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TBF I wouldn't mind another Devil Survivor so that would have been an acceptable SMTxFE
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Only if they get the Devil Survivor art guy to do the designs.
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Jun 16, 2016 19:55
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Waffleman_ posted:I've got to imagine that a factor in TMS' tepid sales is simply not being what it was announced as, right? there also might not be as big an overlap in 'fe fans' 'smt fans' and 'people who think idol stuff makes for interesting plots' than atlus and nintendo were expecting also a straight crossover would've been boring as hell, neither franchise has main characters w/strong personalites or character quirks and having those bounce off of the other franchise's characters are the most fun parts of crossovers
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Jun 16, 2016 19:56
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Endorph posted:the FE and SMT characters have no common ground tho. there's no interesting crossover elements you can do there, it's just fanficcy 'hi hector' 'hi raidou kuzonaha' Flynn's group and SMT IV absolutely connects to FE, the first 3 hours of the game are set in a medieval castle. Have them meet some Awakening people and go from there
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Jun 16, 2016 20:12
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they could have combined face-petting and s.links . . . . . . . .
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Jun 16, 2016 20:28
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MotU posted:they could have combined face-petting and s.links . . . . . . . . But that would just be s links.
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Jun 16, 2016 20:34
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What about face melting?
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Jun 16, 2016 21:22
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TheKingofSprings posted:Flynn's group and SMT IV absolutely connects to FE, the first 3 hours of the game are set in a medieval castle. 3 hours of a 50 hour game from a 20 year old series isn't exactly a whole lot to build a crossover on
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Jun 16, 2016 21:35
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It's not like Devil Survivor has much of a notable plot, anyway (at least not one worth paying attention to). The important thing for those games is that they're fun to play and I'm sure a DS-like SMT/FE game could also be fun.
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Jun 16, 2016 22:44
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HellCopter posted:New Tarot designs!? That means the full set I got from Ultimax and Q is powerless. The look like the classic rider deck
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Jun 16, 2016 22:55
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A straight cross over would have been pretty lame, but "Hi I'm Generic Everyman (Harem Anime Version), and this is Chrom, my Persona!" isn't all that much better than "Hi I'm Hector" "Hi Hector I'm Raidou!". Being a Wii U game didn't help, and while it was neat that they tried to go way out of the box, it doesn't seem to really be what people want out of Fire Emblem. It probably would have been more successful if Kozaki had been the character artist, if we're being honest.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:05
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:This is a dumb complaint for the SMT thread isn't it? You don't call it Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne: MANIAC EDITION you just refer to it as Nocturne, or SMT: Nocturne at most. Excuse me but it's called "Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne: MANIAC EDITION featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series" Now I need to go back to playing Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon cdyoung posted:The look like the classic rider deck I am kind of surprised at how the tarot cards became more classic given the more stylized direction of the rest of the game. They're not bad though, although I don't really like the huge size and style of the text. Even though I love the typeface design of the rest of the game.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:25
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The SMT title hasn't been used since Persona 4, so they actually dropped it with Persona 3 Portable. Persona 1 and 2 didn't have the label either, so 3, FES, and 4 were the only games with it. e: oh you edited that out e: oh, I was wrong, all the PSP versions have it too, including P3P. Arist fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Jun 16, 2016 23:31
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TurnipFritter posted:A straight cross over would have been pretty lame, but "Hi I'm Generic Everyman (Harem Anime Version), and this is Chrom, my Persona!" isn't all that much better than "Hi I'm Hector" "Hi Hector I'm Raidou!". I sort of agree and, having chewed through most of SMT IV in the past two months, would've preferred a straight up SMT WIIU game, TMS still looks ludicrous enough that I'll probably enjoy it and I have very little attachment to the FE franchise (I'll probably enjoy it I just haven't picked it up yet).
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Endorph posted:the FE and SMT characters have no common ground tho. there's no interesting crossover elements you can do there, it's just fanficcy 'hi hector' 'hi raidou kuzonaha' I bet you're the kind of person who hates Super Robot Wars too.
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MrAristocrates posted:The SMT title hasn't been used since Persona 4, so they actually dropped it with Persona 3 Portable. Persona 1 and 2 didn't have the label either, so 3, FES, and 4 were the only games with it. I edited it out because I hit quote instead of reply and didn't feel like fixing it. Yeah I'm aware about Persona 1 and 2, though of course Persona 1 had its own "Revelations" title which was used in a whole one other game. They looked fine on the box art but they always looked awkward in store listings and so on. And I am probably making it up but I swear talking to a guy in Gamestop back in 2006 like, "Hi I would like to order Persona 3" "sorry I can't find that" "Sorry I mean shin megami tensei persona 3" "oh there it is"
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Jun 16, 2016 23:52
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TurnipFritter posted:A straight cross over would have been pretty lame, but "Hi I'm Generic Everyman (Harem Anime Version), and this is Chrom, my Persona!" isn't all that much better than "Hi I'm Hector" "Hi Hector I'm Raidou!". The artist for TMS is one of the more popular artists in Japan. toi8 is really loving good.   
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Infinity Gaia posted:I bet you're the kind of person who hates Super Robot Wars too. TurnipFritter posted:It probably would have been more successful if Kozaki had been the character artist, if we're being honest.
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I tuned into the #FE Stream just in time to see the people showing them off claim the game had "something for everyone" two times within a couple minutes. I felt bad for them.
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You mean to say a colorful jpop filled super anime jrpg doesn't appeal to everyone? Edit: Actual question: did Atlus showcase TMS at all at E3? And I know it's rated mature, but I'm sorta surprised Nintendo didn't mention SMTIVA at all. SylvainMustach fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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Jun 17, 2016 01:06
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SylvainMustach posted:You mean to say a colorful jpop filled super anime jrpg doesn't appeal to everyone? I don't know if they did, but Nintendo had it on their Treehouse stream and stage time yesterday.
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SylvainMustach posted:You mean to say a colorful jpop filled super anime jrpg doesn't appeal to everyone? Atlus was right next to Nintendo, but they didn't show it off at all. They had... King of Fighters, SMT4:A, 7th Dragon, and multiple stations with a new Project Diva. I think that's everything...
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8-bit Miniboss posted:I don't know if they did, but Nintendo had it on their Treehouse stream and stage time yesterday. Yeah I caught that. I don't think it sold it to anyone on the fence.
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Atlus also had an official sub of the latest P5 trailer and a bit of new footage. BISHOUJO KAITO is Beauty Thief.
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Jun 17, 2016 02:48
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SectumSempra posted:
This is frustrating to see. 
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Jun 17, 2016 03:04
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Fe#'s art is decent but man, the character designs are boring as hell. The only good designs are the blonde girl, the little girl's battle form and BARRY GOODMAN.
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Endorph posted:the FE and SMT characters have no common ground tho. there's no interesting crossover elements you can do there, it's just fanficcy 'hi hector' 'hi raidou kuzonaha' dante had nothing to do with nocturne and that turned out fine
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hubris.height posted:dante had nothing to do with nocturne and that turned out fine
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Jun 17, 2016 23:27
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There are "monsters" in many FE games, just convert those to Demons, have the SMT characters be in the vaguely medieval past due to amala network shenanigans and there you go. Really, making a crossover work is pretty easy. Look at stuff like Project X Zone.
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Jun 18, 2016 01:26
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Also both series have their own multiverses so it wouldn't be a stretch in that regard.
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Infinity Gaia posted:There are "monsters" in many FE games, just convert those to Demons, have the SMT characters be in the vaguely medieval past due to amala network shenanigans and there you go. Really, making a crossover work is pretty easy. Look at stuff like Project X Zone. Is... is this a serious post?
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Jun 18, 2016 01:47
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project x zone didnt work tbh
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Infinity Gaia posted:There are "monsters" in many FE games, just convert those to Demons, have the SMT characters be in the vaguely medieval past due to amala network shenanigans and there you go. Really, making a crossover work is pretty easy. Look at stuff like Project X Zone. Do you come from the alternate universe where PXZ is a good game?
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Jun 18, 2016 01:52
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While I agree that SMT and FE have very little common ground to work with, SMT is already a crossover of fundamentally incompatible mythologies so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to include Raidou, the Demifiend and maybe some other dudes in there. Really, the biggest issue is that most of the MCs are silent so you'd have to resort to secondary characters most of which would hate each other because they're Law or Chaos aligned.
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Junpei Hyde posted:Do you come from the alternate universe where PXZ is a good game? I am the kind of person that, while believing PxZ is a bad game overall, thinks that it is good as a crossover.
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Infinity Gaia posted:I am the kind of person that, while believing PxZ is a bad game overall, thinks that it is good as a crossover. Ah, it's refreshing to see someone just admit to being very dumb.
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PxZ works in the sense that I've seen a few funny videos of characters swapping game references, but even that doesn't work with just two IPs where a bunch of the characters are silent avatars.
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yeah PxZ is mostly just a case of volume, and even then the 'good crossover elements' are mostly just people tossing video game references at each other.
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