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Lostconfused posted:Going back to this for a second, I forgot this happened for a bit since it's not really emperor being told about it It’s a lie, like everything else the Chaos Gods told Horus. There are some brief descriptions of the abduction of the Primarchs in Valdor: Birth of the Imperium, and the Emperor wasn’t physically present for it at first. Edit: rereading, he was present - but still, it’s almost certainly a lie the Chaos Gods told Horus. Same with Argel Tal getting a vision of the scattering and thinking he’s the one that did it in The First Heretic. DAD LOST MY IPOD fucked around with this message at 22:31 on May 16, 2024 |
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Telsa Cola posted:I don't they ever out right explain how this actually fucks a lot of things up, but there are lines dropped here and there that imply/state that as a result of the heresy a lot of induction processes changed, like indoctrination, that meant that post heresy marines are kinda a breed apart from the pre-heresy ones. Yeah, my read on it is that all the poo poo they didn't used to do pre-heresey became the norm post-heresy. Some of the stuff mentioned in the Inductarii fluff gives me ideas for my homebrew chapter.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:It’s a lie, like everything else the Chaos Gods told Horus. There are some brief descriptions of the abduction of the Primarchs in Valdor: Birth of the Imperium, and the Emperor wasn’t physically present for it at first. Yes I cut out the part where Valdor confronts him first because it didn't seem relevant 
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May 16, 2024 23:04
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As Horus is walking around the primarch baby room there's a half dozen or so other people scuttling around in the shadows dealing with their own shenanigans just out of sight.
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May 16, 2024 23:54
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It’s like how Mary and Joseph had to find a manger because all the hotels were filled with rubbernecking time travelers.
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or how marty in back to the future 2 had to hide from his earlier self in the first movie and if they kept the movies going there'd be a dozen martys trying to avoid their earlier selves
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Lostconfused posted:Yes I cut out the part where Valdor confronts him first because it didn't seem relevant Well we know Valdor canonically arrived after the vortex had already happened (he says so in Birth of the Imperium), so that’s another data point towards “Chaos gods are liars.”
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Well we know Valdor canonically arrived after the vortex had already happened (he says so in Birth of the Imperium), so that’s another data point towards “Chaos gods are liars.” Yeah you're right, turns out I skipped over that part too, but that's how it goes down in False Gods. quote:The reflective surfaces of the tanks lit up as an actinic blue light appeared above them, and Horus looked up to see a blob of dirty light swirling into existence just below the ceiling. Like a miniature galaxy, it hung suspended above the silver incubation tanks, growing larger with every passing second. A powerful wind tugged at Horus and he hung onto the railing as a shrieking howl issued from the spreading vortex above him.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Yeah, my read on it is that all the poo poo they didn't used to do pre-heresey became the norm post-heresy. Some of the stuff mentioned in the Inductarii fluff gives me ideas for my homebrew chapter. I think this is a…not a retcon exactly, but more of an unnecessary explanation. They (Abnett? Or the editors as a group) decided to write more human and life-like marines for the Heresy, to emphasize how things were Different back then and also it would have been boring to read 70 books of HONOUR THE CHAPTER BROTHERS, the marines needed to be real characters.Then somewhere along the way someone decided to put in a lore explanation also. I’m not sure it holds up in practice though, (Obviously it varies by chapter, and the Iron Hands has a faction advocating turning the hypo-indoctrination machine wayyy up) But are ADB’s Spears or Guilliman’s various sidekicks really written as less human(ish) than the heresy-era marines?
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https://twitter.com/CGTester/status/1791479965193568446?t=Ab0_jZJJlItDVjrKnnAO_A&s=19
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Ahriman showing up in TEATD is probably the best B plot Although the astronomicon payoff over three books was incredible
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Partway through Only in Death. I'll only say that "Five Thirty-Seven" is an insanely good idea for a chapter.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/19/sunday-preview-the-dawnbringers-saga-ends-under-a-cloud-of-chaos/ Do you want some books? Of course ya do! Even if there's only like one new book. First up we have Darkoath: A Gunnar Brand Novel by Chris Thursten.  Available in the usual first release formats; hardback, eBook, and MP3 audiobook. Always a good sign when a book is just named after a faction as a whole. Then there's paperback version of Realmslayer: Legend of the Doomseeker by David Guymer.  And aside from two German translation releases that's it for upcoming releases.
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The narrator for the Fulgrim audiobook put on an incredible performance, I don't know how games-workshop managed to find someone like that. Too bad about the book thou.
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Black Library generally gets great narrators for everything. I’ve yet to hear anything from them that had bad narration.
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There's a couple of stinkers here and there. In particular, there's a DA Heresy book (so the badness is compounded) where the narrator is saying literally every single line, dialogue or descriptive, with the same, bored downward inflection. Not great. Edit: And I've already mentioned it but I think Brutal Kunnin is disappointing in terms of audio narration.
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Recommend me an audio book for a 10 hour round trip drive! I've finished the Heresy and Siege, and really enjoyed the Necrons stuff. Anyone got a favorite? I was looking at the Dark Coil stuff but it's not in audio unfortunately.
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Black Griffon posted:Edit: And I've already mentioned it but I think Brutal Kunnin is disappointing in terms of audio narration. I've also said this, but it's worth repeating- and worth doing over for BL, imo. In the same vein, though this is far more down to personal preference, I suspect: Harrowmaster, a great book, narrated by the VA who does Wyll in baldurs gate 3 (where I like him a lot), makes for an insanely annoying narrator, something about the tone he uses for half his characters just absolutely slaughters my goat
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LegionAreI posted:Recommend me an audio book for a 10 hour round trip drive! I've finished the Heresy and Siege, and really enjoyed the Necrons stuff. Anyone got a favorite? I was looking at the Dark Coil stuff but it's not in audio unfortunately. Orcs
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LegionAreI posted:Recommend me an audio book for a 10 hour round trip drive! I've finished the Heresy and Siege, and really enjoyed the Necrons stuff. Anyone got a favorite? I was looking at the Dark Coil stuff but it's not in audio unfortunately. If you liked the Twice Dead King Necron books, the Ghazkhul Thraka book is also by Mate Crowley and has a great audiobook. It really builds up how orks can be a threat without diminishing any of their goofy character, and the non-ork characters are pretty engaging, too.
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Khizan posted:Black Library generally gets great narrators for everything. I’ve yet to hear anything from them that had bad narration. The first Dawn of Fire novel has a really really bad audiobook IMHO, which is weird because the same narrator does a good job on other books
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LegionAreI posted:Recommend me an audio book for a 10 hour round trip drive! I've finished the Heresy and Siege, and really enjoyed the Necrons stuff. Anyone got a favorite? I was looking at the Dark Coil stuff but it's not in audio unfortunately. All of the Eisenhorn/Ravenor/Bequin books are really well done. The woman who narrates the Bequin books isn't quite as good at accent work as the guy who does the Eisenhorn and Ravenor entries (mostly her American accents), but it's a very, very minor quibble.
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FeculentWizardTits posted:All of the Eisenhorn/Ravenor/Bequin books are really well done. The woman who narrates the Bequin books isn't quite as good at accent work as the guy who does the Eisenhorn and Ravenor entries (mostly her American accents), but it's a very, very minor quibble. Going in, I was skeptical to see anything in the series done by anyone except the venerable Toby Longworth, but she won me over from chapter 1
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LegionAreI posted:Recommend me an audio book for a 10 hour round trip drive! I've finished the Heresy and Siege, and really enjoyed the Necrons stuff. Anyone got a favorite? I was looking at the Dark Coil stuff but it's not in audio unfortunately. Helsreach Soul Hunter (and the rest of the Night Lords trilogy)
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The story The Iron Star is the capstone to Only in Death. This is the most heartwarming the setting gets, really.
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FPyat posted:The story The Iron Star is the capstone to Only in Death. This is the most heartwarming the setting gets, really. Dunno, I think that "He's fething alive!" from Only in Death beats it out. Have you read The Victory arc yet for the Ghosts novels? They get pretty grim too but there's some great fist pumping moments. I reread Blood Pact last year and that book is seriously underrated in the Ghosts series.
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Khizan posted:Black Library generally gets great narrators for everything. I’ve yet to hear anything from them that had bad narration. When I started Eisenhorn I was put off by Toby Longworth's softer and less grandiose style after hearing 50 books of either Jonathan Keeble or John Banks, but a few chapters in I was totally sold and now a good chunk into book 2 I don't want to hear anyone but him do these characters
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LegionAreI posted:Recommend me an audio book for a 10 hour round trip drive! I've finished the Heresy and Siege, and really enjoyed the Necrons stuff. Anyone got a favorite? I was looking at the Dark Coil stuff but it's not in audio unfortunately. The Reverie does have an audiobook if you're looking for Dark Coil.
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CottonWolf posted:The Reverie does have an audiobook if you're looking for Dark Coil. You listen to it, then black out and find yourself at the nearest art gallery, with blood on your hands and no memory of the previous six months.
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Can't really recall any directly awful Warhammer audiobooks on the top of my head, but the Ciaphas Cain ones are good with their multiple narrators and then Emperor's Spears was another standout one.
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FeculentWizardTits posted:All of the Eisenhorn/Ravenor/Bequin books are really well done. The woman who narrates the Bequin books isn't quite as good at accent work as the guy who does the Eisenhorn and Ravenor entries (mostly her American accents), but it's a very, very minor quibble. I read these a million years ago but I think it's time for a refresh. Also she can't be worse than Keeble's American accent for Grammaticus. 
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I finished Echoes Of Eternity over the weekend and the hololith that gets sent up from the surface rules so hard: I am Shibhan Khan of the Fifth Legion, honored to currently hold the mantle of regent-commander of the Lion's Gate space port. I address this message to the fleet of treasonous dogs laying claim to the skies of Terra. You will find Lion's Gate's surface-to-orbit defenses are once again operational. Message ends. and the epilogue just being the message from Guilliman got me hyped. ADB is amazing.
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About halfway done with Eisenhorn 2 and am loving it. When they went to Cadia and met up with Fischig and went up to the Essene again I popped off, I love all these characters. The Kasrkin moving through the cultists at the pylon 1 shot 1 killing them all was rad as gently caress.
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Any first-person books other than Eisenhorn?
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FPyat posted:Any first-person books other than Eisenhorn? I think the Ciaphas Cain books are in first person. Don't have them on me to check however.
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Cain books are first person memoirs redacted by the inquisition. You can't possibly find a more dubious account of anything.
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Several of ADB's are. The Black Legion trilogy and Spears of the Emperor, IIRC. Also Abnett flexed hard by writing Horus' chapters in tEatD in second person perspective. Kylaer fucked around with this message at 18:13 on May 23, 2024 |
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Kylaer posted:Also Abnett flexed hard by writing Horus' chapters in tEatD in second person perspective. And it was utterly awesome.
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