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Sir Tonk posted:If you look you'll see that 757 is ten more than 747. It's true
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Chokes McGee posted:I'm genuinely at a loss here as to what JEB~ thinks his path to victory is. Like, "wait for Trump to collapse then make move" isn't even an angle because he's missing out on the important part: shut up while he implodes. (Plus he's not imploding) We're in terra incognita with Trump's campaign - he could fizzle out next month or win the nomination and neither would surprise me. Jeb has a very concrete problem in front of him though, namely that he and Walker were extremely unimpressive in the last debate. Another performance like that to show it wasn't just a bad night should be enough to send the establishment money running for Rubio.
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rear end cobra posted:I think you'll find that he's the golden sun in the middle of everything L'Etat, c'est Trump
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Aug 28, 2015 00:01
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Sir Tonk posted:If you look you'll see that 757 is ten more than 747. But his is a 757-200, which equals 557. What a loser.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:09
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rear end cobra posted:I think you'll find that he's the golden sun in the middle of everything Praise Lord President Trump
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taqueso posted:But his is a 757-200, which equals 557. What a loser. His plane is a command track?
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Aug 28, 2015 00:17
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Sir Tonk posted:If you look you'll see that 757 is ten more than 747. A 767 is ten more than that and a widebody. 
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Aug 28, 2015 00:17
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Willa Rogers posted:I'm an old & stiff boomer who ended up voting for Hillary in 2008 because her healthcare platform was a tad to the left of Obama's and yet I'm totally in the bag for Bernie now, as are many of my fellow old & stiff boomers. That's impossible. Baby boomers, especially women, are much like black people in that they don't respond to charisma, strength, honesty and authenticity. Also, due to your alien thought patterns you are unable to comprehend policy platforms and know what's good for you. See, I know this because I'm a young white male. We know these things based off of very important factors, such as favorability metrics.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:20
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Dahbadu posted:That's impossible. Baby boomers, especially women, are much like black people in that they don't respond to charisma, strength, honesty and authenticity. Also, due to your alien thought patterns you are unable to comprehend policy platforms and know what's good for you. See, I know this because I'm a young white male. We know these things based off of very important factors, such as favorability metrics. This is unironically going to be Bernie supporters explanation for why he loses, isn't it.
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Patter Song posted:
One other interesting thing is that neither Jeb! or Walker increased when The Donald's poll numbers dipped slightly.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:26
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I think a lot of boomers back Bernie because of his platform, which makes them feel young again.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:32
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It's so satisfying to watch Jeb? and Walker's numbers completely collapse. I think Trump will probably not be the nominee, but at this point I can't imagine who could be. They're all terrible in their own unique way.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:33
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Kalman posted:This is unironically going to be Bernie supporters explanation for why he loses, isn't it. I wouldn't know about that. I'm guessing no. What I do know is it is unironically the deconstructed argument that many people in this thread are making to defend their smug circlejerk groupthink opinions they're trying to pass off as critical thought. Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Aug 28, 2015 |
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Aug 28, 2015 00:35
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HappyHippo posted:It's so satisfying to watch Jeb? and Walker's numbers completely collapse. I think Trump will probably not be the nominee, but at this point I can't imagine who could be. They're all terrible in their own unique way. Rubio hasn't been mauled yet. Although any hope of any Republican get more than 10% of the Hispanic vote has been well buggered by Trump.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:38
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Dahbadu posted:I wouldn't know about. I'm guessing no. It's not, though. The idea that African-Americans and women might actually prefer Hillary to Bernie is, but many Sanderistas don't seem to be able to handle the idea that their waifu might not be everyone's first choice.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:38
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FAUXTON posted:I think a lot of boomers back Bernie because of his platform, which makes them feel young again. Hell, his picture makes me feel young again. One thing you gotta give to liberal boomers: We remember a time when most Dems actually stood for something, weren't as beholden to campaign donors, and listened to their constituents and what their constituents wanted. Dem members of Congress were a lot more liberal on kitchen-table issues than they are today.
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Willa Rogers posted:Hell, his picture makes me feel young again. There were a few older people at our local Bernie rally that said almost exactly this kind of thing. One guy was practically in tears about it.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:41
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Kalman posted:It's not, though. The idea that African-Americans and women might actually prefer Hillary to Bernie is, but many Sanderistas don't seem to be able to handle the idea that their waifu might not be everyone's first choice. I can't speak for all Sanderistas, but the idea I don't like is that women/African Americans are both monolithic and already have their minds made up.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:42
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OneTwentySix posted:How do you live with yourself when Trump and Carson are polling higher than you are? Jeb Bush realizes that it is August and the polls don't matter yet. His massive field organization, money and super PAC money will take care of the rest until primaries. None of which Trump has.
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Dahbadu posted:That's impossible. Baby boomers, especially women, are much like black people in that they don't respond to charisma, strength, honesty and authenticity. Also, due to your alien thought patterns you are unable to comprehend policy platforms and know what's good for you. See, I know this because I'm a young white male. We know these things based off of very important factors, such as favorability metrics. lol. I refuse to believe you've misconstrued what I've said to this extent.
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Willa Rogers posted:Hell, his picture makes me feel young again. lol are u loving serious
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Willa Rogers posted:I'm an old & stiff boomer ********************** This endorsement is the best evidence I've seen yet of why Bernie's campaign should go down in flames. Dahbadu posted:I wouldn't know about that. I'm guessing no. Critical thought has nothing to do with Presidential politics. It's circlejerk groupthink that actually gets people elected. Willa Rogers posted:Hell, his picture makes me feel young again. You are remembering a time in Presidential politics in this country that never existed. Maybe for Rep or Senator, but that time has never existed in Presidential politics. EDIT: You are simply mis-remembering. That time never even existed in Congressional politics because the time you are talking about is when the Democratic party was lead by the racist poo poo bags that are Republicans today. radical meme fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Aug 28, 2015 |
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RBC posted:lol are u loving serious She's right if you're talking economics and diplomacy. Democrats used to be much more pro-union, protectionist, and anti-war.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:48
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Honestly, given that there's evidence that Hillary Clinton is actually slightly to the left of the median Democratic voter the real surprise is that nobody's actually been able to make any inroads on her right.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:48
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HappyHippo posted:It's so satisfying to watch Jeb? and Walker's numbers completely collapse. I think Trump will probably not be the nominee, but at this point I can't imagine who could be. They're all terrible in their own unique way. Rubio is probably the most likely to start getting traction, but there's an issue: bpower posted:Rubio hasn't been mauled yet. Although any hope of any Republican get more than 10% of the Hispanic vote has been well buggered by Trump. If Rubio starts pulling ahead, he's gonna get attacked by The Donald just like happened to Jeb!, assuming that Rubio doesn't do a self-tank like Jeb! has.
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Yep, Jeb's people probably have the most experience in terms of political campaigning compared to everyone else in the field. They know it's all about long-term planning, and they are better prepped for it than anyone else. You can tell they were planning to sit on their asses while Trump and co fought it out amongst each other and emerge unscathed. Then the Trump Train missed every stop and now Jeb is flailing around trying to figure out an appropriate response. He can go low-key and risk just being knocked out by lack of trying, or go all in and risk it all before the real battle even starts. I think they are trying something in the middle and luckily Jeb is so bad at speaking those comments gently caress him over anyway.
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Willa Rogers posted:Hell, his picture makes me feel young again.
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Zikan posted:Hillary's favorables soared during that whole ordeal, an opponent bringing it up is probably the best way to consolidate the women's vote around Hillary and would be really dumb move. Oh no no one would ever bring it up, that'd look real dumb and out of line, probably even for Trump (PBUH). Anyway was just wondering. I do know that women ran to Obama over a fellow woman when it got down to it, good thing for Hilary there's no studly and charismatic guy in the democratic race right now I guess.
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Mitt Romney posted:Jeb Bush realizes that it is August and the polls don't matter yet. His massive field organization, money and super PAC money will take care of the rest until primaries. None of which Trump has. Money, something a Donald Trump campaign will lack. OK, then, Mittens.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I can't speak for all Sanderistas, but the idea I don't like is that women/African Americans are both monolithic and already have their minds made up. They aren't and they don't. Hell, there are black people who vote Republican! (Probably about as many as will vote for Bernie in the primaries.)
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radical meme posted:This endorsement is the best evidence I've seen yet of why Bernie's campaign should go down in flames. Why did you cut off the sentence of mine that you were quoting? Don't you want to see millennials go down in flames, too?
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Patter Song posted:Money, something a Donald Trump campaign will lack. OK, then, Mittens. Trump has tons of money but I don't think even he would spend a overly significant portion of it on his campaign. Jeb has superpacs funded by multiple people richer than Trump is. Unless of course, not spending all his money is considered a sign of weakness... something that he is physically incapable of showing.
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Kalman posted:It's not, though. The idea that African-Americans and women might actually prefer Hillary to Bernie is, but many Sanderistas don't seem to be able to handle the idea that their waifu might not be everyone's first choice. Even if he ends up not being their first choice, he'll end up being a close enough second so it won't matter. Which is what I've been saying. Don't put words in my mouth. My worry with Bernie is him having some type of Dean scream moment, or a series of successful negative mainstream media campaigns mounted against him (this could include a soft-blacklisting of positive Bernie coverage). In other words, the media and establishment knives coming out for him. If that doesn't happen, and things keep on going the way they're going, I think he can pull it off.
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Willa Rogers posted:Why did you cut off the sentence of mine that you were quoting? Don't you want to see millennials go down in flames, too? Millennials are not going to vote for Bernie in the general election. Old, white, white haired, commie, New England Jew is never going to pull the votes of young people in this country. edit: even if he promised them free legal weed and cancel all student debt he wouldn't get their vote in the general.
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Logikv9 posted:Trump has tons of money but I don't think even he would spend a overly significant portion of it on his campaign. Jeb has superpacs funded by multiple people richer than Trump is. Even the highest estimates of the amount spent on this campaign for a single candidate is somewhere between half a billion and a billion dollars (primary plus general). If Trump feels that he has a real chance at this, I could easily see him investing a trial balloon sum of a hundred million and singlehandedly match Right to Rise PAC's cash on hand.
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Dahbadu posted:Even if he ends up not being their first choice, he'll end up being a close enough second so it won't matter. Which is what I've been saying. Don't put words in my mouth. Tell me more about how close seconds do in a FPTP system. 
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pwnyXpress posted:There were a few older people at our local Bernie rally that said almost exactly this kind of thing. One guy was practically in tears about it. The plural of anecdote is not data, but my former junior high-school art teacher, who's 68, female, and supported Hillary over Obama in 2008, is an enthusiastic Bernie supporter now. Her current Facebook profile picture has her wearing one of his crazy hair and glasses-design hoodies. I grew up in an extremely rural part of the Pacific Northwest where you still see people flying Confederate flags sometimes (there's one in my above-noted art teacher's neighborhood, in fact). I was at the area's county fair a week ago, and noticed that the local county Democrats booth didn't have a single piece of Hillary campaign material up, but they did have a Bernie 2016 banner, as well as jars collecting cash donations for all the current campaigns. Guess whose jar was the most full? It was Bernie's. Deep Hurting fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Aug 28, 2015 |
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Led, not "lead." (Boomers also remember a time when people could spell.) And no, I'm not misremembering. I remember when Vietnam vets who were sick of the war swept Congress. I remember when women sick of Biden and his ilk after the Clarence Thomas hearings swept Congress. That Dems are the way they are today because they have to be is the greatest lie told to younger people. Obama's presidency ("No, we can't!") solidified that lie, and it makes me sad to see supposedly "liberal" younger people buy into that lie.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:59
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radical meme posted:This endorsement is the best evidence I've seen yet of why Bernie's campaign should go down in flames. Beautiful. With all these nerd skulls I'm going to collect, I'm gonna be like the Predator.
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Patter Song posted:Even the highest estimates of the amount spent on this campaign for a single candidate is somewhere between half a billion and a billion dollars (primary plus general). If Trump feels that he has a real chance at this, I could easily see him investing a trial balloon sum of a hundred million and singlehandedly match Right to Rise PAC's cash on hand. True. But money can't buy everything. It's good for ad buys, polls, and other poo poo but he will still lack the people with experience and trustworthiness. Heck, the majority of people that are actually on campaign payroll right now would find themselves running a calling station for any other campaign. Right to Rise is run by a longtime Bush aide. Everyone else with responsibility probably has some longtime connection to the Bushes. *Maybe* Trump can buy good people through sheer force of money, but they won't be as trusted compared to the competition. And the people he does trust, have no experience. You really can't have both.
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