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TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009

by Shine
updated weapons:
http://infinitythegame.com/archivo/%5BENG%5D_Weapons_Chart_HS+CP.pdf

updated FAQ for CP and HS N3:
http://infinitythegame.com/archivo/%5BENG%5D_FAQ_HS+CP.pdf


Just reposting with the links fixed because I'm ocd, and I hate having to copy paste the end part onto the url instead of clicking.

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Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
EVO Repeater looks hot. Disappointed but totally unsurprised that they didn't rework link teams.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


The fact that you can't use Speculative Fire in link teams anymore makes me sad. My poor Riot Grrls. :smith:

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Do I understand correctly that linked hackers won't be able to use full-order Supportware etc. without dropping out?

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.

Flipswitch posted:

The fact that you can't use Speculative Fire in link teams anymore makes me sad. My poor Riot Grrls. :smith:

RIP E/M grenades on bolts.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Pierzak posted:

Do I understand correctly that linked hackers won't be able to use full-order Supportware etc. without dropping out?
Yup, correct.

DJ Dizzy posted:

RIP E/M grenades on bolts.
:smith:

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

DJ Dizzy posted:

RIP E/M grenades on bolts.
Not really, I like the combo Flip posted - run a lone hacker up to a wall, spotlight a target on the other side, spec-throw the nade over.

Flipswitch posted:

Yup, correct.
Booo. My CG are most definitely not happy.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


You can still throw E/M grenades (and Drop Bears) up to their maximum range just fine, just not with Speculative Fire while linked is all. They're still perfectly usable and can be fired at an enemy miniature providing he is the target of Circular Template as a legal target. They're still incredible I think for throwing them at clustered models or high priority targets just to trigger the Guts Roll and Isolation State.

E: Pz, the last time I did that combo I missed the PH17 throw.

2e: The bugger didn't find it funny when I threw two drop bears either side of his link team from outside of their LOS though. :argh:

RE: Hacking, yeah I think it's a bit lame but I think it might be one of those changes that works out better in the long-term for Speculative Fire/Suppression Fire/Intuitive Attack.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jan 21, 2015

Hoboskins
Aug 31, 2006

there is a rumour going around that I have found God. I think this is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist
So from what I can tell Viral and T2 function exactly the same? All things considered I am lovin my T2 Sniper Cateran even more than before. With the new range bands Snipers are now a great tool for getting rid of high burst suppressing fire weapons.

Was looking through Yu-Jing profiles and I noticed the new Imperial Agent Crane rank seems a lot better. most of the profiles come equipped standard with Sensor and x visor which I didn't realise affects penalties to suppressing fire. Not to mention Kinematika lv 2 and an extra point of arm. Not quite sure if he is still too costly at 53 points. 2x nanopulser, multi rifle, Xvisor and a Sensor seems pretty good on that profile. If I am interpreting the rules correctly it would mean that the range bands on suppressive fire with an X Visor would be 0/0/0 instead of 0/0/-3.

What I am trying to say is I want an excuse to start Yu-Jing because I love all their models. I want an immediate action robit

Hoboskins fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jan 21, 2015

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Viral is a Biomunition so will proc Bioimmunity, T2 has the Standard Trait so will not. :) One requires BTS rolls, the other ARM.

E:

quote:

T2 Special Ammunition causes 2 Wounds to the target for each ARM roll failed. A Critical with this ammunition causes 2 Wounds directly.

quote:

Viral Special Ammunition requires its target to perform two BTS rolls. Even if the target fails the first of them, or is Unconscious, he must still make the second Roll.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jan 21, 2015

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

Flipswitch posted:

2e: The bugger didn't find it funny when I threw two drop bears either side of his link team from outside of their LOS though. :argh:


:monocle:

Yep. That's the stuff right there.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Hoboskins posted:

I want an immediate action robit
Are you a masochist? Do you like gluing a thousand tiny bits to one model? Are you prepared to hate yourself, this game, and the world in general?

If the answer to any of the above is "no", you may want to reconsider getting the Su-Jian.

Hoboskins
Aug 31, 2006

there is a rumour going around that I have found God. I think this is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist
infinity is a game I feel zero remorse for paying to have models assembled for this very reason. In the time it took me to put some of that stuff together I could have worked enough to pay for the service and then some.

It also saves me on counselling bills and anger management classes.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Weird - I find model assembly relaxing.

But then, my other hobby is League of Legends. :bang:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Corbeau posted:

Weird - I find model assembly relaxing.

But then, my other hobby is League of Legends. :bang:
Considering the overlap of games we play I'm surprised either one of us hasn't torn our hair out tbh.

osirisisdead posted:

:monocle:

Yep. That's the stuff right there.
A lot of people haven't quite grokked how good a 16" mine is It's loving brutal.

Pierzak posted:

Are you a masochist? Do you like gluing a thousand tiny bits to one model? Are you prepared to hate yourself, this game, and the world in general?

If the answer to any of the above is "no", you may want to reconsider getting the Su-Jian.
Behold, the most dreadful price for a poor product

Hoboskins
Aug 31, 2006

there is a rumour going around that I have found God. I think this is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist
Big chunky easy to assemble plastic is relaxing for me to (despite the occasional mould line rage). However I have CP so poo poo like infinity is far too small for me to assemble easily if at all.

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dang, man. I'll forever be more tolerant of people who contract other people to build their poo poo now.

I've been building/converting (weapon swaps, green stuff conversion, but never felt the desire to do anything from scratch yet) minis for so long that working with Infinity isn't much different. I've started pinning a lot more joints and doing magnets... which makes it a lot easier overall.

The only rage inducing thing lately is that I can't seem to find fresh batches of CA glue. It took overnight for my last set of models to cure enough to not simply fall apart from gravity and I just bought the glue last weekend. I'm still going to have an Akalis with a Spitfire from the old kit that had an HMG once I get the rest of that model together. So that's okay.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Flipswitch posted:

Behold, the most dreadful price for a poor product

Oh no, the Su-Jian is awesome and well-done. It's just that, well,...



osirisisdead posted:

Dang, man. I'll forever be more tolerant of people who contract other people to build their poo poo now.
Wait. Weren't you the dude that said he wanted to see people who commission minis beaten and stuff? :v:

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jan 22, 2015

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo


Pierzak posted:

Wait. Weren't you the dude that said he wanted to see people who commission minis beaten and stuff? :v:

I was being rhetorically hyperbolic on a comedy forum and was more specifically talking about people who trust random vendors on the internet with tens of thousands of dollars of skilled labor rather than people who commission minis.

I still generally find the practice distasteful in most cases, hence my tolerance rather than acceptance. I'm not sure why.

Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jan 22, 2015

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010



want dat islamic booty

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Given the big drop in cost for rocket launchers, I expected them to be nerfed to B1.

Instead, they each got a boost by having a new Hit mode with no blast up +1 damage. So yes, a linked HRL can toss out B3, drat 15 Fire hits all over the table.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
^^^: Hey, my Gwailos are happy they'll finally get painted :v:

Oh, look. Another fully-suited and masked model with bare midriff. :rolleyes:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


At least she looks partially embarrassed by it.

Sephyr posted:

Given the big drop in cost for rocket launchers, I expected them to be nerfed to B1.

Instead, they each got a boost by having a new Hit mode with no blast up +1 damage. So yes, a linked HRL can toss out B3, drat 15 Fire hits all over the table.
Light Rocket Launcher is B2 in both forms, as is HRL.

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Realistically, how many bux does this game cost to play? This is the first time I've ever looked at it.

Also from looking at the models apparently there are no bras in the future. Nipples everywhere.

Comrade Merf
Jun 2, 2011

Flipswitch posted:


want dat islamic booty

I really like how many female sculpts Infinity has for it's fighting forces, something many companies and settings are unwilling to do. Unfortunately they piss all that good will away by decking them all out in high heels, midriffs and tit plate armor.Baby steps I guess.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


gannyGrabber posted:

Realistically, how many bux does this game cost to play? This is the first time I've ever looked at it.

Also from looking at the models apparently there are no bras in the future. Nipples everywhere.
It's so liberating. :allears:

Generally speaking a starter box is around £30 and approximately 1 £8 blister to get in at approx 150pts game which is the entry level points scale.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Flipswitch posted:

At least she looks partially embarrassed by it.

Light Rocket Launcher is B2 in both forms, as is HRL.

My bad. I was thinking of them in link teams.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Flipswitch posted:

Generally speaking a starter box is around £30 and approximately 1 £8 blister to get in at approx 150pts game which is the entry level points scale.

And later on it very much depends on what faction you're playing (elite/horde) and how much of your list is "I need 1 model out of a box of 4". I just looked at my lists and they're horrible with this. Ah well, that's what you get when your approach to list building is "can take whatever" :china:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Pierzak posted:

And later on it very much depends on what faction you're playing (elite/horde) and how much of your list is "I need 1 model out of a box of 4". I just looked at my lists and they're horrible with this. Ah well, that's what you get when your approach to list building is "can take whatever" :china:
Yeah, the NeoTerran box for example is like 170pts because some smart arse thought that putting in two 60pt+ HI was a good idea.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Also, the starter boxes are not point-balanced against each other, just "6 models for your faction to start with"!

(this needs to be put in the OP in big, red, flashing, epilepsy-inducing letters)

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Actually a new player guide might not be a bad thing to add. I'll work on that tomorrow if I get five minutes. :)

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
So much painting in the last 48 hours. I never want to touch a brush again. :negative:

Pictures later.

ThreeLefts
Dec 27, 2012

So Flammenspeer, are you Circular or Teardrop?

Chart Vs Description, in the FAQ.

FAQ

:downsrim:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


I'm actually super bummed on not being able to throw grenades speculatively anymore in link teams, it was like the only real place I used them on Riot Grrls thanks to how the interaction worked. Now I'm just going to rock up with my B5 Spitfire I guess.

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.

Flipswitch posted:

Yeah, the NeoTerran box for example is like 170pts because some smart arse thought that putting in two 60pt+ HI was a good idea.

Its 230 :v:

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

ThreeLefts posted:

So Flammenspeer, are you Circular or Teardrop?
Spanish file sez Circular in both places.

admanb
Jun 18, 2014

Flipswitch posted:

At least she looks partially embarrassed by it.

Embarrassed... or aroused?

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

Flipswitch posted:

I'm actually super bummed on not being able to throw grenades speculatively anymore in link teams, it was like the only real place I used them on Riot Grrls thanks to how the interaction worked. Now I'm just going to rock up with my B5 Spitfire I guess.

On the other hand, you get Riot Grrl link teams.

Riot Grrls are the single unit in the game of which I am most jealous. A 4-4 HI beatstick with MSV and huge survivability against gimmick attacks (due to dodging) is pretty insane.

Mr.Booger
Nov 13, 2004
Got in two games of N3 last night. My MAR force vs friends Nomads, 200pt "lets learn the rules again" games.

Lot of fun, first game I wandered around without smoking the table up too much and got gunned down, though one regular morat inf reaction shot everything my opponent poked around corners, dude was a serious badass until he ate double heavy flamer from a remote turn 3.

Second game I got one witch soldier into his deployment zone and he ended up CCing everything into piles of goo, literally killed over 50% of the nomad force by slowly tossing smoke grenades and then using them to walk closer, made a few lucky armor roles when he failed a FTF, then crit everything to death.

We are going up to 300 pts next week, and more scenarios, we did just some older ITS2014 area control ones as we were underpointed and thus specialist light.

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Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Spitballing some Hassassin list plans, since we've now got the stats and rules.

code:
Combat Group #1

AL-DJABEL			0	35
RAGIK		Hacker		0.5	32
GOVAD		ML		1.5	30
GOVAD		HMG		1.5	29
GOVAD		Hacker		0.5	28
GOVAD		Rifle		0	21
GOVAD		Rifle		0	21
BARID		Lt+Hacker	1	22
NAJJARUN 	Engineer	0	17
GHULAM		Doctor		0	16
	NASMAT			0	3

Combat Group #2

SHIHAB REMOTE	HMG		1	25
MUTTAWI'AH	Chain		0	5
MUTTAWI'AH	Chain		0	5
MUTTAWI'AH	Chain		0	5
MUTTAWI'AH	Chain		0	5

Total:				6	299
Could also try Yasbir instead of Al-Djabel for a more objective focused game.

Corbeau fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jan 22, 2015

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