggested quite a few pages back) like certain heavy metal fans who spend a lot of time categorizing bands into categories like "proto-pagan melodic funeral death metal" and poo poo like that or even more hilariously an album will show up and fans will deem it "unmetal" or whatever.  These guys love metal and advanced sub-categorization. Once again I would also like to state for the record that I love a lot of metal and metal fans and don't intend to offend.
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Aug 8, 2016 20:43
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A page late, but my memory of Tideland was that it was one of the worst things I'd ever seen. Not in the good way. I remember it feeling utterly joyless and a chore. My version of it has Gilliam at the beginning saying "some of you will like this, some of you will hate it" and basically begging you to give it a chance and like it.
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Aug 8, 2016 21:00
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I wish more films opened with the announcer guy from Frankenstein. "Hey, just so you know, this film's pretty scary. Bet you can't handle it, you wuss."
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Aug 8, 2016 21:22
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A bit more on the werewolf topic a couple pages ago... It's a shame that John Landis didn't go onto direct other horror movies after An American Werewolf in London. I read his Wiki page that detailed the death of three people (including 2 kids) during a helicopter crash on the set of Twilight Zone: The Movie. Apparently, this stunted his directing career to a huge degree. The only other horror material that is accredited to Landis is his work on Michael Jackson's "Thriller" music video, which while classic, is nothing compared to the director's untapped potential.
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Aug 8, 2016 21:23
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ObamaPhone posted:A bit more on the werewolf topic a couple pages ago... He did several episodes of Masters of Horror, so...
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