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beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop

Carth Dookie posted:

I just discovered this extremely cursed thing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aveUEZkcQno



and am very upset that my Katana doesn't model it. Worst amp ever 0/10

It would be awesome before a volume pedal

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former glory
Jul 11, 2011

80k posted:

So I just finished this today:





Looks awesome. Take an angle grinder to the sides of the body plus a few whacks of a chain and it should be :discourse:

I wonder why they don't make more mid-range+ guitars with stainless frets. It might not be something a beginner would value, but people buying the n+1 would definitely find that appealing.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
I'm heartbroken to Miku you pedal is so expensive. I think it's extremely cool but most people who demo it just use it flat wrong. Everyone's trying to use it as a mission pedal instead of using it as a synth with a guitar controller. The times I have heard people use it to try and play vocal melodies it sounds great like singing in Animal Crossing. I think in Ola's video he called it Build Your Own Babymetal.

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
I want an EHX Freeze, and I can't decide if they resell for near MSRP because they're niche and nobody buys them or because they rock and nobody sells them. I need to recalibrate my brain in pedal world. Common stuff you can buy rips for $20, but this weird stuff I guess I just need to drop the hammer. Even the digital delay pedals with hold functions are $100-150.

I absolutely LOVE the Beat Buddy mini I got for Christmas. I can throw on just about anything with the bass and just groove my arpeggios and scales all night long.

DOPE FIEND KILLA G
Jun 4, 2011

gently caress i really want a pedal to turn my guitar into animal crossing voices

Huxley posted:

I want an EHX Freeze, and I can't decide if they resell for near MSRP because they're niche and nobody buys them or because they rock and nobody sells them. I need to recalibrate my brain in pedal world. Common stuff you can buy rips for $20, but this weird stuff I guess I just need to drop the hammer. Even the digital delay pedals with hold functions are $100-150.

freeze is one of my favorite pedals. you can do a lot of insanely cool poo poo with it. i especially like fiddling with pitch shifters after it. i think its a combination of it being such a useful, simple pedal design, and also the EHX Super-Ego line having so much functional overlap while being more eye-popping to most

DOPE FIEND KILLA G fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Feb 5, 2021

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Huxley posted:

I want an EHX Freeze, and I can't decide if they resell for near MSRP because they're niche and nobody buys them or because they rock and nobody sells them. I need to recalibrate my brain in pedal world. Common stuff you can buy rips for $20, but this weird stuff I guess I just need to drop the hammer. Even the digital delay pedals with hold functions are $100-150.

I absolutely LOVE the Beat Buddy mini I got for Christmas. I can throw on just about anything with the bass and just groove my arpeggios and scales all night long.

I can see how it would be a really fun pedal, but lol the demo video from Reverb makes it sound like bagpipes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFOWh49HaM

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
i sold my freeze because the quiet switch was still too loving loud. i know i can do the softswitch mod but i don’t have a drill for that poo poo

noisy click aside, it is a good pedal

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Ok Comboomer posted:

Katana = BOSS = Roland, and the Miku Stomp is KORG

you'll have to just buy one :shrug:

Kind of off-topic but can you imagine being a normal person trying to get a job and it happens to be at either of these companies. The intense amounts of "lore" regarding every stitch of their products and every cult member/employee has committed it to memory has got to be wild.

Then again, that might be exactly what an uber-dork imagines it is like*.

*I was a contractor for Disney for 4 months. Even though I wrote software I was required to work on-site at their Frank Gehry-designed headquarters in Anaheim. The atmosphere was exactly as described above.

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Spanish Manlove posted:

I can see how it would be a really fun pedal, but lol the demo video from Reverb makes it sound like bagpipes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFOWh49HaM

Watching Bill Frisell use it on the first part of this video is neat. He doesn't use it as a low drone but instead sets it like a shimmer tone and plays underneath it. Then he starts adding in delays and stuff gets weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcQtZeNSyY4

I appreciate that Bill Frisell's home setup is a cafeteria chair and a bunch of poo poo on the floor.

beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop
Frisell's had a Freeze drat near since it was released. I saw him live with a trio and he used it on almost every tune

Luna
May 31, 2001

A hand full of seeds and a mouthful of dirt


Huxley posted:

Watching Bill Frisell use it on the first part of this video is neat. He doesn't use it as a low drone but instead sets it like a shimmer tone and plays underneath it. Then he starts adding in delays and stuff gets weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcQtZeNSyY4

I appreciate that Bill Frisell's home setup is a cafeteria chair and a bunch of poo poo on the floor.

God drat I love him. He's a guitar hero Bernie Sanders.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Bill should be considered an edge case for what you can do with any given piece of musical kit. I love that he does his quiet American songbook stuff as well as playing with Naked City (seen here featuring a vocalist famous for driving a bulldozer through the stage wall of a venue).

Wait, is this the stupid music poo poo thread? I think I'm crossing the streams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfwhG1KtQp4

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
I think running across this set with Frisell and Thomas Morgan was what really focused me on what I wanted to be doing with music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dyet0iX2EU&t=1609s

I've got a good tele and an OK bass and a copy of Audacity, and if I give it enough time I'll learn enough about composition and mixing and actual playing I'll be able to create stuff, not ever this good, but maybe good enough to be proud of.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I'd like some advice on barre chords. When I play an F chord during a song, I notice that it sounds like crap. I think it's going way out of tune. If I play each note of a normal open chord into a tuner, the fretted notes are either in tune or a little bit sharp. But when I play the F, all six notes are between a little and extremely sharp. I've tried loosening my grip, which seems to help, but they still don't get down in tune, and I start to lose notes (especially the C on the B string) from lack of pressure. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here? Is it just a matter of learning the "right" amount of pressure to keep them as in tune as possible, or is there something else I should be looking at?

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
I think I've mentioned it before here but if Boss reissued the Slow Gear after something like 35 years of it being out of production I would pre-order the gently caress out of one.

DOPE FIEND KILLA G
Jun 4, 2011

give me a waza slow gear, waza feedbacker, and a waza digital sampler please :getin:

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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I remember someone's description of the feedbacker as a pedal with a tiny man inside with a tiny synthesizer, and when you step on the pedal he plays the same note you're playing on his synthesizer.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

I filed down the nut on the Avocadocaster so it was down to Fender spec at the first fret and that resolved most of the playability issues. Tinkering with the string height at the bridge fixed the rest. I discovered that the fretboard radius was 12' which is a lot flatter than I expected.

I learned that I can get the playability of a hacked together eBay parts bin POS to be about as good as my American factory Tele (though the tele still feels nicer because the neck finish is much, much better). No amount of fettling will make the $30 loaded pick guard with what must be sub $15 worth of pickups sound really good though.

They sound reasonable, and probably way better than they should for the price, but I'm dropping in a set of properly wired v4 noiseless fender pickups. So any crappiness at that point is all me. :v:

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

ColdPie posted:

I'd like some advice on barre chords. When I play an F chord during a song, I notice that it sounds like crap. I think it's going way out of tune. If I play each note of a normal open chord into a tuner, the fretted notes are either in tune or a little bit sharp. But when I play the F, all six notes are between a little and extremely sharp. I've tried loosening my grip, which seems to help, but they still don't get down in tune, and I start to lose notes (especially the C on the B string) from lack of pressure. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here? Is it just a matter of learning the "right" amount of pressure to keep them as in tune as possible, or is there something else I should be looking at?

It’s a tough chord for me too. I think it’s a mix of the sweet spot for pressure and the distance from the barre to the fret.

Robot Arms
Sep 19, 2008

R!
Like everything else, I think playing barre chords is mostly about practice. Especially because when you are starting your fingers aren't very strong yet, so you have to squeeze the hell out of barre chords. It feels much more gentle to me, but I've got a lot of years of strength in these fingers. Also the action on my guitar is pretty low.

But also, look at where you are playing it. When I play barre chords, I put the barre right behind the fret—like almost on top of it, but not quite. So I'm not bending the string sharp—not enough to notice, anyway.

If you're sure you are doing it right and it's still bending sharp, your action could be too high at the nut. If I slide a pick under my strings at the 1st fret, it pushes the string up. If you have more clearance, it would make sense why you are hearing more sharpness.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

ColdPie posted:

I'd like some advice on barre chords. When I play an F chord during a song, I notice that it sounds like crap. I think it's going way out of tune. If I play each note of a normal open chord into a tuner, the fretted notes are either in tune or a little bit sharp. But when I play the F, all six notes are between a little and extremely sharp. I've tried loosening my grip, which seems to help, but they still don't get down in tune, and I start to lose notes (especially the C on the B string) from lack of pressure. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here? Is it just a matter of learning the "right" amount of pressure to keep them as in tune as possible, or is there something else I should be looking at?

Check the nut is cut correctly. Are the first fret notes sharp when played individually too?

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

automatic gun for fast, continuous firing

ColdPie posted:

I'd like some advice on barre chords. When I play an F chord during a song, I notice that it sounds like crap. I think it's going way out of tune. If I play each note of a normal open chord into a tuner, the fretted notes are either in tune or a little bit sharp. But when I play the F, all six notes are between a little and extremely sharp. I've tried loosening my grip, which seems to help, but they still don't get down in tune, and I start to lose notes (especially the C on the B string) from lack of pressure. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here? Is it just a matter of learning the "right" amount of pressure to keep them as in tune as possible, or is there something else I should be looking at?

all the advice you've gotten thus far on how to get that barre to sound better is good, but if you want to just play an F chord during songs the barre is honestly super impractical a lot of the time. try just playing an f major triad; there're tons of ways to play it on the neck, but a really good easy voicing for it is xx321x. this voicing will work for literally any major chord, your root is on the D string.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

You might also be bending the entire chord sharp if you're clenching your hand and pulling on the strings.

Guitars, gotta love 'em.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Siivola posted:

You might also be bending the entire chord sharp if you're clenching your hand and pulling on the strings.

Guitars, gotta love 'em.

Or if you're using your arm to pull the chord because your hand alone isn't strong enough, which bends the neck back a teeny bit causing a slight extra tightness in all the strings.

Robot Arms
Sep 19, 2008

R!

Carth Dookie posted:

Or if you're using your arm to pull the chord because your hand alone isn't strong enough, which bends the neck back a teeny bit causing a slight extra tightness in all the strings.

That’s a really good point. I forgot about doing that when I was still building finger strength!

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Thanks all for the feedback.

I think the action is OK. Using some tortexes as feeler gauges, the strings seem to be right at 0.5mm above the first fret. The notes are tuned fine if I just use one finger in the first fret on each string.

Seems like pressure and where I'm placing the bar are probably the culprits here. I stopped myself on a few bad sounding chords, and the bar was usually more towards the middle of the first space than right up on the fret, which is maybe why I'm pressing so hard. Thanks for pointing me in this direction.

creamcorn posted:

all the advice you've gotten thus far on how to get that barre to sound better is good, but if you want to just play an F chord during songs the barre is honestly super impractical a lot of the time. try just playing an f major triad; there're tons of ways to play it on the neck, but a really good easy voicing for it is xx321x. this voicing will work for literally any major chord, your root is on the D string.

You know, I've been wondering if that was the case. I've been using the full chord to practice barre chords, so I skipped the "smaller" F version. It's been on my todo list to learn the xx3211 voicing, but I'll also play with muting the first string. One worry I have with that vs the full barre chord is how "thin" the four string chords sound. I've mostly moved to using open D/F# instead of just D for that reason (it also does that cool moving bass line thing between G and Em). But I should learn it regardless and see how it sounds. Maybe songs that use Fmaj use 4 and 5 string chords more often anyway (C, Am, Dm, etc) so it's less noticeable than songs in G? Thanks for the suggestion.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
Just getting back into guitar after a long hiatus and I don't remember a lot of stuff. My Schecter C1 needs some new strings, and I need someone to tell me what gauge to buy, just to get me started until I get a feel for all this again and can figure out my preference. I play 1 step down most of the time, a lot of stuff like Death or whatever.

Also I think this thing might need a tune up or whatever, I bought it used and it shipped to me. For a higher end guitar it doesn't feel any better than some of my older 3-400 dollar guitars(The strings feel a bit high off the fretboard I think), and it's ability to produce pinch harmonics seems really bad. I don't think it's a me issue even though I suck, otherwise I would occasionally hit one that sounds strong, but I'm wondering if that could be do to needing a tune up as well. Other than that it seems like a cool guitar.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Help when I'm just loving around I'll slide barre chords all over and when it's 0% humidity like it is now my index finger/outside of my palm turn into hamburger after an hour

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

ColdPie posted:

You know, I've been wondering if that was the case. I've been using the full chord to practice barre chords, so I skipped the "smaller" F version. It's been on my todo list to learn the xx3211 voicing, but I'll also play with muting the first string. One worry I have with that vs the full barre chord is how "thin" the four string chords sound. I've mostly moved to using open D/F# instead of just D for that reason (it also does that cool moving bass line thing between G and Em). But I should learn it regardless and see how it sounds. Maybe songs that use Fmaj use 4 and 5 string chords more often anyway (C, Am, Dm, etc) so it's less noticeable than songs in G? Thanks for the suggestion.

Full-on six string chords are great when you have no bass accompaniment. If you're playing with eg. a bass guitar or someone on baritone guitar then dropping the lowest note or two isn't a huge deal because you don't really want to be hogging all the low end anyways.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Drunk Driver Dad posted:

Just getting back into guitar after a long hiatus and I don't remember a lot of stuff. My Schecter C1 needs some new strings, and I need someone to tell me what gauge to buy, just to get me started until I get a feel for all this again and can figure out my preference. I play 1 step down most of the time, a lot of stuff like Death or whatever.

Also I think this thing might need a tune up or whatever, I bought it used and it shipped to me. For a higher end guitar it doesn't feel any better than some of my older 3-400 dollar guitars(The strings feel a bit high off the fretboard I think), and it's ability to produce pinch harmonics seems really bad. I don't think it's a me issue even though I suck, otherwise I would occasionally hit one that sounds strong, but I'm wondering if that could be do to needing a tune up as well. Other than that it seems like a cool guitar.

For a whole step down, something like this 11-52 set should be great

https://www.amazon.com/DAddario-EXL...12661632&sr=8-2

But yeah I recommend getting it to a shop for a Set-Up, which basically means they'll adjust string height, neck relief, intonation, and all the other little things to get it to play comfortable. Most places should be $30 to $50 for it but it makes a huge difference. You can do it yourself if you're handy with tools and want to put in the effort, buuuuuuuuuuut it's just so much easier to send it to a shop.

As to pinch harmonics, you could just be doing it in a wrong position. The cheat is to aim for the bridge side of the neck pickup. That's a super resonant spot for doing pinch harmonics. Also a shitload of distortion helps too

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
OOOOH! just remembered something: Shecter C1s usually have EMGs so I"m betting yours does too so change that 9v if it's been a while

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Gonna recommend using 9s for someone out of practice/finger strength, and also heavily recommending a setup from a pro. Get them together though, so the setup matches the strings.

Dead strings also have less overtones/harmonics, making pinch harmonics harder.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

BonHair posted:

Gonna recommend using 9s for someone out of practice/finger strength, and also heavily recommending a setup from a pro. Get them together though, so the setup matches the strings.

Dead strings also have less overtones/harmonics, making pinch harmonics harder.

9s a whole step down are pretty floppy. I was trying to find a good 10-52 set but couldn't decide on anything to suggest

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.
I prefer D'addario's 10-52 set for D standard. I also tried Ernie Ball and Elixir but they have heavier A and D strings which I don't like.

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I tried to make an all-wound set on Stringjoy and they won't do it. Apparently it's much harder to make and nobody wants to buy a wound treble E!

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I put 9-46 on my mustang cause I thought 42 might be too thin for the short scale length but I was surprised how much thicker the bottom strings felt, I don't like it lol. Also I'm going to try tuning my gretsch that has 10's down to c standard and see how that goes, otherwise I will probably swap them out for 9's

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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I've said it many times before but I keep an SG is drop-A# with 10s on it and it's like playing with actual spaghetti.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
That sounds appealing, to me.

Also look at this crappy Soviet guitar I want it so much
https://reverb.com/item/38713170-jolana-iris-electric-ussr-rare-vintage-electric-guitar-tele-jaguar-jazz

Lol the a string is wound around the head backwards

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

I like how the first piece of info is the ¼ inch jack. Which is exactly the thing I was looking for to be fair.

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mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
I'm a fan of this thing.

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