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I am surprised how well my Gretsch stays in tune in C standard with how hard I dig in. Also drat it is easier to bend chords now. Some stuff does sound a little weird cause of how much my amp/pedal set up caters to really bright tones but otherwise it mostly sounds good. Luckily though I don’t use a lot of open chords cause they sound like complete garbage now
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i have a real bad habit of playing for hours at a time without plugging into my amp...think i should probably get an acoustic
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Feb 9, 2021 07:50
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I spend a lot of time playing unplugged. I like to tell myself it's zen and I'm allowing myself to hear the guitar without distractions, but the truth is I'm lazy.
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Feb 9, 2021 07:57
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I've found it's handy to have a tiny little battery amp like a Danelectro Honeytone for times when plugging into a proper setup feels like too much of A Thing. Or just get a hollowbody so plugging in becomes optional.
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Feb 9, 2021 11:28
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I spend most of my playing time on unplugged electric, it’s good times.
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Feb 9, 2021 16:57
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I spend a lot of time playing unplugged electric bass.  It's actually not ideal.
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Feb 9, 2021 17:27
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Snowy posted:I just want more updates on rescued Guitar Center trash guitars I just want the courage to go looking in the dumpsters behind the strip mall that Guitar Center is in here.
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Feb 9, 2021 17:59
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So I’m a time chaser. I’ve been looking for that perfect time for a very long time and have discovered that a Tele gives me the sound I want. The problem is that at least on my Tele the sustain is lacking. I spent most of the last decade just using lp style guitars. I’ve done some digging and found a company that makes adapter to install Tele pickups in a standard routed lp. My question is if I do this will I achieve the time I want of Tele sound with more sustain or am I going to get a crappy blend of the two? I feel like it’s worth trying on a firefly since they’re not terribly expensive and make good mod platforms. I’ve got one already that I put bootstrap pafs in and it’s awesome so I’m hoping to do the same with Tele pups and the adapters. Thanks goons!
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Feb 9, 2021 18:43
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It will probably just sound like a tele that's made of mahogany
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Feb 9, 2021 18:54
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The short scale will also make it sound a lot less bright. edit I'm curious can you link to the adapters? I want to know if it's a whole bridge replacement or just a ring that has 3 screw holes because that's going to make a huge difference.
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Feb 9, 2021 18:57
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Lumpy posted:I just want the courage to go looking in the dumpsters behind the strip mall that Guitar Center is in here. Go at night bring a flashlight wear gloves don't be disappointed if you don't find anything. I check it a few times a week since it's like 5 mins from my house but most of the time there's nothing exciting.
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Feb 9, 2021 19:31
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Baron von Eevl posted:The short scale will also make it sound a lot less bright. Here's what I was looking at http://www.guitarheads.net/products/hardware/plates/puringconversionhbtele.html Only problem is they're metal and made for flattop guitars so I'd have to shim down an existing mounting ring to accept the new ones or bend them which I'm not above. I'm still looking around though. I'm sure someone makes a metal converter for carved tops. Edit: I also found these for the bridge: https://www.guitarfetish.com/Humbucker-Rout-adapter-ring-Fits-Telereg-Bridge-Pickup-THREE-COLORS_p_4350.html I was shying away from them since I've been lead to believe the tele tone comes from the metal mount for the pups. stoopidmunkey fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Feb 9, 2021 |
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Feb 9, 2021 19:37
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stoopidmunkey posted:Here's what I was looking at http://www.guitarheads.net/products/hardware/plates/puringconversionhbtele.html This makes me uncomfortable. The metal plate is part of it but as stated I'd be real worried about the different scale length really changing things. Also put a p90 in the neck if you do this.
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Feb 9, 2021 19:59
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Aren't sustain pedals designed precisely for this problem? Or do they do something else? This fella https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CS400ped--behringer-cs400-compressor-sustainer-pedal
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Feb 9, 2021 20:07
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Huxley posted:Aren't sustain pedals designed precisely for this problem? Or do they do something else? Compressors will add sustain when set right, yes. There's a weird feel thing where the actual note attack doesn't really change, just that the fade will last longer, so it depends which part of the note you want to keep sustained. Then again I've literally never played a guitar that didn't sustain 'enough' so perhaps I'm not the target market. I use comps for limiting and note consistency and that's about it. Sufficient volume or distortion will turn any guitar into a drone machine.
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Feb 9, 2021 20:13
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stoopidmunkey posted:Here's what I was looking at http://www.guitarheads.net/products/hardware/plates/puringconversionhbtele.html The first ones look like mirrored acrylic not metal.
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Feb 9, 2021 20:15
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Teles sustain just fine, look elsewhere in your chain for the sustain you seek.
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Feb 9, 2021 21:53
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Semihollows have better resonance at the cost of sustain right? Thinlines would be bigger sound but less sustain, I wanna make sure I've got that right.
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Feb 9, 2021 22:05
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I'm pretty sure natural sustain is mostly about having strings firmly connected to a big, heavy chunk of wood. If your guitar is lighter or has holes in it or has a bridge with a less firm connection to the body (like a trem), it should lose some sustain. Since teles are basically just a big, heavy chunk of wood with the strings going through the body—about as firm a connection as you can get—they should have great sustain. One thing to try, though. I think I learned this here. It's possible your bolt-on neck isn't firmly seated. One thing you can do is loosen all of the neck bolts, then tighten them back up. The string tension will pull the neck in tight. It could make a difference.
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Feb 9, 2021 23:32
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Robot Arms posted:If your guitar is lighter or has holes in it or has a bridge with a less firm connection to the body (like a trem), it should lose some sustain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYK0XX-nDVI One data point at least says no. (Trem vs fixed bridge might though). Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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Feb 10, 2021 00:29
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Thanks for the replies. I’m going to make sure everything on the guitar is tight.
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Feb 10, 2021 00:39
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mango sentinel posted:Semihollows have better resonance at the cost of sustain right? Thinlines would be bigger sound but less sustain, I wanna make sure I've got that right. No. This is pretty much all horseshit. The sustain arms race is marketing nonsense.
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Feb 10, 2021 00:41
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:No. This is pretty much all horseshit. The sustain arms race is marketing nonsense. However those sustainiac neck pickups are legit
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Spanish Manlove posted:However those sustainiac neck pickups are legit 
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It's also why making electric bodies out of acoustic tonewoods annoys me. Like, if you want a mahog body because the woodgrain finish looks good, ok fine. I am increasingly concerned with where woods are being sourced from on ecological grounds, but fine. But if the whole thing is going to be under a polyurethane paint then make it out of whatever eco friendly wood you can and leave the tonewoods to acoustics (which should also be sustainably sourced). Neck materials are a little different in that they feel different in the hand and I understand people having preferences on that (again, unless it's under a thick lacquer or paint in which case who cares let the truss rod sort it out).
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Feb 10, 2021 00:53
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set neck seems like the most important factor. i have 2 hog bodied guitars and the one with a set neck tends to sustain and resonate sympathetically much more than the bolt on.
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Carth Dookie posted:It's also why making electric bodies out of acoustic tonewoods annoys me. Like, if you want a mahog body because the woodgrain finish looks good, ok fine. I am increasingly concerned with where woods are being sourced from on ecological grounds, but fine. But if the whole thing is going to be under a polyurethane paint then make it out of whatever eco friendly wood you can and leave the tonewoods to acoustics (which should also be sustainably sourced). I've wondered why nobody makes cherry guitars. It's my favorite wood, I might see about making a Tele from some... Dang It Bhabhi! posted:No. This is pretty much all horseshit. The sustain arms race is marketing nonsense. Gotcha
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beer gas canister posted:set neck seems like the most important factor. i have 2 hog bodied guitars and the one with a set neck tends to sustain and resonate sympathetically much more than the bolt on. Maybe. It could be a similar idea to having all your tuners bolted in properly and bridge fixed securely. On the other hand, Martin acoustics swear by the set neck but Taylor doesn't, and I don't notice a difference or loss from my Taylors (but i freely admit its extremely hard to compare apples with apples for acoustics since even 2 examples of the exact same guitar can vary significantly). IMO in acoustics if fixed/bolted makes a difference its negligible, or at least far down the list behind top wood, body wood and bracing, body shape and hell the individuality of the guitar itself. roughly summarized in my opinion: in acoustics its the wood that makes the noise so wood type, top type and bracing, body shape all matter. in electrics its the amp and pickups that make the noise, so the rest is a matter of preference and how it feels to play (ergo and personal appeal of a guitar). Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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Feb 10, 2021 01:24
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:No. This is pretty much all horseshit. The sustain arms race is marketing nonsense. Pretty much! If a guitar lacks sustain then that just means it's got something on the guitar vibrating that shouldn't be. Tighten all your poo poo up and set the goddamn thing up properly and it'll sustain for days. I don't care what guitar it is. The thing tonewood WILL change is resonant frequencies. My main guitar which is a bolt on is extremely resonant in Ab (I keep it in Eb), and the 5th fret on the high e/10th fret on the b just SINGS and slowly turns into harmonic feedback. My neck thru 7 string is nowhere near as resonant and doesn't really do the singing feedback thing. Both guitars have a ton of sustain.
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Feb 10, 2021 01:57
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What are the scale lengths of those guitars?
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:What are the scale lengths of those guitars? Teles are 25.5 inch and Les Pauls are 24.something I THINK. edit: 25.5 for a standard tele, 24.75 for a les paul.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:What are the scale lengths of those guitars? 7 string is a schecter km7ii (26.5") Main axe is an Ibanez az242 (25.5")
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Feb 10, 2021 02:29
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i wanna see the LP with tele parts op, do it!
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Gramps posted:7 string is a schecter km7ii (26.5") I suspect this has more to do with it*. *resonanceses Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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Feb 10, 2021 04:19
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Apparently cherry is basically identical to hard maple in most aspects, but is more expensive, similarly heavy, and without many showy grain patterns so no one uses it.
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Feb 10, 2021 04:34
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Seagull use cherry on some of their acoustics.
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Feb 10, 2021 04:40
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I am going to loosen all the screw on my telecaster so I get less sustain
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:I suspect this has more to do with it*. I would probably agree, but my 27.5" Baritone is also very resonant akin to my shorter scale stuff. I know poohpoohing the tonewoods has become the more dominant narrative, but how alive a guitar is really does depend on the wood. The actual tone much less so- it's a very subtle eq tweak at most. I worked as a shop tech/guitar salesman for the last 20 years off and on. Even two identical guitars, set up by me to the same spec would resonate differently just because the wood density varies a bit piece to piece. They would sound pretty identical, but would feel different and have different vibes pretty consistently. I find unplugged volume is a very quick way to spot this. Wowporn posted:I am going to loosen all the screw on my telecaster so I get less sustain That'd do it in a hurry, especially bridge plate and saddle screws on a top mount tele bridge
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Thumposaurus posted:The first ones look like mirrored acrylic not metal. It's definitely this, look at the reflections of the screw holes, you can see the material itself is clear with a mirrored finish underneath. The neck pickup isn't a real issue, that thing is just mounted to a pickguard anyway. There's some magic in a tele bridge, and I think the pickup and the bridge plate coming together are a big part of that. Hypothetically if you don't mind really butchering the guitar you could build an angled block where the LP's bridge is to raise and set it at the right angle (Fenders usually have the neck in alignment with the body, if you laid the body down on a table the neck would run parallel to the table. Gibson's angle the neck back a bit and the bridge is raised) and just slap a whole topmount tele bridge on there. Personally I think you'd end up with a 'worst of both worlds' situation where you'd have a guitar that has all the annoying issues of a LP like weight and ergonomics, but with single-coils that now sound kind of lifeless in a shorter scale length.
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Gramps posted:I would probably agree, but my 27.5" Baritone is also very resonant akin to my shorter scale stuff. I know poohpoohing the tonewoods has become the more dominant narrative, but how alive a guitar is really does depend on the wood. The actual tone much less so- it's a very subtle eq tweak at most. I worked as a shop tech/guitar salesman for the last 20 years off and on. Even two identical guitars, set up by me to the same spec would resonate differently just because the wood density varies a bit piece to piece. They would sound pretty identical, but would feel different and have different vibes pretty consistently. I find unplugged volume is a very quick way to spot this. That your baritone is different and also a different scale length does not confirm your belief. That it might be “similarly” “resonant” is also not terribly helpful. Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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