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Nuclearmonkee posted:Just respond with excerpts of what the contras did and shame him. Shouldn't be terribly difficult. Yes. "Oh really? You and all the real americans went out and <insert contra atrocities>? You're a god damned patriot!"
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Just respond with excerpts of what the contras did and shame him. Shouldn't be terribly difficult. Oh I did, along with the evidence of the Reagan Administration's attempts to cover it up, and the illegality of the whole thing - and here was his response: quote:Your problem, is that you keep looking at the world as it exists now, and not as it was then. And back then, our aid to the Contras led to the collapse of the Nicaraguan Communist government so it was definitely a good thing to have done. We could have done a lot more had not the Democrats worked so hard to stop it because they wanted to discredit President Reagan more than they valued National Security. It's hard to double-down on child murder and mass rape, but I guess the ends justify the means. Hey it was the crazy 80s, anything went. Also, gently caress those pesky Democrats and their drat consciences. We could have had sooo much more nun rape.
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Mar 12, 2011 03:44
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How in the flying gently caress did Nicaraguan Communists affect Americans personally at home, let alone how raping nuns and killing Americans helped this problem.
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Mar 12, 2011 04:36
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Kubrick posted:Oh I did, along with the evidence of the Reagan Administration's attempts to cover it up, and the illegality of the whole thing - and here was his response: Is he trying to pull "we mustn't pass judgement on people from the past, they had different standards back then" on something from less than 30 years ago?
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RagnarokAngel posted:How in the flying gently caress did Nicaraguan Communists affect Americans personally at home, let alone how raping nuns and killing Americans helped this problem. They were working with the soviets. I don't know if this happened before or after US Contra support, but I know they eventually got some attack helicopters from Russia. Regardless, Nicaragua's siding with the USSR probably had something to do with the US's military interventions and America's support of their dictatorships at the behest of corporate interests for a good 70 years. EDIT: haha I almost forgot. Reagan called the Contras the "the moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers." Kubrick fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Mar 12, 2011 |
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Mar 12, 2011 05:21
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Nathilus posted:That person sounds like a loving sociopath. Nah, just a guy that so petrified by communism that he is willing to give up every principle he holds dear to defeat it. I'm trying to show him the hypocrisy in all his misty-eyed talk of America being the shining beacon of hope for the world while systematically believing that we must dirty ourselves with support for mutilators, rapists, and child killers to win a greater battle over totalitarianism.
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Kubrick posted:Nah, just a guy that so petrified by communism that he is willing to give up every principle he holds dear to defeat it. I've had people honestly argue that we should have joined with the Nazis and fight the USSR. He's probably one of those very broken people.
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Kubrick posted:So I brought up Reagan's support for the Contras to the Reagan-worshiper and he wrote back the worst short sentence I've ever read in a discussion on politics:
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Kubrick posted:Nah, just a guy that so petrified by communism that he is willing to give up every principle he holds dear to defeat it. I want to see people living in communes to defeat communism. We must all stick together and give up our private property for the collective good of defeating this grave evil, you see?
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Orange Devil posted:I want to see people living in communes to defeat communism. We must all stick together and give up our private property for the collective good of defeating this grave evil, you see? Funny, it doesn't sound too far off from how the military actually works. Communal living, communal dining, shared facilities, everyone working for the community in the capacity they are deemed best for, basic needs, education, and healthcare all covered. Granted there's pay involved too, but...
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Is that a Facebook metajoke? What popularised the meme; did Glenn or Rush do a rant about it already?
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pillsburysoldier posted:making the rounds of facebook:
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I think this is one of those things that doesn't actually require an idiot teacher to give people bad ideas. The mental equation went something like this. "What do I know about Japan? [Technology and WW2]" + "I am a SUPER PATRIOT" = "Payback for WW2 BiTcHeZZZZ!!"
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Dropping a couple of nukes on heavily populated areas wasn't enough "payback"?
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XyloJW posted:I think this is one of those things that doesn't actually require an idiot teacher to give people bad ideas. The mental equation went something like this. "What do I know about Japan? [Technology and WW2]" + "I am a SUPER PATRIOT" = "Payback for WW2 BiTcHeZZZZ!!" Whats funny is most of those people are probably Reagan apologists like the admitted contra douchebag. "America must be forgiven for its transgressions less then 30 years ago because it was a different time and there are acceptable levels of nun rape and mass murder" VS "Lets hold a grudge against Japan for 60 plus years despite the fact we dropped 2 nukes on them...they have to pay for their actions 60 plus years ago unlike us because..."
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Nosaj posted:Whats funny is most of those people are probably Reagan apologists like the admitted contra douchebag. I think even that might be overthinking the matter. It's literally a matter of "Here's a thing I know about Japan, and Japan is in the news!" and thinking they're clever for connecting the two. The SUPER PATRIOT part comes as an immediate afterthought to clear up any accidental thinking on the matter.
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Greg Ikerd's status takes the cake. How the gently caress do people like that make a comfortable enough life for themselves despite having zero ability to think critically? "WE GOT PEOPLE STARVING IN THIS COUNTRY AND PEOPLE WITH MEDICAL NEEDS BUT WE SEND MONEY TO JAPAN gently caress TAXES!!!" God damnit!
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About halfway down that list, someone said "Did japan help when katrina happened? Hell no, gently caress them" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina Needless to say, Japan sent plenty of help for Katrina. However, so did an impressive fuckload of countries. It really should put a total lid on any nationalist "America first!" horseshit. Edit: Wikipedia  quote:Paraguay XyloJW fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Mar 13, 2011 |
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Everything bad that will ever happen in Japan will forever be payback for the brave men and women who were mercilessly butchered by the evil japs during WWII. America; Never forgive (what other countries did that was bad), Never Forget (except for aid they send us).
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Yeah I agree this is probably just idiots going, "Japan? Hey I know a thing about Japan! One thing to be exact!" and then hitting the keyboard.
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tek79 posted:Greg Ikerd's status takes the cake. How the gently caress do people like that make a comfortable enough life for themselves despite having zero ability to think critically? "WE GOT PEOPLE STARVING IN THIS COUNTRY AND PEOPLE WITH MEDICAL NEEDS BUT WE SEND MONEY TO JAPAN gently caress TAXES!!!" I would be willing to bet he's got other statuses complaining about welfare queens or illegal immigrants. There's homeless people in THIS country, but I'm not going to help them EITHER! A girl I know wrote something like this on Facebook. Something like "ZOMG WE BETTER NOT SEND ANY MONEY TO JAPAN WE'RE IN A RECESSION, I'm not a bad person, but we shouldn't be sending them money" or some horseshit. You are in fact, a bad person if you don't want to help someone who's suffering. By the time I got ready to link to this article by the librul partisans at PBS: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/03/foreign-aid-facing-proposed-cuts-public-perception-problem.html, she had been berated by 3 other comments and had deleted the post.
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red19fire posted:I would be willing to bet he's got other statuses complaining about welfare queens or illegal immigrants. There's homeless people in THIS country, but I'm not going to help them EITHER! Well to be fair there's executives in corporations who might not get a big a raise as they normally do. What about them? They at least work!
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"those drat krauts deserve to be hit by a earthquake tsunami for nuking pearl harbor" Most of that was pretty appalling but I have to admit I really laughed at that one because I'm pretty sure that was ironic, especially being in reply to a different one.
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Well, I guess the next time a natural disaster hits a Southern State I am obligated to post "THAT WAS FOR FORT SUMTER!"
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Well, I guess the next time a natural disaster hits a Southern State I am obligated to post "THAT WAS FOR FORT SUMTER!" Alternatively, that was for slavery.
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I really liked how one of them thought it was the USA that was "bombed the poo poo out of" at Pearl Harbour. I mean, I'm sure it wasn't pretty down there, but speaking relative to the levels of bombing that happened in that war, it didn't exactly approach "the poo poo" levels.
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I just saw this making the rounds on Facebook:quote:Sept 11th(NY) Jan 11th(Haiti) & March 11th(Japan).. Weird. Luke 21:10-11 Then Jesus said to his disciples:"Nation will rise against nation, kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes', famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. 'Jesus says to behold I come quickly,[so ask urself r u ready?] [Sad to say many won't repost this msg I've been pointing out that the earthquake in Haiti happened on January 12th.
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The world is as it's always been, therefore apocalypse.  You might want to point out that earthquakes, famines, and tsunamis used to kill a lot more people than they do nowadays, mostly due to people having little in the ways of medicine or decent infrastructure.
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absolutezero posted:I just saw this making the rounds on Facebook: Also that list skips completely over a particular huge tsunami that did not happen on any 11th...
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Got facebook invited to this "event" today, by a high school friend who's in the army (as a flautist).quote:Will You give this to my Daddy? Snopes didn't have this one in particular, but it seems like the wear red and southwest parts are old as dirt (2005 and 2007 respectively)
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Defenestration posted:Snopes didn't have this one in particular, but it seems like the wear red and southwest parts are old as dirt (2005 and 2007 respectively) I've seen this in about every color variation you can think of. Blue, Red, Yellow, Green, ect. It's like a rainbow of dumb.
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absolutezero posted:I just saw this making the rounds on Facebook: So essentially the entirety of human history then.
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quote:The first thing a soldier says when asked 'What can we do to make things better for you?' is.....We need your support and your prayers. You know how I know this is bullshit? I actually fought in Fallujah, and my answer to this question would be: "get me the gently caress out of this shithole." I'm certain I've said it before in this very thread, but THE TROOPS don't need your loving magnets and "support and prayers" and other chickenshit token gestures, they need to not fight in bullshit wars in the first place.
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red19fire posted:You know how I know this is bullshit? I actually fought in Fallujah, and my answer to this question would be: "get me the gently caress out of this shithole." Little off topic question here, and I don't want to derail the thread with a discussion about this stuff, but did you guys get any kind of test for radioactivity or other poisons after Fallujah? Birth defects there are off the charts.
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Orange Devil posted:Little off topic question here, and I don't want to derail the thread with a discussion about this stuff, but did you guys get any kind of test for radioactivity or other poisons after Fallujah? Birth defects there are off the charts. Of course not! I fill out a mental health questionnaire once a year, that's about it. Open air burn pits? Depleted uranium bullets/tank armor? Perfectly Safe! It's almost as if there's a reason 25% of homeless people in major cities are veterans...
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red19fire posted:Of course not! I fill out a mental health questionnaire once a year, that's about it. This bugs me because there's finally studies starting up about the birth defects in Fallujah, but a major question mark is whether it's because of long term exposure to radiation or toxin (or more likely a mix). At least the population of Fallujah is mostly in one place, the US soldiers are all over a continent now with no real way of noticing if they as a population are experiencing increased birth defects in their children. I mean, they could have and nobody would notice because the effect would be dispersed all over a continent.
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red19fire posted:You know how I know this is bullshit? I actually fought in Fallujah, and my answer to this question would be: "get me the gently caress out of this shithole." Haha that would require effort. Magnets and prayers are the easiest way to feel better about yourself without doing jack poo poo. Seriously though I'm really sorry that so many idiots assume all soldiers are happy to do their duty without question and want support as long as it's supporting them in that duty, and may not have their own opinions that run contrary to the people in charge. Essentially they assume you're automatons and that's lovely.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Haha that would require effort. Magnets and prayers are the easiest way to feel better about yourself without doing jack poo poo. It's not just magnets and prayers, they're willing to type up a story about applauding soldiers too, and maybe even wear a colour for a couple fridays.
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