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Czechia and Estonia are the least religious countries in Europe, why are they so homophobic?
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Jan 7, 2018 02:37
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First time I see a map with floodfill helpers.
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Jan 7, 2018 02:53
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Max Landis is a creep Content: https://twitter.com/TerribleMaps/status/934875207852060672
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Jan 7, 2018 02:59
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Pakled posted:Czechia and Estonia are the least religious countries in Europe, why are they so homophobic? Quite often, abandoning a religion doesn't mean abandoning its social views.
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Jan 7, 2018 03:12
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Finland and Estonia are really letting the rest of the Protestant Bloc down.
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Jan 7, 2018 03:16
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 Good map, but goddamn does it aggravate my map ocd  Also it's being very generous to Cambodia by calling it a democratic state. As a constitutional monarchy run as a single party communist dictatorship it might require its own category, or at least an asterisks or something.
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Jan 7, 2018 03:19
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Wait, Switzerland had a monarch?
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Jan 7, 2018 03:41
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Koramei posted:Wait, Switzerland had a monarch? Technically, the Holy Roman Emperor? Otherwise it's been a confederacy ever since its creation, so there's never been a monarch of Switzerland specifically.
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Jan 7, 2018 04:03
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Pakled posted:Czechia and Estonia are the least religious countries in Europe, why are they so homophobic? Legacy of communist times or current Russian influences. Probably more to do with Russian influence since their neighbors don't feel as strongly as them.
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Jan 7, 2018 06:24
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Take away Finland's Nordic card.
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Jan 7, 2018 07:07
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We're not on the map because our prime minister is lesbian. 
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Jan 7, 2018 07:16
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Pakled posted:Czechia and Estonia are the least religious countries in Europe, why are they so homophobic? To expand on what others have said, anti-LGBT sentiment isn't necessarily rooted in religious reasons. Socially conservative worldviews and rigid ideas about gender roles don't have to have a religious basis. It can often be just "those gays are unmanly/icky/pedophilic/dirty!" or "men and women have naturally determined societal roles and those queers gently caress it all up!!!" and other such things that don't need any belief in explicit supernatural forces to subscribe to. I've certainly met hardcore, outspokenly atheistic people who would agree with the sentences I quoted above, as well as adherents of various religions who would disagree with the same. tl;dr - religiosity doesn't always determine people's views on gender relations and sexual orientation.
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Jan 7, 2018 07:34
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Yeah it's pretty much just  and stereotypes at this point. Straight people are like this gay people are like this.Phrenology and eugenics are pretty much dead these days too, but a depressing number of people on the street will still tell you personalities and intelligence are hereditary and some people are "more evolved" than others without even really being aware of the racial caste system that spawned those ideas. They're just ideological zombies shambling along waiting for someone to finish them off.
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Jan 7, 2018 08:40
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Squalid posted:
I'm the free and indipendent Republic of Kuwait, who was never governed by a monarch since the dawn of time.
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Jan 7, 2018 10:20
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Cat Mattress posted:First time I see a map with floodfill helpers. There's an empty world map like that. I see it used quite often by amateur map makers to quickly fill in a map with some data. Maps like that have been posted in this thread a bunch of times.
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Jan 7, 2018 11:11
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Koramei posted:Wait, Switzerland had a monarch? Yeah, the Cheese King of the Alps, Ludwig 3
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Jan 7, 2018 11:19
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Shouldn't Namibia be the same color as South Africa, as it was considered part of South Africa at the time, even if there were disagreements, and was instrumental in the monarchy/republic referendum winning by 52%.
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Jan 7, 2018 11:25
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Squalid posted:
Why would you pick 1813 as your breakpoint when half of Spanish South America rebelled slightly before and the other half slightly after? Colombia and Venezuela used to be the same country for chrissakes.
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Jan 7, 2018 11:41
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We already had a gay prime minister  fishmech posted:Quite often, abandoning a religion doesn't mean abandoning its social views. Yes, and more generally, right-wing views are only weakly linked to religiousness in most of modern Europe. It's just not a factor. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Jan 7, 2018 |
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Jan 7, 2018 12:28
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Phlegmish posted:We already had a gay prime minister Our prime minister has never had a date in his life so it's anyone's guess what his sexual preferences are.
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Jan 7, 2018 12:42
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Carbon dioxide posted:Our prime minister has never had a date in his life so it's anyone's guess what his sexual preferences are. Anime?
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Jan 7, 2018 12:47
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Carbon dioxide posted:Our prime minister has never had a date in his life so it's anyone's guess what his sexual preferences are. Finally, a leader to represent the goon demographic.
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Jan 7, 2018 12:49
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Jan 7, 2018 13:06
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Anime? Well he spends a lot of time with his mom...
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Jan 7, 2018 14:18
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Guavanaut posted:Shouldn't Namibia be the same color as South Africa, as it was considered part of South Africa at the time, even if there were disagreements, and was instrumental in the monarchy/republic referendum winning by 52%. The referendum passed by 75,000 votes. S-W Africa as a province only voted in favour of it by 7,000 votes. So its not really correct in saying it was 'instrumental' in the Republic winning out.
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Jan 7, 2018 14:25
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Legacy of communist times or current Russian influences. Probably more to do with Russian influence since their neighbors don't feel as strongly as them. It has nothing to do with Russia (why does everything have to be linked to Russia?), social conservatism and religion are two different things that may be intertwined in some societies, but that shouldn't make you expect them to be always aligned.
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Jan 7, 2018 14:26
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Why do the hydro plants have smoke stacks?
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Jan 7, 2018 14:31
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Nature's proof that Kazakhstan is Number 1
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Jan 7, 2018 14:33
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Blut posted:The referendum passed by 75,000 votes. S-W Africa as a province only voted in favour of it by 7,000 votes. So its not really correct in saying it was 'instrumental' in the Republic winning out. If Angola and Mozambique both suddenly decided to stop being monarchies at the same time as Portugal without getting a vote, it seems strange to say "we just don't know when Namibia became a republic."
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Jan 7, 2018 14:53
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Guavanaut posted:SWA still had the biggest republican percentage besides OVS, and the entire reason that the vote was extended there was because the NP was sure they'd swing towards a republic in a tight referendum. It doesn't matter at all that SWA had a high vote percentage in favour of the referendum when the gross number of voters in SWA was so low. Or for what reason the franchise was extended to them. You were completely wrong to say that a state that had 7,000 votes in favour of the referendum was "instrumental" in passing it when the referendum passed by 75,000 votes countrywide. SWAfrica's votes were more accurately "inconsequential" than "instrumental". If they hadn't gotten to vote on the referendum it would have made exactly no difference to it passing.
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Jan 7, 2018 15:32
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We still know the exact date that they decided to become a republic, which seems odd to omit from that map, even if they did decide to become a republic as a client state of another country that decided to become a republic.
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Jan 7, 2018 15:42
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Didn't expect to see Ireland being more gay-friendly than GB and most other Western European countries. Also what the hell, Finland.
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Jan 7, 2018 16:04
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Current leader is gay.
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Jan 7, 2018 16:07
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i feel really dumb because up until last year i didn't know the country macedonia isn't actually macedonia. i just always assumed.
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Jan 7, 2018 16:08
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Grevling posted:Didn't expect to see Ireland being more gay-friendly than GB and most other Western European countries. Ireland's current Prime Minister (Taoiseach) is an openly gay half Indian man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Varadkar A referendum on recognizing gay marriage a couple of years ago also passed easily: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-fourth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland Ireland has liberalized rapidly in the 20th century. The influence of the Catholic church is dying a death very quickly. A combination of a never ending series of Catholic church scandals, a rapid increase in wealth in the 1990s, and the dying off of the older, more religious segment of the population is doing wonders for the country.
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Jan 7, 2018 16:17
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Count Roland posted:Why do the hydro plants have smoke stacks? That's not smoke, it's steam.
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Jan 7, 2018 16:30
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Turkmenistan: Ashgabat Uzbekistan: Tashkent Tajikistan: Dushanbe Kyrgyzstan: Bishkek Kazakhstan: Astana <-- OCD triggered, rename to Ashtana immediately Count Roland posted:Why do the hydro plants have smoke stacks? It's very cold and they need to melt the water first. Or the map maker didn't have a better power plant dingbat available. Either/or.
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Jan 7, 2018 16:52
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Groovelord Neato posted:i feel really dumb because up until last year i didn't know the country macedonia isn't actually macedonia. i just always assumed. Sure it is. Just not the coastline or traditional capital (Thessaloniki)
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Jan 7, 2018 17:02
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Lycus posted:Take away Finland's Nordic card. Too late, we already sold it off to cut taxes for the rich. I genuinely don't have a good explanation or excuse for the low percentage. Though I'd love to A/B test that question by dropping "bisexual" from the B version. Not saying it relates to the Finnish result, just in general it'd be interesting to see. Edit: an openly gay man was in the second round of the presidential election in 2012, he lost 70-30, and he's running again against the 2012 winner who became an incredibly popular incumbent, maybe already in 2015 people were interpreting this as a direct question on the actual candidates for 2018? That's probably too far-fetched. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jan 7, 2018 |
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Jan 7, 2018 17:03
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Guavanaut posted:We still know the exact date that they decided to become a republic, which seems odd to omit from that map, even if they did decide to become a republic as a client state of another country that decided to become a republic. It’s almost certainly not on the map because the map maker couldn’t find it in the approximately five minutes he spent looking. Much like Papua New Guinea or Somalia or French Africa.
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Jan 7, 2018 17:21
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