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Jet Jaguar posted:Most Americans are one medical crisis away from bankruptcy and losing everything. Medical insurance doesn't mean poo poo when the company denies coverage for "experimental" treatment (which is what's been happening to them). I had a very close friend who died this year of brain cancer. Had similar treatment to what Bryan is receiving (I think the drug is called Avastin), the insurance company denied coverage for a fairly significant chunk of his treatment, the guy died anyway, and now his wife and daughter are pretty much hosed. Even with his life insurance, it doesn't look good for them. Sure, maybe Bryan doesn't somehow deserve help with his medical bills more than any other person in his shoes, but considering the possible ramifications of his illness, I completely understand why he'd use his popularity to get some assistance.
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Speaking of which, did anyone check out the concert podcast? It seemed like they weren't particularly well prepared for it. You have Drew trying to take Loveline questions from an audience miles away from their normal callers (once again cementing the idea that he does terrible radio). They bring up stories and decide not to talk about them. Jimmy Kimmel is just sort of wandering on and off of the stage in drunken delirium, and the stand-up bits were a little uninspired. The only bits that really got me going were Greg Fitzsimmon's jizz jokes and some of Joel McHale's bits, especially talking about how good TACS was. You'd think they'd put a little more effort into it on the whole.
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Jet Jaguar posted:That money won't even begin to cover all of his medical expenses, let alone provide an income when neither of them have been able to work for months. ...but you see, why do we need universal health coverage? Look at my family, and everyone I know. [/Adam]
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Nov 25, 2009 17:52
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Gatekeeper posted:I had a very close friend who died this year of brain cancer. Had similar treatment to what Bryan is receiving (I think the drug is called Avastin), the insurance company denied coverage for a fairly significant chunk of his treatment, the guy died anyway, and now his wife and daughter are pretty much hosed. Even with his life insurance, it doesn't look good for them. Well, it's Adam and his other celebrity friends who came up with the idea for the benefit, and it's a nice gesture, but personally, I would have either scaled the wedding they just had waaaaay back, or put it off, knowing that medical bills were about to be a big consideration. Bryan's wife had just been laid off too when the radio show ended, so I know that they were already aware of having to budget differently, and then this hits...I guess I have the mentality of someone who has been poor most of my life, romantic gestures are nice, but when the poo poo hits the fan you make sacrifices.
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Nov 25, 2009 18:29
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Gatekeeper posted:I had a very close friend who died this year of brain cancer. Had similar treatment to what Bryan is receiving (I think the drug is called Avastin), the insurance company denied coverage for a fairly significant chunk of his treatment, the guy died anyway, and now his wife and daughter are pretty much hosed. Even with his life insurance, it doesn't look good for them. It's probably a futile effort, but I think that if I were super-rich I'd put money toward enacting healthcare reform. As long as we've got the ineffective selfish shitballs in office that we do though, that would probably be flushing money down the toilet. Why is his wife unable to work? She doesn't have cancer, does she?
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raditts posted:Why is his wife unable to work? She doesn't have cancer, does she?
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Strange Matter posted:Speaking of which, did anyone check out the concert podcast? If you're on the fence over spending $2 to hear the audio, give it a pass.
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UltraRed posted:Bryan needs full time care, or so they've said. yeah in one of the podcasts he says he says something to the effect of not being able to use the bathroom without help 
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Here's why I'm not going to pay for the podcast 1. I already donated That's about it. They should have allowed a method for those who have already donated to be able to download. Especially if yo donated more than 2 dollars.
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The Senate posted:Here's why I'm not going to pay for the podcast I already donated, don't plan on paying for the show, and I don't really feel that slighted by it. The tickets to the show were $100+; charging $2 for a recording of it doesn't seem that unreasonable to me, and it's not like he's said "Well if you want to hear this week's worth of podcasts, you have to pay for it, to help Bryan's cancer bills." It's either worth $2 for you or it isn't. Why do you deserve anything for having donated to Bryan? Bamm Bamm fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Nov 27, 2009 |
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Nov 26, 2009 18:55
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Holland Oats posted:From what I understand, he has medical insurance too. The leading cause of bankruptcy in the US is medical bills. 80% of the people declaring bankruptcy due to medical bills have health insurance. Getting sick is expensive.
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Savington posted:The leading cause of bankruptcy in the US is medical bills. 80% of the people declaring bankruptcy due to medical bills have health insurance. Getting sick is expensive. Don't want to go on a D&D tangent, but that is not entirely true. Medical work is incredibly expensive for sure, but the correct way to phrase that is "80% of the people declaring bankruptcy have medical bills". That's most commonly mixed with a mortgage or a car or credit card bills from some vacation etc etc etc. The 80% figure is vastly made up of people that were living beyond their means in the first place and had one large unplanned event (ie medical) take it over the edge. The percentage of people driven to bankruptcy purely by medical debt is much, much smaller.
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Bryan does have insurance, but his provider refused to cover the medicine he needed. Seriously though, I can't believe people are complaining about $2. No matter how poor you are, you could get that money. I hate to use the public broadcasting/christian children's fund saying, but its one cup of coffee. You could ask people on the street and have $2 in 30 minutes.
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Brekelefuw posted:Bryan does have insurance, but his provider refused to cover the medicine he needed.
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Nov 27, 2009 03:24
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TheDingo posted:Don't want to go on a D&D tangent, but that is not entirely true. Medical work is incredibly expensive for sure, but the correct way to phrase that is "80% of the people declaring bankruptcy have medical bills". That's most commonly mixed with a mortgage or a car or credit card bills from some vacation etc etc etc. The 80% figure is vastly made up of people that were living beyond their means in the first place and had one large unplanned event (ie medical) take it over the edge. The percentage of people driven to bankruptcy purely by medical debt is much, much smaller. It's not much much smaller. You get hurt or sick, you miss work. You don't work, you don't get paid. Now you throw in massive fees in addition to no income, you get bankruptcy. When you don't have an income, every expense is beyond your means. It's a fantasy that the people who are bankrupted by medical debt were behaving irresponsibly and thus deserve what they received.
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Nov 27, 2009 18:21
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I really don't have a problem paying the $1.99. I was kinda pissed when I heard a 59 second commercial instead of a full podcast since I was at work at the time. A little heads up would have gone a long way. I'm also not happy about the paypal only bullshit. I would rather buy it on iTunes, but then Apple would have to get their greedy hands in the mix. Giovanni got annoying. He kept asking Adam something to the effect of "have you ever listened to hours and hours of yourself talking?" WHY THE gently caress WOULD ADAM DO THIS? "Well I was gonna listen to some Blood, Sweat & Tears while I wrenched on my Lambo, but I think I'll throw on some old Loveline eps instead." Yeah, that's gonna happen.  -Edited for clarity Smeer the Reindeer fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Nov 28, 2009 |
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Bamm Bamm posted:I already donated, don't plan on paying for the show, and I don't really feel that slighted by it. The tickets to the show were $100+; charging $2 for a recording of it doesn't seem that unreasonable to me, and it's not like he's said "Well if you want to hear this week's worth of podcasts, you have to pay for it, to help Bryan's cancer bills." Well I don't feel like I deserve anything. I just think it would have been cool if he would have allowed people who donated maybe 20 bucks or more, or something, to get the podcast. Just as a thank you do you know what I mean? I'm not angry I didn't a free podcast, i'm just not going to buy it thats all.
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The Senate posted:Well I don't feel like I deserve anything. I just think it would have been cool if he would have allowed people who donated maybe 20 bucks or more, or something, to get the podcast. Just as a thank you do you know what I mean? I'm not angry I didn't a free podcast, i'm just not going to buy it thats all. Yeah, I'm with you. From what I've gathered, it was a pretty phoned-in show anyway, so I don't feel that terrible about not downloading it.
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Just listened to the 7/29/2003 Loveline with Ginger Lynn, holy poo poo, what a great episode. The Drew 'high-fives' were hilarious, Adam really does know how to make great radio. I totally lost it every time I heard the palm-slapping sound and Adam shouting excitedly. I could just picture Drew's face while all that was going on. And Adam referring to System of a Down as 'falafel-rock' was great. There was also an incredible story about Charlie Sheen getting coked up and coming up with a whole plan where Ginger Lynn would fake her own death, go to Europe and get plastic surgery to completely change her appearance, and assume a whole new identity. Why? Because Charlie's grandma didn't like him dating a porn star. Charlie could then introduce Ginger to his family as this new person and no one would give them a hard time about her profession. She almost went through with it, too, but she finally backed out after deciding that she'd miss her grandma too much (as she wouldn't be able to have any contact with her own family after faking her death). I love the amazing ideas that come from being lit, and somehow that story makes me like Charlie Sheen even more.
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I'm pretty sure it was one of the episodes included in that huge torrent.
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The Latest episode of the Film Vault is up - Holiday films. If the first segment they talk to Loveline callers too. http://www.thefilmvault.net Still no Bald Bryan, but Anderson, Miss Movies and Mike Carano. N.E. they are hoping to take calls on thursday at 8pm if anybody is interested in calling in
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Transmodiar posted:I'm just glad I didn't pay $100 to be there - I've only listened to half (partway through Larry Miller) and I don't know if I'll continue. Fitzsimmons bombed, Dana Gould was stale after his Huell impressions, and the stuff beforehand was only mildly amusing. The Dr. Drew segment was bad for the reasons listed above - why do "a little Loveline" when you're only on stage for 5 minutes? Why keep asking Adam to tell stories he doesn't want to tell? Adam certainly was playing it up as some kind of amazing comedic explosion on one of the recent podcasts. I guess he would be a bit biased, though. Smeer the Reindeer posted:Giovanni got annoying. He kept asking Adam something to the effect of "have you ever listened to hours and hours of yourself talking?" WHY THE gently caress WOULD ADAM DO THIS? You have to realize that you're talking about a guy who considers spending his days scrounging around for obscure episodes of a call-in radio show to be a perfectly normal thing to do. TheDingo posted:Don't want to go on a D&D tangent, but that is not entirely true. Medical work is incredibly expensive for sure, but the correct way to phrase that is "80% of the people declaring bankruptcy have medical bills". That's most commonly mixed with a mortgage or a car or credit card bills from some vacation etc etc etc. The 80% figure is vastly made up of people that were living beyond their means in the first place and had one large unplanned event (ie medical) take it over the edge. The percentage of people driven to bankruptcy purely by medical debt is much, much smaller. You can't seriously loving believe this. raditts fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Dec 1, 2009 |
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raditts posted:You can't seriously loving believe this. Sorry, I guess I will blindly follow any random statistic someone posts on a message board. Please feel free to enlighten me on the countless other causes of bankruptcy.
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TheDingo posted:Sorry, I guess I will blindly follow any random statistic someone posts on a message board. Please feel free to enlighten me on the countless other causes of bankruptcy. It's not like we have studies by Harvard to back him up. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/bankruptcy_study.html
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UltraRed posted:It's not like we have studies by Harvard to back him up. The only thing of value in that article is this: "Surprisingly, most of those bankrupted by illness had health insurance." That is sad. To the rest my response is "Of course the vast majority of bankrupcies are caused by medical bills!" Please provide me with the many other ways of bankrupting oneself outside of medical expenses. I am saying it is irresponsible to focus an argument against the healthcare industry by adding bias to a statistic. The classic example is "50% of marriages end in divorce" posed to every argument about marriage. Sure, but that doesn't mean that 50% of people that get married get divorced. Statistically, the majority of people that get a divorce in their lifetime do it multiple times which skews the number greatly. Just because Larry King can't seem to settle down doesn't mean your parents have a 50/50 chance or splitting. Lifespan fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Dec 1, 2009 |
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Gatekeeper posted:Just listened to the 7/29/2003 Loveline with Ginger Lynn, holy poo poo, what a great episode. Just listened to that one yesterday! I lost my poo poo hearing the high fives and Adam being all excited. It was incredible and I haven't laughed so hard listening to Loveline in such a long time.
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Hormones posted:Just listened to that one yesterday! I lost my poo poo hearing the high fives and Adam being all excited. It was incredible and I haven't laughed so hard listening to Loveline in such a long time. I typically listen to loveline during my daily commute and have between 10 and 15 episodes loaded onto my ipod at any one time. I like listening in chronological order, because a lot of little jokes are references to previous episodes. Ironically this is the very next episode waiting for my consumption, I can't wait!
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Wasn't that episode with Ginger Lynn around the time that Adam found a tarantula in his garage and was asking callers for advice on what to feed it? That was absolutely loving hilarious, especially when he went off on Drew for saying "well, it might be a LEAPING tarantula that can jump up and bite your jugular".
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TheDingo posted:The only thing of value in that article is this: That's the exact opposite of what you posted before.  quote:I am saying it is irresponsible to focus an argument against the healthcare industry by adding bias to a statistic. The classic example is "50% of marriages end in divorce" posed to every argument about marriage. Sure, but that doesn't mean that 50% of people that get married get divorced. Statistically, the majority of people that get a divorce in their lifetime do it multiple times which skews the number greatly. Just because Larry King can't seem to settle down doesn't mean your parents have a 50/50 chance or splitting.
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UltraRed posted:That's the exact opposite of what you posted before. Not at all opposite of what I said before. To summarize: The statistic that "80% of bankruptcies are due to medical debt" was being used to imply that high medical costs are driving people broke. While the statistic may be true, it is misleading to attach it to that argument. The truth is that there are very few things that can lead to bankruptcy and a common yet unexpected event (medical) will obviously make up the vast majority. The truth is that if medical costs were half of what they are now, the statistic likely be just as high given the debt and spending/saving habits of the average person. Once again, not a disagreement with "medical costs are too high" and "health insurance is unreliable" arguments, because I agree. It is an argument against skewing a general statistic, using it as evidence to try and prove a point when it is actually not very relevant. Back to the semi-topic: Has anyone else noticed the ads on Carcast sound like Donny poorly spliced them together out of different sound clips? The one for Sync was so awkward that it sounded like Adam was one of those text-to-speech voices.
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TheDingo posted:Back to the semi-topic: Has anyone else noticed the ads on Carcast sound like Donny poorly spliced them together out of different sound clips? The one for Sync was so awkward that it sounded like Adam was one of those text-to-speech voices. I love when Donnie does the ads for CarCast before the regular podcast episodes because he's so loving awkward, and you can tell he's trying to do his special RADIO voice and just comes off as doofy. Talk like you normally talk, Donnie.
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TheDingo's retarded logic is breaking my brain. Ah, at least there is always Adam to... Oh, no wait. Just as retarded.
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HumanCropcircle posted:I typically listen to loveline during my daily commute and have between 10 and 15 episodes loaded onto my ipod at any one time. I like listening in chronological order, because a lot of little jokes are references to previous episodes. Ironically this is the very next episode waiting for my consumption, I can't wait! Did you like the Ginger Lynn episode? I thought it was so good. Coming up will be another porn star, Christy Canyon. Ginger's episode was a thousand times better than Christy's. And sometime after Christy is Seth Green and it's also absolutely hysterical. Adam harasses a female caller about how tall her doorway is and she has no clue what he's talking about. Much lols were had. DJJustice posted:Wasn't that episode with Ginger Lynn around the time that Adam found a tarantula in his garage and was asking callers for advice on what to feed it? That was absolutely loving hilarious, especially when he went off on Drew for saying "well, it might be a LEAPING tarantula that can jump up and bite your jugular".
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Jaguarp posted:Bald Bryan sounds great on today's podcast. Put me in a good mood. He did! And I really like Frank Stallone on the podcast for some reason; he has a lot of good stories and rapport with everyone. I hope he's on there more often.
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overthefalls posted:He did! And I really like Frank Stallone on the podcast for some reason; he has a lot of good stories and rapport with everyone. I hope he's on there more often. Frank Stallone is an angry disgruntled piece of poo poo. I had a hard time listening to the last podcast because i just wnated to slap him in his drunk face. Every question that Adam asked ended up with an anecdote on how he is a rock star who never quite got the fame he deserved. He was only paid a 140 bucks for Rocky! He gave Bon Jovi his start moving amps! It didnt sound like he had a good rapport at all. Im not sure how you got that perception. Theresa felt the douche chills and it was audible in her voice and the way she would just say 'hrmm.' Adam didnt seem to know what to ask him either because every story ended with Frank Stallone being a rock star. He asked him about his dad having a 12 year old son and it turned into a story about how Frank was so awesome.
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The Senate posted:Frank Stallone is an angry disgruntled piece of poo poo. I had a hard time listening to the last podcast because i just wnated to slap him in his drunk face. I loved the podcast because Frank was such a bitter rear end in a top hat. I like how he's not even on speaking terms with his brother, which is probably no fault of Sly's. If you can't laugh at how Frank describes his entire life as trying to get out of his shadow, yet all he talks about is his brother, I don't know what to say.
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Magnificent Quiver posted:I loved the podcast because Frank was such a bitter rear end in a top hat. I like how he's not even on speaking terms with his brother, which is probably no fault of Sly's. "Hows my brother doing? gently caress you. Anyway, about my brother..." It was funny at first then it just got incredibly annoying.
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