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You can be Royal and stop the universe from going to poo poo. It's just very unlikely that you care about the universe while also being such a furious dumbass as to change it.
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maybe the doctrine of detachment from the fruit of your actions is somewhere between "loving stupid" and "propaganda designed to lull the oppressed into inaction" and Royalty has exactly the same ethical valence as, well, royalty
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Mar 14, 2023 23:37
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Those on the path of Royalty have only mastered the world. The point, however,
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Mar 14, 2023 23:42
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Royalty means being like Yisun, or actually being Yisun, which are the same thing.
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the endlessly repeating wheel we're all being broken under is this discussion
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:maybe the doctrine of detachment from the fruit of your actions is somewhere between "loving stupid" and "propaganda designed to lull the oppressed into inaction" and Royalty has exactly the same ethical valence as, well, royalty In a certain angle definitely. But the other side of it is about getting poo poo done somehow because thats how miracles happen, in the revolutionary sense of things. Like Gramsci said: pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will
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dead gay comedy forums posted:What I am not following is why any of them have any special responsibilities because of their circumstances (to stop the war or whatever). The OG superking hosed off without giving any regard, after all. does the general tone of the comic strike you as pro-nihilism, or helplessness the circumstances of the major characters and royalty aspirants of the comic is that they can do literally anything they put their minds to, where they fail is in putting their minds to anything worthwhile. If you're not going to care about an omnicidal war destroying everything, what are you going to care about? A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Mar 15, 2023 |
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On the protagonist side, the most Royal thing any of the good guys has done was White Chain punching herself into a new, previously impossible state of existence. This was something she did completely on accident, while attempting an action that she knew was inherently futile but willing to commit to with every fiber of her being. So saying "welp, I can't stop multiversal war" is one of the steps in the process but the next step is to throw yourself wholly into stopping multiversal war anyhow.
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the holy poopacy posted:
Disco Elysium posted:You: Wait, first — what's this *communism* even about?
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Mar 15, 2023 07:07
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quote:Volition: You can do it. It's nothing. Do it for the city. Go.
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If you're explaining Royalty, you're not being Royal.
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Mar 15, 2023 13:18
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Thundarr posted:If you're explaining Royalty, you're not being Royal. Right, I should be naked and drinking.
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Mar 15, 2023 14:36
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Benagain posted:Right, I should be naked and drinking. Exactly, since basically everything in the comic so far has seemed to imply that this is the most royal state of all.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:does the general tone of the comic strike you as pro-nihilism, or helplessness the holy poopacy posted:So saying "welp, I can't stop multiversal war" is one of the steps in the process but the next step is to throw yourself wholly into stopping multiversal war anyhow. I do agree with you especially because Pattonesque posted:disco elysium I didn't express myself well. When I said that "they can't do much", I should have been clearer in terms of controlling outcomes of their actions. Besides that, I meant that, since they are Royal, they are not acting in an ethical/moral obligation or imperative, if that makes sense. They are just pure action. The subject understanding that it is the cause of itself, etc Like, a wiser one among them might think: universal war is hell, I have a strong position, ambitious fuckers are coming for my rear end so I am going to play defense because that way I also can serve my people and improve their lives while scrubs conveniently bring their keys to me (regardless of how effective that is). Another one thinks that going in the offensive makes sense for them because power-hungry egomaniacs are going to annoy literally everyone in the universe so might as well just be proactive and hey, might be fun. Both were powerful, both get owned (probably by Jaggadork) and both were Royal because they renounced control of the results and acted out of pure subjective volition. (it's a fun gimmick thing to talk about because it made me connect a lot of dots from reading about eastern mysticism, philosophy and related stuff btw. ty all)
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Mysticism? Royalty is real and it is my friend.
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Royalty is a scam made up by crown companies to sell more crowns.
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Royalty is a nerd trap to keep anyone who thinks too hard from ending up in a position of power.
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GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:Exactly, since basically everything in the comic so far has seemed to imply that this is the most royal state of all. Not for nothing do we have the phrase, "drunk as a Lord"
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There Bias Two posted:Royalty is a nerd trap to keep anyone who thinks too hard from ending up in a position of power. Idk the current management was p overthinky and not really that great tbh
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the holy poopacy posted:On the protagonist side, the most Royal thing any of the good guys has done was White Chain punching herself into a new, previously impossible state of existence. Followed closely by White Chain hesitating when wondering if she can fuse with the already-fused Allison/Cio, and Allison/Cio just respond "Screw it, let's do it!". And they just loving do.
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Discio Allisium
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RocketMermaid posted:Followed closely by White Chain hesitating when wondering if she can fuse with the already-fused Allison/Cio, and Allison/Cio just respond "Screw it, let's do it!". And they just loving do. "Don't think, DO" is a recurring theme
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Thundarr posted:If you're explaining Royalty, you're not being Royal. If you're explaining Royalty with no concern as to whether or not your audience is interested in your explanation or if you're doing a good or bad job in the explanation, then that's Royalty.
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Phy posted:Not for nothing do we have the phrase, "drunk as a Lord" Ray Smuckles is the only true Royalty in the universe, change my mind.
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The only true royal in Achewood is Mr. Bear, that's been pretty conclusively decided in-comic
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It seems like the thing about Royalty is that getting there forbids both unproductive and productive forms of thought.
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Rand Brittain posted:It seems like the thing about Royalty is that getting there forbids thought.
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If Salami Dave had done everything up to the point where he killed its despoiler and restored Rayuba to a living world, and then promptly hosed off and only showed up if someone tried to mess with Rayuba and let its people govern themselves, he might have attained something resembling Royalty.
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Or at least a healthy work/life balance.
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Youremother posted:The only true royal in Achewood is Mr. Bear, that's been pretty conclusively decided in-comic Cornelius is the clear and obvious choice for Most Royal Achewood Character. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Mar 16, 2023 |
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It is not royal to be afraid of the police.
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Yeah, it's why Maya stays drunk, duh
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I didn't notice this before, but apparently Solomon might have missed at least one Ki Rata monk: https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/seeker-of-thrones-5-43-to-5-44-ashton/ Go to this guy for advice and it's always fuckin "be patient" like some busted rear end magic 8 ball , "seek inner peace", like ah sure lad this cost me 2 shards of black glass thanks for that
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Shoehead posted:Go to this guy for advice and it's always fuckin "be patient" like some busted rear end magic 8 ball , "seek inner peace", like ah sure lad this cost me 2 shards of black glass thanks for that This gold devil killed my parents and have enslaved my sisters. My son, have you considered doing extra nothing in response?
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Trying to decide whether he does or does not liquefy the chest cavities of anyone dumb enough to throw a punch at him for his incredibly expensive yet obviously worthless advice. On the one hand, practice what you preach, yeah? On the other, surely anyone dumb enough to try and attack a guy known for his mastery of an obscenely deadly martial art gets what's coming to them.
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Previous practitioners have apparently shown no issue with the idea of brutalizing masters who challenge and attack them so why should this dude be any different.
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Yeah that’s basically what being a Ki Rata master meant until Solomon showed up: you do nothing and if anyone tries to fight, spar, or imitate you, you do ultraviolence to their weak and mortal frame.
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They seemed to believe themselves masters of violence who didn't realize inevitably someone who was a greater master would arrive and crush their morals figuratively and literally. Truly a group of fools.
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They firmly believed that the only thing that can beat a ki rata master is another ki rata master, and until Jagganoth came along they were right. So they figured that all they needed to do is indoctrinate or kill all other ki rata masters. However, they failed with regard to Solomon David.
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I would argue they failed when they allowed an entire world to die because hey, it wasn’t the kind of violence they’d sworn to prevent.
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