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BonHair posted:As mentioned, Gibson heads just snap occasionally because of the amazingly terribly designed joint. There's just not a lot of wood between neck and head, with the truss rod and all, and there's a lot of tension from the strings. As far as I have seen, the best option is to IIRC they tried a slightly different design and angle for a bit that reduced snapping somewhat but everyone hated it because it was different so they said "gently caress it" and went back.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 13:14 |
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Kazinsal posted:IIRC they tried a slightly different design and angle for a bit that reduced snapping somewhat but everyone hated it because it was different so they said "gently caress it" and went back. It affected tone! It doesn't, and Epiphone and everyone else uses the non-snappy design. Gibson has blues lawyers as a core demographic though, so change is inherently bad.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 13:21 |
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I have an Epiphone 339 that I repaired a headstock break on. So they can break but it was probably from shipping damage as it was in a dumpster and still had all the plastic and stuff on the plastic bits. If it pops again I'll spline it but it's holding together for now.
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BonHair posted:As mentioned, Gibson heads just snap occasionally because of the amazingly terribly designed joint. There's just not a lot of wood between neck and head, with the truss rod and all, and there's a lot of tension from the strings. As far as I have seen, the best option is to According to a story I heard from an old teacher that was supposedly told by Pete Townsend’s late guitar tech, Townsend switched to Gibson for a while in part because the neck joint broke cleaner/more spectacularly when he smashed them on stage. But then eventually he switched back to Fender because the guitars were less reliable to tune and set up, and just stopped smashing them during every show. Also if you go into the comments on pretty much every video about the subject of Gibson necks you’ll see people ragging on Billy Joe Armstrong for apparently infamously failing to break a LP in one swing, and comparing him to “the chad Paul Simonon” who could make breaking a P Bass look good and easy.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 14:56 |
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Are there any good precautions to take for Gibson headstocks? I leave mine in the case or in a rack. I don't mind wear but this sort of thing terrifies me.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 15:31 |
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If I had one I was going to leave in the case for any amount of time, I'd probably detune it every time I put it away.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 15:36 |
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Don't drop it on its back. It's funny how Martin has used the same design on their headstocks for ages but I guess nobody expects an acoustic to survive falling off the stage or whatever.
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syntaxfunction posted:Are there any good precautions to take for Gibson headstocks? I leave mine in the case or in a rack. I don't mind wear but this sort of thing terrifies me. Just don't drop it. It won't spontaneously combust (as some seem to imply), but it is more susceptible to shock than your average headstock.
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syntaxfunction posted:Are there any good precautions to take for Gibson headstocks? I leave mine in the case or in a rack. I don't mind wear but this sort of thing terrifies me. Regular strings, tune to C# standard. Also buy an ESP. (These are comedy suggestions)
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 17:53 |
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Break the headstock off and glue it back on. Sell it and buy a Fender.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 18:02 |
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I have two Fenders and I tune the Gibson to B Standard on 10s, is that alright? Am I doing this right? Fenders are cool, but I don't get the thrill of an absurdly overpriced guitar randomly exploding like a Gibson. Like they say: Only a Gibson is good enough!
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 18:55 |
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I hosed up and bought this instead of a Tele I'm sorry I let you all down.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 19:08 |
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It's okay, you'll get it right next time.
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BDA posted:Gibson had a few bolt-on models in the late 70s/early 80s (Sonex, Marauder, etc.) but other than that virtually all of their models have set necks. Funny you mention this, I had an 83 sonex with a snapped headstock right at the joint under the nut. It has the smile crack all the way around the backside but not actually separated. Supposedly it was fixed by a tech but I bought it for $200 and it played fine.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 19:26 |
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I have a tele I love and am borrowing Dad's LP for a bit. I love the sound but don't actually love the form/weight of a LP. Will just anything in the Fender/Squire lineup with a humbucker produce basically the same sound? Is there one body type in particular that's like, "Here is Fender's LP."
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mango sentinel posted:I hosed up and bought this instead of a Tele I'm sorry I let you all down. That's not a tele. But it's awesome! I love the colour, and, as I've mentioned twice today, ESP is the way to go if you want a Gibson that's actually good. What's the electronics like, passives or actives?
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Huxley posted:I have a tele I love and am borrowing Dad's LP for a bit. I love the sound but don't actually love the form/weight of a LP. Closest thing body wise would probably be a tele deluxe. It'll still sound different due to different scale, bridge, pickups, and neck joint among other things. Maybe try out a LP Jr if you want a lighter LP they don't have a maple cap weighing them down.
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BonHair posted:As mentioned, Gibson heads just snap occasionally because of the amazingly terribly designed joint. There's just not a lot of wood between neck and head, with the truss rod and all, and there's a lot of tension from the strings. As far as I have seen, the best option is to okay, I'm going to give this a shot. might be too stupid to figure out how to cut the splints properly, but we'll see. thanks ya'll
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Huxley posted:I have a tele I love and am borrowing Dad's LP for a bit. I love the sound but don't actually love the form/weight of a LP. Gretsch?
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 20:46 |
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Ugh I can't make my mind about getting a MIM Jaguar, a Squier Classic Vibe Jaguar or the Shecter bigsby tele. Someone guide me please
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 21:04 |
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the problem in that sentence is using the conjunction "or" instead of "and"
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CHODEGOD420 posted:Ugh I can't make my mind about getting a MIM Jaguar, a Squier Classic Vibe Jaguar or the Shecter bigsby tele. Someone guide me please Which one is orange?
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Huxley posted:I have a tele I love and am borrowing Dad's LP for a bit. I love the sound but don't actually love the form/weight of a LP. Set neck, mahogany body with a maple cap, HH: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...rel-fingerboard Other options: Jim Root Tele, Squier Tornado.
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Ok Comboomer posted:Which one is orange? My 2004 squier tele "butterscotch"
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CHODEGOD420 posted:Ugh I can't make my mind about getting a MIM Jaguar, a Squier Classic Vibe Jaguar or the Shecter bigsby tele. Someone guide me please Wear tight pants and try them out. Whichever one gives you the biggest erection is the right one. Also the Bigsby tele. But jaguars give me analysis paralysis, so I'm biased that way. I really want a P bass with just a volume knob though, so if you like chasing tone, don't listen to me. BonHair fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Oops, Schecter ordered. First new guitar in 15 years lmao
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 21:27 |
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BonHair posted:That's not a tele. But it's awesome! I love the colour, and, as I've mentioned twice today, ESP is the way to go if you want a Gibson that's actually good. What's the electronics like, passives or actives? Seymour Duncan Sentient/Pegasus. The lower model has '59/JB which I would prefer but I'm not at a point playing where there's enough difference to hear. It's used but feels like a steal because it is under a year old and barely played. Allegedly the previous owner saw a holy grail amp at the shop and this was part of the trade in for it. Here's the quilting, it looks like dragon scales to me CHODEGOD420 posted:Ugh I can't make my mind about getting a MIM Jaguar, a Squier Classic Vibe Jaguar or the Shecter bigsby tele. Someone guide me please Get the bigsby Tele so I can point at it in ridicule.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 21:35 |
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Bigsby Tele, route a larger cavity in the bridge position, drop in a Filtertron. Comedy option: Danelectro lipstick pickup in the neck position.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 21:44 |
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mango sentinel posted:Seymour Duncan Sentient/Pegasus. The lower model has '59/JB which I would prefer but I'm not at a point playing where there's enough difference to hear. Hell yeah that's a sick buy.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 21:55 |
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Kazinsal posted:Bigsby Tele, route a larger cavity in the bridge position, drop in a Filtertron. Anyone got tips on adding a monkey grip
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 22:00 |
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That's a drat fine purple.
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 22:01 |
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TwoHeadedDeer posted:okay, I'm going to give this a shot. might be too stupid to figure out how to cut the splints properly, but we'll see. thanks ya'll Post some pics of the break
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 22:06 |
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jumbo frets? can i see the headstock
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 23:48 |
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I just ordered a Behringer SF300 as a late Xmas present to myself. Been listening to way too much crappy late 90s industrial rock (Orgy) and want that gross sound. Looking forward to running synths through it too!
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# ? Dec 29, 2020 23:59 |
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These days people use "modelling amp" that plug straight to USB to allow you to more easily record, is that right?
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# ? Dec 30, 2020 00:01 |
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Helianthus Annuus posted:jumbo frets? It's an LTD deluxe Viper-1000 Also the strings won't currently touch the fretboard.
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mango sentinel posted:It's an LTD deluxe Viper-1000 the website says 24 XJ. i guess that means extra jumbo? is that the biggest you can get without a custom shop order? ok, lets look at the website to see the headstock.... oh no, its got that fail rear end 3+3 gibson-style headstock! not the end of the world, but it means that the middle two strings will likely get bound up at the nut and give you tuning problems, due to the angle of the break at the nut. especially if you're trying to do bends on those strings. be sure to slather it in nut sauce (somehow thats the actual name for the lube you're supposed to use). and if you get sick of applying copious amounts of lube, the string butler is supposed to make the problem go away entirely.
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Cheese Thief posted:These days people use "modelling amp" that plug straight to USB to allow you to more easily record, is that right? ya that can be done, but people also mic their amps with multiple ,icrophones, and mix the signals together to achieve the desired tone
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# ? Dec 30, 2020 01:05 |
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BonHair posted:Gibson has blues lawyers as a core demographic though, so change is inherently bad. if you were thinking of asking "why do they keep making headstocks with problematic break angles if its a known problem?" this poster that i'm quoting has your answer
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# ? Dec 30, 2020 01:06 |
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I think the gibson-ish 3x3 headstock is one of the top 3 shapes (aesthetically) 😤 At least it doesn't have the stupid angle.
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