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  That guy in the background. At first I thought he disapproved of Biden, then I remembered that it's Delaware and that's probably a look of approval.
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Nah, that's the DC branch.
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mdemone posted:I bet the physical demands of a 21st-century presidential campaign are just hell on one's mental faculties. If it's anything like as bad as having a newborn baby...let's just say I would not trust myself to make important decisions in such a state. Yeah, campaigning is absurd. Every waking moment for months is spent working on your campaign and it's all just an unending pile of crap to wade through. You're stuck with the same crowd of people every minute that you're not in public or in your bedroom and all of them are trying to pull you in all different directions. All the politicians nominally "on your side" are House-of-Cards wannabes with their own interests, an egocentric worldview, and an undying love of hearing themselves talk. Then there are the actual voters you have to deal with. Talking to people and shaking hands and giving stump speeches all day is actually draining. The days where you spend hours and hours on the phone begging people for money are the easy ones. You just straight up don't get to turn it off - even on "vacation" you still have to color inside the lines to avoid a story. You don't get sick days, because there's only 7 weeks until Election Day and we can't cancel these events. One snap in public can cost you months of hard work, and even one mis-speak in private can cost you heavily is support. And so much of it is just completely out of your control no matter how hard you work. Not to mention that at the end of the marathon you get told in dribs and drabs over the course of a long night what the course of your life will look like for the next couple of years - where you're going to live and what you'll be doing is entirely contingent upon that. And all of that is for a local race. If you're doing something state-wide or Presidential, you're spending half your life in a car or bus (or plane) and you're spending most nights in a cheap-rear end hotel and eating lovely food on the go when you're not doing some dumb fundraising dinner where the tickets are $100+ and the entree's worse than Applebee's. Jackson Taus fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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I was able to get into a $1000 fundraiser (as a last minute fill in), and that food was amazing. They had a Top Chef contestant cater.
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Joementum posted:Today in ongoing coverage of Joe Biden's existence. Can they're just be a honorary life-time position for Biden? I don't want him to run for the Dem. nomination, but I also never want him to go away. Keep on shinning you crazy Biden.
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The Puppet Master posted:Can they're just be a honorary life-time position for Biden? I don't want him to run for the Dem. nomination, but I also never want him to go away. Vice Presidents don't have term limits. Just sayin.
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Maybe he can badger his replacement to step aside and let him be senator again.
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The Puppet Master posted:Can they're just be a honorary life-time position for Biden? I don't want him to run for the Dem. nomination, but I also never want him to go away. Ambassador to the Confederate States.
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Joementum posted:Today in ongoing coverage of Joe Biden's existence. As a Delaware native, I'm so proud to have given America the gift of Joe Biden  (And Capriotti's is loving amazing.)
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The New York Times is having some fun at Aqua Buddha's expense. See if you can spot it at the end of this.
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ufarn posted:The New York Times is having some fun at Aqua Buddha's expense. See if you can spot it at the end of this. Ugh  Benghazi
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Malcolm posted:I was pretty proud of him the way he dodged that shoe, you have to admit he was pretty on the ball there. Standing strong for American values while Nouri al-Maliki limp-wristedly swipes at the air. I have never noticed that he (Bush) grins after the first shoe is thrown. Probably wasn't expecting to dodge it. It's a global difference between that and this, where Republican grins are concerned: 
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An interesting article in the Times over the holiday weekend on efforts by the Clintons to repair relations with African-American political leaders after 2008. Whether it's a sign of lessons learned or pure cynicism is open to debate, but I'm hoping it's the former. If a candidate of color runs in the primary and gets traction, I guess we'll see.
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Interesting use of "blacks". Is that what the NYT style manual reads?
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No clue, but it definitely does jump out at you when you read it.
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I noticed that Frank Rich also uses it. Maybe it is. Let's hope this outreach effort means Biden won't be talking about putting people back in chains.
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I don't have my stylebook on hand to define it, but as far as I know "Blacks" and "Black Americans" is the preferred terminology - particularly when you aren't speaking specifically about African-Americans who have African heritage. It's broadly used in NYT and AP articles.
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Black is a better term to describe the group in question. When people say African Americans they mean black people. African American could also describe Arab immigrants from North Africa, or Afrikaner immigrants from South Africa, and they aren't the people that the term is meant to describe.
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Armyman25 posted:Black is a better term to describe the group in question. When people say African Americans they mean black people. African American could also describe Arab immigrants from North Africa, or Afrikaner immigrants from South Africa, and they aren't the people that the term is meant to describe. And just in general calling a black guy from Africa "African-American" is incorrect, just like calling a native born Chinese person "Asian-American" would be wrong. It's probably appropriate to use AA to describe the particular native black society in the US though, as they are a distinctive group from native Africans and have been for some time.
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computer parts posted:And just in general calling a black guy from Africa "African-American" is incorrect, just like calling a native born Chinese person "Asian-American" would be wrong. Which works well until you have to describe an Afro-Caribbean or African immigrant to the United States who wasn't raised in the same cultural context as the people most people associate with African-American.
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computer parts posted:a black guy I may be imagining this, but in my whitewashed upbringing "a black guy" was acceptable, but "a black" was not, as it sounds like makes a person into an object. Same applies to "blacks", rather than something like what you said, which reads fine. It's also the difference between "He's Jewish" and "He's a Jew", the latter doesn't seem to convey the same respect as the former. All that said, I'm pretty sure that the NYTs article was worded awkwardly to imply it was an awkward thing she was doing.
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It's just that any time somebody starts a sentence with "oh boy, THE BLACKS..." you almost know that what's coming isn't good. In those rare cases where you need to refer to all of the black people, it's appropriate. I can't imagine a more appropriate time to use the word than "the Clintons, pivoting to black people." Clinton, literally making a pivoting motion in front of black people
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I can't really think of an example where "blacks" is more appropriate than "black people," except for perhaps making your headline fit a character-limit.
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It's never acceptable to put "the" in front of the name of an ethnic group. It's as big a douchebag giveaway as calling women "females".
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Cheekio posted:I may be imagining this, but in my whitewashed upbringing "a black guy" was acceptable, but "a black" was not, as it sounds like makes a person into an object. Same applies to "blacks", rather than something like what you said, which reads fine. It completely depends on the context an individual has heard a particular phrase used in. To me, "Jewish person" and "Jew" are both completely innocuous, but then I didn't grow up around the sort of people who use "Jew" as an insult. On the other hand, I know that calling a person from China "a Chinese" is no more insulting than calling someone from Scotland "a Scot", but somehow using "Chinese" as a noun leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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haveblue posted:It's never acceptable to put "the" in front of the name of an ethnic group. It's as big a douchebag giveaway as calling women "females". I tried for about ten minutes to put "the" or "a" in front of women, females, ladies, the whole gamut, and when it all sounded fine I realized I might be more sexist than I thought.
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Cheekio posted:I tried for about ten minutes to put "the" or "a" in front of women, females, ladies, the whole gamut, and when it all sounded fine I realized I might be more sexist than I thought. "A ladies" just makes you grammatically unskilled.
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"The females" makes a fedora materialize on your head. It is a bad quality fedora.
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Cheekio posted:
I think he means referring to women as "females", which a lot of women feel objectifies them, because it refers to their gender (female). Since the word for "female human" is "woman", using "female" instead of "woman" is seen as emphasizing "you have a vagina" over "you are a person".
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Patter Song posted:Which works well until you have to describe an Afro-Caribbean or African immigrant to the United States who wasn't raised in the same cultural context as the people most people associate with African-American. My parents are from Morocco and I'm olive skinned at best, if not white as hell, yet it would be straight up inaccurate to describe me as anything other than African-American given the current style parameters. What now?
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Perennial almost-candidate Donald Trump decided to boldly declare his exceptionalism today.
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:My parents are from Morocco and I'm olive skinned at best, if not white as hell, yet it would be straight up inaccurate to describe me as anything other than African-American given the current style parameters. What now? Paper bag test - it's the only way to be sure. Though perhaps for the future-proofing the NYT should switch to RGB: "Hillary Clinton pivots to <F5F5DC voters" I thought "black" was a consciously chosen label campaigned for by the black political movement to replace coloured in the sixties?
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:My parents are from Morocco and I'm olive skinned at best, if not white as hell, yet it would be straight up inaccurate to describe me as anything other than African-American given the current style parameters. What now? You'd be considered Moroccan American because the African part of African American is generally understood to mean sub-Saharan African. Yes that's problematic as all hell.
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Stormagetiton posted:I think he means referring to women as "females", which a lot of women feel objectifies them, because it refers to their gender (female). Since the word for "female human" is "woman", using "female" instead of "woman" is seen as emphasizing "you have a vagina" over "you are a person".
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comes along bort posted:You'd be considered Moroccan American because the African part of African American is generally understood to mean sub-Saharan African. Yes that's problematic as all hell. As a Canadian, the fetish you all have for finely parsing and hyphenating ethnicity and skin colour is loving insane. When I lived in Colorado, the deep need to separate 'hispanic' from 'white' creeped me out big time.
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The theoretical question that I can't find a satisfactory answer for is: how far removed from an ancestral homeland can you be and still claim the label? Most (X)-American family trees need to go back multiple generations to find an actual (X). Does it stretch indefinitely? I have the same conceptual problem with my own «French-Canadian» descent- the last French subject in my ancestry was like 250 years ago. (That said, I use Québécois, it's simpler and actually actual) Basically, how can we best express the different communal experiences of a Citizen of [Distant/Recent] Foreign Ancestry? Amusingly, I'd say Obama has a pretty good case for being African-American, being the son of a Kenyan and a Kansan. Disclaimer: None of the above should be taken as denying the agency/right of communities to define themselves as they see fit; if they want a name, they'll take it, and my pedantic musings are irrelevant.
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Do you feel like you are, by virtue of your lineage, part of a distinct culture within your country which is not the dominant culture? Would you like to identify yourself as such? Then it is probably appropriate for you to use a [culture]-[nationality] label.
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Ronald McReagan posted:Do you feel like you are, by virtue of your lineage, part of a distinct culture within your country which is not the dominant culture? Would you like to identify yourself as such? Then it is probably appropriate for you to use a [culture]-[nationality] label. Or if you're Jim Webb and you want to lay claim to being extra white. 
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