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tonedef131 posted:I was looking at this one. gently caress don't make me buy a centrifuge
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Halloween Jack posted:So what kind of cocktails can I make with blood? I assume I'll need Carpano Antica. It wasn't a cocktail, it was for cooking. There was an episode of Hannibal on TV where he talked about centrifugating blood and using the plasma as a sweet sauce over tomatoes. Jose Andrιs was the food consultant on the show, but none of his cookbooks has any mention of cooking with blood. The only information I could find was that he gave a lecture where he hinted that he knew a lot about the culinary applications of blood, but since he's holding all this info close to his vest I decided to get a centrifuge and try centrifugating blood for myself to see if I could unlock his secrets. Unfortunately the blood I tried wouldn't separate. The butcher shop that supplied the blood for me said they didn't add any anti-coagulants, but who knows, maybe they did and the guy who talked to me on the phone didn't know what he was talking about. I asked Dave Arnold about it but it made him scratch his head too. The only solution I can think of is buying a $4000 centrifuge with way more g-force, or waiting for the centrifuge kickstarter that Dave keeps hinting about. So, for a while the centrifuge sat in storage until I recently got Liquid Intelligence and decided to try out some cocktails. If I were going to play around with plasma in cocktails: supposedly plasma carries your blood sugars so it is sweet to the taste. It might be worth investigating whether it could be used as a sweetener in a savory cocktail (pasteurized first, of course). I dunno, maybe a bloody bloody mary. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Steve Yun posted:It wasn't a cocktail, it was for cooking. There was an episode of Hannibal on TV where he talked about centrifugating blood and using the plasma as a sweet sauce over tomatoes. Jose Andrιs was the food consultant on the show, but none of his cookbooks has any mention of cooking with blood. The only information I could find was that he gave a lecture where he hinted that he knew a lot about the culinary applications of blood, but since he's holding all this info close to his vest I decided to get a centrifuge and try centrifugating blood for myself to see if I could unlock his secrets. Unfortunately the blood I tried wouldn't separate. The butcher shop that supplied the blood for me said they didn't add any anti-coagulants, but who knows, maybe they did and the guy who talked to me on the phone didn't know what he was talking about. I asked Dave Arnold about it but it made him scratch his head too. The only solution I can think of is buying a $4000 centrifuge with way more g-force, or waiting for the centrifuge kickstarter that Dave keeps hinting about. So, for a while the centrifuge sat in storage until I recently got Liquid Intelligence and decided to try out some cocktails. As weird and gross as this sounds, I think you have it backwards. If the blood is allowed to coagulate, I don't think you aren't going to be able to separate out the red cells. When you collect human blood or animal blood for medical/research use, it is usually kept from clotting with heparin, which binds up the Ca2+ that the clotting factors require. I think you can also accomplish this with EDTA, but that's just a vague recollection. If it's unclotted blood, a quick google leads me to believe 200g or above should be sufficient. Basically I think you're probably starting with poor quality blood that has either clotted or lysed, so you can't achieve separation. You'll need it either fresher or with anticoagulant.
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Thanks for the info, that's the best lead I've had in over a year
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Steve Yun posted:It wasn't a cocktail, it was for cooking. There was an episode of Hannibal on TV where he talked about centrifugating blood and using the plasma as a sweet sauce over tomatoes.
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... says the guy named Halloween Jack! ***** Okay so my friend is throwing a party in two weeks and asked if I could do cocktails since she saw me posting some photos of cocktails I made. I've never bartended before. It's going to be about 35 people in an apartment. She'll pay for all the ingredients. I was thinking of doing mostly pre-batched drinks and a few for show: - Banana rum justino (fruit blended in liquor, then centrifugated) - can be pre-batched - Some other fruit/liquor justino - can be pre-batched - Manhattans - can be pre-batched - Gin and tonics - can be partially pre-batched - Tea Time (Carbonated milk-washed vodka Arnold Palmer) - can be pre-batched - Rum martinez - this one's for show - Old fashioned/Kentucky mule yes/no? - Some carbonated centrifugated juices for the non-drinkers I also want to do a couple red hot poker drinks, but that might be too dangerous in a crowded apartment... I'm thinking of putting these on a menu to steer people towards ordering these things since I don't know poo poo about bartending in general. Any advice for someone who has never done this before? Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Why would you put blood on tomatoes instead of using it for something sensible like pancakes?
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Sweet Custom Van posted:My husband's 35th birthday is coming up and he wants to try a flight of tequilas. I'd like to pick up six small (750 mL) bottles so he hand his friends can have a bit on the rocks each. He's currently into aged tequilas but the last one he tried was aged in bourbon casks and he can't stand bourbon, so I'd need to steer clear of anything along those lines. A new or "middle-aged" (I don't know tequila terms) to throw into the mix would be nice for contrast. Currently, his favorite is the aged Herradura, and my price range is roughly $30-$40 a bottle. Suggestions? I already know to stay away from Tito's. Tequila is a weak spot of mine, but I really like Fortaleza reposado (reposados are the "middle-aged," spending from 1-11 months in oak) and Tequila #2 (which is the repo of the lineup Tequila 123). Both are 40-50 though, I believe. I also like Tequila #1, which is the blanco and will be 30-40. Haven't tried Fortaleza Blanco and but I imagine it's good.
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Waci posted:Why would you put blood on tomatoes instead of using it for something sensible like pancakes? Tomatoes and pancakes sounds terrible
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 16:56 |
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Steve Yun posted:the centrifuge kickstarter that Dave keeps hinting about. Steve Yun posted:Gin and tonics - can be partially pre-batched
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 18:23 |
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I'm going to carbonate most of the gin & tonic, and add centrifuge clarified lime juice just before serving
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 20:39 |
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tonedef131 posted:As in the Booker and Dax searzall follow up project? That may be worth waiting for.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 21:23 |
Well, trying some campari on the rocks for the first time and yuuuup that's pretty bitter. Definitely a good mouthfeel, though, orangey and just a little sweet. Definitely looking forward to making negronis with this. I'll try both my nice gin and my kirkland gin and report back when I do. ...huh, it got noticeably more palatable once the ice melted a little. silvergoose fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Mar 3, 2016 |
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I love Campari with a splash of soda. It's funy, I really hated Campari when I first had it. I've since gone through about three bottles of the stuff. If you want something not as biter go for some Aperol. It was a winner for my friends who can't stand Campari.
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syntaxfunction posted:I love Campari with a splash of soda. It's funy, I really hated Campari when I first had it. I've since gone through about three bottles of the stuff. Naw, I'm fine with it, I thought the feel was really cool and can't wait to try it in drinks. Should probably get some soda too, for when I feel like Campari but don't feel like gin.
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Steve Yun posted:... says the guy named Halloween Jack! I actually wrote up a guide about how to do this several years ago when I was making drinks for parties in college. I'll post the whole thing tomorrow if I remember, but here are some basics: 1) Set up near a sink. 2) prepare your juice and syrups in advance. You don't wanna be cutting citrus and measuring out sugar on the spot. 3) Make sure you have at least two, ideally three sets of mixing glasses/shakers, as well as spare jiggers and spoons. 4) 35 people is a lot. I highly recommend trying to find someone to barback for you: replace ingredients, wash equipment, keep track of bottles, etc. 5) Work slowly, close your bottles properly and keep them ordered. You don't wanna lose stuff in the middle of the night. 6) make drinks in batches of 2 or 3. Especially at the beginning of the night, announce which cocktails you're making and let people sign up for one, rather than having them order off a menu. Making 3 Manhattans takes the same amount of time as making one, but a Manhattan, a G&T, and a Margarita will take forever (relatively speaking). 7) Get 3 times as much ice as you can imagine needing. Ice is cheap and running out is a disaster. 8) Take time to make yourself a drink. Something long and stiff is best. Don't get caught making drinks for 2 hours and winding up thirsty. 9) I recommend having a batch of Limmer's ready to put out once you've made 2 rounds. That way you can take a break, have some fun, and people will still have drinks. Let me know if you have any more questions, I've done this at parties a number of times. It's fun but quite tiring.
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silvergoose posted:Naw, I'm fine with it, I thought the feel was really cool and can't wait to try it in drinks. Should probably get some soda too, for when I feel like Campari but don't feel like gin. Negronis are nice but Campari and soda is my ideal go-to drink. Flame an orange peel or throw a dash of bitters on that sucker if you're feeling fancy but either way it's gonna be very nice and easy-drinking
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Steve Yun posted:... says the guy named Halloween Jack! I think you're severely underestimating how much work this is going to be and you should simplify your menu to 3-4 items with only one not prebatched, because with what you've got there and the fact that you've never bartended before as it stands I just imagine a lot of people standing around waiting for you to Get to them
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On average, how many drinks do you think an average person is going to drink in a night? I can kind of figure out how much to pre-batch if I can get a rough estimate of how many servings to make per person Should I roughly estimate 4oz per drink? Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Mar 3, 2016 |
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For a mixed group of people that are drinkers you can assume 3 drinks per person on average. Mitigating factors (weekday party, older people, work-related) will knock it down to two per. The ounces per drink depends on the drink. A Tiki punch is always higher in volume than an Old Fashioned. Calculate the pour size of your various drinks and write it on the bottles if you wanna batch stuff. Incidentally, this is why I started making punch instead.
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Fart Car '97 posted:I think you're severely underestimating how much work this is going to be and you should simplify your menu to 3-4 items with only one not prebatched, because with what you've got there and the fact that you've never bartended before as it stands I just imagine a lot of people standing around waiting for you to Get to them Yeah even with access to like an actual bar and commercial juicing equipment/kitchen stuff I would be extremely overwhelmed trying to throw together a menu of that scale all by myself, let alone in someone's apartment. Pick like 2 punches and one special cocktail and that'll be plenty for 35 people.
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Well most of the prebatch stuff will literally be "pull jar out of ice chest, pour into glass with a big ice cube, serve." That should be fine, right?
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Kenning if you have that guide I'd love to read it!
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Okay it sounds like it's going to be 40 people, maybe more. I'm going to simplify it down to a lot fewer drinks, maybe 4-5, all pre-made except for one. The host said that making fewer drinks will give a chance for everyone to try each drink once, which is a good point. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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Steve Yun posted:Well most of the prebatch stuff will literally be "pull jar out of ice chest, pour into glass with a big ice cube, serve." That should be fine, right? What's the fun in that though? Even prebatched stuff should involve a shake or stir if only for showmanship's sake. They're hiring a bartender. People will appreciate it a lot more if you have a deceptively simple menu but it 'feels' like having a bartender (deceptively being the operative word). What we're trying to impress upon you is that the challenge isn't the act of making the drinks, the challenge is keeping the logistics running smoothly. It's keeping everything organized, stocked, cleaned, and ready for the next drink while ALSO making drinks (and being spocial) that makes bartending hard.
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Steve Yun posted:Kenning if you have that guide I'd love to read it! Let's see if I can make the formatting work... quote:How to Mix Drinks I designed this as a guide for people in my professional foreign service fraternity, but frankly throwing a good party is pretty much the same no matter who you are. I'm honestly surprised by how little my understanding of party-throwing and drinks-making has changed. The system works! Kenning fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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ABC finally got some Cherry Heering in stock after I pestered them for months. I just wanted to make Blood & Sands but anything else cool I should play around with? edit: and now it's time to play the same game again and bug them for Rothman Apricot
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goferchan posted:ABC finally got some Cherry Heering in stock after I pestered them for months. I just wanted to make Blood & Sands but anything else cool I should play around with? I made a Remember the Maine the other night. I think it's out of the PDT book. 2 oz rye, .75 oz carpano, .5 oz heering, barspoon absinthe, couple dashes peychauds, stir, lemon twist. Fruity with a chocolaty finish.
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syntaxfunction posted:Aside from Aviations what are some good simple cocktails that call for Maraschino? I have a full bottle and although I don't hate it I'm not super fond of it right now either. Any good ones to ease me into it? Going straight up for it on the rocks or neat isn't going to do it for me. I got some Maraschino recently, and I was excited to find this cocktail: http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1016392-the-catcher. 3 ounces rye whiskey 1 ounce maraschino liqueur 1 ½ ounces lime juice 1 ounce simple syrup Dash grapefruit bitters Lime wedges, for garnish I enjoyed the mix pretty well, and I was excited to find a use for my grapefruit bittters. I do have a grapefruit itself at the moment for the express purpose of finally making a Papa Doble, hopefully later today.
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# ? Mar 6, 2016 22:47 |
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3oz rye and 1oz maraschino? Good loving lord.
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# ? Mar 6, 2016 23:32 |
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If that's what's catching I shudder to see who's pitching.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 00:41 |
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Welp. All you fuckers finally made me get a centrifuge and like $130 of liquor for last words and special projects. e: at least last words are worth it.
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# ? Mar 8, 2016 04:05 |
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gently caress yeah they are.
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# ? Mar 8, 2016 08:57 |
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I know this is probably heresy, but I like aviations a lot better than last words. Last words are more bitter than I was imagining them.
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# ? Mar 8, 2016 09:37 |
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It's called a balanced drink you plebian. No but really aviation's are amazing. Playing with different maraschino liqueurs and creme de violettes keeps it fresh too. You can also try a different brand of maraschino if the last word is too bitter. Luxardo will be drier than, say, Cristiani. Cristiani is much more cherry-like though, and cuts through a lot of the more subtle flavors in part.
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I just got back from spending $450 to replenish my depleted liquor cabinet. First thing I made when I got back was Aviations with the last of my Cristiani maraschino. I got Lazzaroni this time, as I'm a big fan of their amaretto. Sadly, they no longer carry Rothman & Winter, so my creme de violette will have to last awhile, and no apricot liqueur until I can find another source.
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What's a good use of celery bitters besides Bloody Marys/Micheladas?
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# ? Mar 8, 2016 20:24 |
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Martinis.
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# ? Mar 8, 2016 20:30 |
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fourth regiments and vegetal gin cocktails of all sorts
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I make a celery syrup for a very citrusy gin cocktail with fresh cucumber. Super refreshing.
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