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jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
How bad is the electronics side for a swap like that ?

Can the electronic power steering be gutted ?

What kind of horsepower handling does a basic refreshed 13B have ?

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McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


jonathan posted:

How bad is the electronics side for a swap like that ?

Can the electronic power steering be gutted ?

What kind of horsepower handling does a basic refreshed 13B have ?

Big wall of text incoming! Edit: OK, not that big (that's what she said).

On the electronics side, the easiest option is to build a bit of a hybrid FD/RX8 engine. You keep the RX-8 front cover and DBW throttle body(the TB bolts right up to the FD intake). You then run an adaptronic RX8 specific ECU which is technically a stand alone but runs in a bastard piggy back mode with stock ECU which controls the electric power steering/OMP/canbus etc. So everything still works and feels stock. Except you now have 1bar+ of boost and 350 rwhp.

This way you do not have to touch the power steering. Which is honestly just as good as the new Porsche systems.

HP numbers for a conservative street port 13B-REW in a RX-8 is about ~300-350 wheel depending on turbo.

You could build the whole car for under $10k CDN with the exchange rate right now. Under $8k if we ever reach parity again as far as USD/CAD or you can build/reverse engineer some of the swap specific parts. Subframe engine mount adapter, exhaust manifold, lower intake manifold.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Why do an FD 13B over a new gen one plus turbo ?

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

Big game season started well for me and my hunting partner.

We got off of work around 4:10, drove to my place, loaded up and got to my neighbour's, spotted the deer, I pushed them where we needed them to go and my buddy had this grain stealing fat gently caress on the ground by 5:40.



Turns out the lift makes a superb gutting/skinning platform as well.

Maybe tomorrow we'll do some duck hunting :v:

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


jonathan posted:

Why do an FD 13B over a new gen one plus turbo ?

The 13B-MSP engines in the RX-8 have the following specifications which make them ill suited for forced induction:
-shorter and thus weaker apex seals
-10:1 compression
-the exhaust ports are no longer part of the housing, instead on the side plates like the intake. This was done for emissions, however now creates a very very hot spot in an area never designed for it. Which among many other issues, predominantly creates side seal failure.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!
:siren: gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress :siren:

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars...urce=ios_social

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


DrakeriderCa posted:

:siren: gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress :siren:

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars...urce=ios_social

Better start growing that mullet.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

It's sad that car is $700 and it's actually not a bad deal.

Those old F-bodies have gone batshit crazy. You couldn't give those loving things away when I was a teenager.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
That interior...

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

slidebite posted:

It's sad that car is $700 and it's actually not a bad deal.

Those old F-bodies have gone batshit crazy. You couldn't give those loving things away when I was a teenager.

It's so gross

Even 3rd gen's which are objectively terrible cars and probably the worst looking generation are like $1500 for a rusty rolling chassis

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



I just wanted to say that this thread is great and I sincerely hope you all talk like a Letterkenny sketch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwtOukiaGTk

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

beep-beep car is go posted:

I just wanted to say that this thread is great and I sincerely hope you all talk like a Letterkenny sketch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwtOukiaGTk

That's Ontario.

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?




drat.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Easy mistake to make.

In Alberta, we all talk like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-y-qAbpL0

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



Seat Safety Switch posted:

Easy mistake to make.

In Alberta, we all talk like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-y-qAbpL0

Hah, you're trying to put one over on me! That Newfie is too understandable.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Where is that video of the two dudes on a platform yelling at the bear and eventually bear spraying it ? thats the Canada video.


Also this aVe guy on youtube from northern BC is a blast to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b9ZYt6MzHc

He tears down tools, I think he's an electrical engineer but he has a lot of knowledge of plastics. He works at a mine.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

jonathan posted:

Where is that video of the two dudes on a platform yelling at the bear and eventually bear spraying it ? thats the Canada video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLsM2ijRao

Yeah this one is pretty accurate. This one is prairies as gently caress.

GOD drat IT I GOTTA loving DRILL SOME FOOTAGE

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I love it! I think he mumbled "footings"

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
:byobear: gently caress YOU BEHR!

I'm also particularly fond of "That don't work! He's jus' lickin' it!"

AvE is very good. When I overdose on Facebook stupidity (I dunno about yours, but mine is about 40% pure idiocy), I like to watch AvE tear something apart and tell me about the pixies.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



AvE is definitely not a sparky, my guess is mechanical engineer.

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

You guys ready to accept American refugees?

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

No, gently caress them. They poo poo in their own bed and they can damned well sleep in it.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Supposedly the government immigration website is so slammed its down :lol:

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



slidebite posted:

Supposedly the government immigration website is so slammed its down :lol:

Confirmed. Buddy of mine sent me a screenshot off of his phone.

This is going to be a doozy

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


We need to build a wall to keep the americans out.

What a loving shitshow. I can't imagine how much damage he is going to do to the world in the next 4 years with the house, senate, and supreme court backing him up.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Holy gently caress they're actually going to pull this lever.

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

I cannot loving believe this poo poo and now I can't sleep because I'm trying to work out the implications of this.

NAFTA is hosed
NATO is hosed
Putin's going to run butt loving wild all over Asia
Trump casinos will cover the world like cheeto dust covers a carpet in a d&d basement as foreign interests try to curry favour
The supreme Court is going to get stacked against any kind of social progress
I'm presumably going to become an alcoholic

Bloom county was right, they were always right. Berkeley Breathed is a prophet and I knew there was a reason I loved that comic as a kid even though the implications of it were terrifying.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
I think we are totally hosed but I am also really curious to see the first few totally awkward meetings between Trump and foreign leaders.

The man is a living car crash.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


Seat Safety Switch posted:

I think we are totally hosed but I am also really curious to see the first few totally awkward meetings between Trump and foreign leaders.

The man is a living car crash.

I'm just glad I'm out of the blast radius when Supreme Overlord Trump nukes Toronto.

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



Okay, so there are officially too many of us to move up to Canada. Do you guys want the Northeast?

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Slung Blade posted:

I cannot loving believe this poo poo and now I can't sleep because I'm trying to work out the implications of this.

NAFTA is hosed
NATO is hosed
Putin's going to run butt loving wild all over Asia
Trump casinos will cover the world like cheeto dust covers a carpet in a d&d basement as foreign interests try to curry favour
The supreme Court is going to get stacked against any kind of social progress
I'm presumably going to become an alcoholic

Bloom county was right, they were always right. Berkeley Breathed is a prophet and I knew there was a reason I loved that comic as a kid even though the implications of it were terrifying.

Any sort of social issue is hosed but his crazy out there poo poo is never going to fly in a lobbyist controlled congress. I think its probably going to end up being a largely by the numbers republican president.

I do think NAFTA is deeply flawed (that was like the one thing I agreed with trump on) but congress is never going to repeal it, and I think the proper idea of following the EEC model is never going to fly on this continent.

F1DriverQuidenBerg fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Nov 9, 2016

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

beep-beep car is go posted:

Okay, so there are officially too many of us to move up to Canada. Do you guys want the Northeast?

You stay down there and fix your mess mister :mad:

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



8ender posted:

You stay down there and fix your mess mister :mad:

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

beep-beep car is go posted:

Okay, so there are officially too many of us to move up to Canada. Do you guys want the Northeast?


Didn't happen 16 years ago, probably ain't gonna happen now.

EDIT:
Also, This

quote:

One source claims that at its peak, Canada interned 35,046
We could probably take 50-100K refugees before the cannibalism becomes a serious problem

ExecuDork fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Nov 9, 2016

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


ExecuDork posted:

We could probably take 50-100K refugees before the cannibalism becomes a serious problem

We're going into winter. We can easily take more than that - they'll stay fresh and edible until March.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Why don't we give americans all those abandoned villages in newfoundland so we never have to see or hear from them and they can hunt fish with their guns.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Let's be generous - transplant entire neighbourhoods from American cities to the Prairies. We've got a bunch of ghost towns. Ideally, we could rebuild the towns of the Alphabet Railway Line - the restriction (punishable by immediate deportation to Alabama) is you have to pronounce it ZED.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


I'm not comfortable with forcing people to live in rural manitoba. That's just cruel.

Did any of those Harper superprisons ever get built?

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
As long as he weakens the american dollar and drives up oil pricing, I'm happy. I need a third house and a bigger travel trailer.

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Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Powershift posted:

I'm not comfortable with forcing people to live in rural manitoba. That's just cruel.

Did any of those Harper superprisons ever get built?

I'm not entirely convinced Manitoba isn't a superprison.

jonathan posted:

As long as he weakens the american dollar and drives up oil pricing, I'm happy. I need a third house and a bigger travel trailer.
So far, no go on the CAD. I think the restricted-trade poo poo is hurting us just as much as it's hurting them, early Mulroney-style.

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