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It’s Harley, so let’s not forget that those bikes will be a good $15k more than their competitors that they’re not quite as good as
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:It’s Harley, so let’s not forget that those bikes will be a good $15k more than their competitors that they’re not quite as good as True, but if you're already prepared to drop Diavel money on a bike, Harley tax isn't that much more of a stretch.
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Jul 30, 2018 18:15
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Finger Prince posted:True, but if you're already prepared to drop Diavel money on a bike, Harley tax isn't that much more of a stretch. The Z1000 is the nearest cheap alternative really.
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Jul 30, 2018 18:16
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Don't forget the Diavel is a power cruiser, not a streetfigher. The newer model even has forward controls by default. I guess it would have lined up against the V-Rod based models, but HD killed them off because purists shat on them for not being a "real" Harley
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Jul 30, 2018 18:24
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spandexcajun posted:I'm out of the Harley loop, what engine is that? Looks water cooled. Could be good? Torquey V twins are fun as hell. https://www.cycleworld.com/harley-davidson-to-build-adventure-motorcycles-streetfighters-and-electric-bicycles-following-2019#page-6 Says in the article they're developing two new engine platforms. One is the 500/750cc engine they put in the street bikes currently I think, the other is the new 975/1250cc liquid-cooled engine you see in the concept bikes. If the 975 manages to break 100hp, then I'll be impressed that HD is now only 25 years behind every other manufacturer.
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Jul 30, 2018 18:28
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It's all a matter of opinion, really. I think the hdADV looks hot, especially with that fairing. Still can't match up to a GS ir Strom, so what's the point. The muscle bike is too busy in design and doesn't really do it for me.
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Jul 30, 2018 19:06
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New motors, 60 degree v twins
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Jul 30, 2018 19:32
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Man that Harley ADV looks pretty interesting...
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Jul 30, 2018 20:12
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Jazzzzz posted:
I think both of these look great and provided they aren't too slow or terrible they'll sell heaps.
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Jul 30, 2018 20:34
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Jul 30, 2018 21:07
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yeah i think that both of those look pretty good, except for the front fairing on the ADV bike (too chunky) and the headlight on the streetfighter (too low). V-twins still have the best sound, and despite the shittacular demufflering of most harleys you hear on the road, they actually sound really good when they're stock. a modern liquid-cooled v-twin with a higher redline and a stock h-d exhaust would probably sound spectacular being pushed hard.
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Jul 30, 2018 21:14
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spandexcajun posted:I'm out of the Harley loop, what engine is that? Looks water cooled. Could be good? Torquey V twins are fun as hell. I assume it's the V-Rod engine. e: Oops, see below goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jul 30, 2018 |
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Jul 30, 2018 21:25
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A MIRACLE posted:New motors, 60 degree v twins Someone at Rotax is frantically stencilling HD logos over Aprilia ones in an Indiana Jones-sized warehouse somewhere near the Italian border.
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Jul 30, 2018 21:27
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There's a thermal detonator joke in here somewhere.
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Jul 30, 2018 21:50
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Sagebrush posted:yeah i think that both of those look pretty good, except for the front fairing on the ADV bike (too chunky) and the headlight on the streetfighter (too low). I think that headlight position is rad, reminds me a lot of the MT-01 or, naturally, the better looking sportsters.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:00
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That thing is hideous but that puts it in good company with all the best ADV bikes
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Jul 30, 2018 22:10
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Yeah, really; I can't remember the last time I saw good-looking ADV bike anyways.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:22
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captainOrbital posted:Yeah, really; I can't remember the last time I saw good-looking ADV bike anyways. 
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Jul 30, 2018 22:41
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Americano Double-shot Vehicles.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:53
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captainOrbital posted:Yeah, really; I can't remember the last time I saw good-looking ADV bike anyways. 
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Jul 31, 2018 01:05
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And then that one guy posts a Buell Ulysses, and we laaaaaaaughed!
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Jul 31, 2018 01:28
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Hmm... I feel liks this is a pretty last ditch effort by harley and im not sure this is the right direction. The adv is so ugly my god.
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Jul 31, 2018 05:14
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Voltage posted:Hmm... You couldn't crop the ad?
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No. 6 posted:You couldn't crop the ad? is that  ?
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Jul 31, 2018 05:25
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Voltage posted:Hmm... Why yes i do love my thighs extra crispy welldone.
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Jul 31, 2018 13:23
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The exhaust is ridiculous. Two brackets! sweet! Just like the gutters on my house.
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Jul 31, 2018 17:01
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 Ya'll are crazy. Here is an even better angle of this stunning motorcycle. Just look at that headlight cowl and windscreen. It looks beyond awesome, and evokes all sorts of bold emotions. Looking at the entire bike, the lines are coherant, simple, and rugged. The way the bike tapers off into a skeletonized rear is beautiful. It's mean and stylish at the same time. Every bike doesn't have to look like a roided out alien, and I definitely prefer a more elegant design.
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Jul 31, 2018 18:37
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Finger Prince posted:And then that one guy posts a Buell Ulysses, and we laaaaaaaughed! cor,
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Jul 31, 2018 18:44
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Coydog posted:
it has jowls it looks like a fish with mumps
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Jul 31, 2018 19:22
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I know it’s not but the broad flat lines on the front make it look eight feet wide.
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Jul 31, 2018 19:38
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Coydog posted:
It has certain charm.It's like when you shop fro groceries and see an ugly tomato. You take pity on it and buy it because it probably tastes just as good.(granted HD will probably suck, but I am not pre-judging)
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Jul 31, 2018 20:14
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Coydog posted:
From that able it looks even more like a star wars thing and I love it.
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Jul 31, 2018 20:21
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All three of my currently owned bikes are pretty goddamned ugly ('15 R1200GS, '14 Multistrada, '17 FZ-09) so that obviously wouldn't stop me from owning one, but the Pan America sure isn't much to look at. Furthermore, the reaction from the majority of the old goats at ADVRider is largely positive, confirming my initial take that this thing is ugly as gently caress.some ADVRider dude posted:another ADVRider dude posted:"They should've called it the Dirt Glide" Some of them do at least have a sense of humor. Jazzzzz fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 20:44
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Here is another ugly, but at least obviously functional, HD ADV bike (that's a Sportster motor). Doesn't really count because it's a custom one-off, but it can be done. http://www.carduccidualsport.com
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Jazzzzz posted:All three of my currently owned bikes are pretty goddamned ugly ('15 R1200GS, '14 Multistrada, '17 FZ-09) so that obviously wouldn't stop me from owning one, but the Pan America sure isn't much to look at. Furthermore, the reaction from the majority of the old goats at ADVRider is largely positive, confirming my initial take that this thing is ugly as gently caress. I saw someone refer to it as a Dirt Bagger on Facebook.
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Jul 31, 2018 21:44
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*droopy dog voice*
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Jul 31, 2018 21:52
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They should put a sporty motor in that fish-jowl thing and give it a radiator delete. OF COURSE it has crash bars. It's a Harley, why wouldn't it? I want to see the accessory line designed to go with it. It won't get those tires, it'll come with some sort of Harley-branded Dunlop. I'll ride my Uly to the demo day and make sure to rev up the drummer in the lot to make sure people know what they're not getting! clutchpuck fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 21:58
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Why would they put in a 40hp motor heavier than the earth's core? I mean usually the answer is cause they're Harley but this time they're clearly trying to not do the same poo poo all over again.
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Jul 31, 2018 22:08
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clutchpuck posted:OF COURSE it has crash bars. It's a Harley, why wouldn't it? I want to see the accessory line designed to go with it. Shield-and-bar branded all leather ADV gear would be entertaining, but I could actually see them doing a private label version of Klim stuff.
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Because it's more like a 100hp motor from the factory if you light the wick? And it can't be that heavy. Somehow, using 15 year old engineering techniques and materials, they put a sporty engine in an adventure bike that is lighter still than most other adventure bikes out now. I guess their current engineering team is 100% muggles.
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