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Peterson can't go towards traditional reaction, because he's too heavily invested into libertarian ideas of individual sacrosanctity. A king would just be another check on your power to clean your room.
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https://twitter.com/c__spam/status/991099175277289472 Also why these campus "free speech" debates get so tiresome. If the universities have already been bought and sold, then they have ceased to be the kind of "public spaces" that conservatives often claim they are. They're not.
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you know i've never really been clear as to whether there are any alt-righters who seem to recognize the kochs as the inheritors of confederate america's legacy. i wouldn't be adverse to putting money on the lot being useful idiots across the board but surely a few know what's up with those old ghouls
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the logical end for guys like peterson is to become some variant of anarcho-capitalist and that's probably what will happen to him if he doesn't do something to flame out early he actually reminds me of an L Ron Hubbard figure, though they were very different men, the context in which they find themselves becoming successful self-help gurus is very similar
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SpaceGoku posted:the logical end for guys like peterson is to become some variant of anarcho-capitalist and that's probably what will happen to him if he doesn't do something to flame out early Can totally see Peterson doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw54-yDc6Jg
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May 1, 2018 02:01
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Libs are the biggest hurdle, ya dingus.
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Libs are being starved of funds and laughed at. I'm pretty sure the worthless moron consultants they paid millions for are already infesting right wing shops now based on the dumbass messaging they keep putting out and electoral results we've seen
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This video is a good answer to the question if people who identify as alt-right can ever be brought back, I think. https://youtu.be/VM6HZqQKhok
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Had a guy who I knew who went full-fash and then repented later on. He sent me a letter about it, but I didn't read it because once you go fash you're dead to me.
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rudatron posted:Totally disagree, the libs are losing ground and the center cannot hold. Its reaction that's the primary enemy. If u can prevent them winning, the game ends as a victory for the left, because the libs will fall apart by themselves No they won't, dude. We're already seeing a reactionary wave for Democrats that will sweep them back into office. The whole point of the two-party system and the first-past-the-post electoral cycle is that it narrows down the realm of political possibility to liberalism and its conservative reaction. Libs will lose ground and then take it back, because everything is structured in binary terms. It doesn't matter how far to the right liberals have been pulled, because they'll never be pulled so far outside of the liberal framework that they'll stop being libs.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:No they won't, dude. We're already seeing a reactionary wave for Democrats that will sweep them back into office. The whole point of the two-party system and the first-past-the-post electoral cycle is that it narrows down the realm of political possibility to liberalism and its conservative reaction. Libs will lose ground and then take it back, because everything is structured in binary terms. It doesn't matter how far to the right liberals have been pulled, because they'll never be pulled so far outside of the liberal framework that they'll stop being libs. Our best hope is that the Dems keep their streak alive of losing everything they set out to win and enough baddies get hamstrung in the primaries Can't wait to win the Senate but then lose it as Donnelly and Manchin switch parties because they don't like how left leaning the new makeup is
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Epic High Five posted:Our best hope is that the Dems keep their streak alive of losing everything they set out to win and enough baddies get hamstrung in the primaries Well, they'll never really have to switch parties because there's no real separation between them in terms of caucusing. Party affiliation carries a brand value, and switching parties to run in the same district is a lot easier said than done. Why would Republican voters vote for a turncoat conservative-lite when they can have conservative-classic? The near future though is certainly that a lot of bad dems will start losing to left-leaning candidates, which will make the party as a whole more dysfunctional because the contradictions between those factions can't be resolved.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Had a guy who I knew who went full-fash and then repented later on. He sent me a letter about it, but I didn't read it because once you go fash you're dead to me. Ok.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Well, they'll never really have to switch parties because there's no real separation between them in terms of caucusing. Party affiliation carries a brand value, and switching parties to run in the same district is a lot easier said than done. Why would Republican voters vote for a turncoat conservative-lite when they can have conservative-classic? we just need to purge swiftly
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:No they won't, dude. We're already seeing a reactionary wave for Democrats that will sweep them back into office. The whole point of the two-party system and the first-past-the-post electoral cycle is that it narrows down the realm of political possibility to liberalism and its conservative reaction. Libs will lose ground and then take it back, because everything is structured in binary terms. It doesn't matter how far to the right liberals have been pulled, because they'll never be pulled so far outside of the liberal framework that they'll stop being libs. Its reaction, not right-liberalism, that is gaining base ideological support among the right, and that trend shows no sign of slowing.
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lol imagine thinking the left is going 2 win in america via the united states democratic process
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rudatron posted:The nazis never won a majority, but they won because the sd's caved and signed the enabling act, because they didn't have a response to fascist paramilitaries. Theres absolutely zero reason to believe that American politics is eternally fated to ve a cons/lib duality, or that politics in the US will continue to be driven by electoralism, or that us politics is forever fated to be a pendulum swing away from the opposition winning. Once any one of those assumptions is subverted, ur thesis falls apart. Except we can see it slowing down right now. Because conservatives have become more vulgar doesn't mean they're substantially more reactionary now than they were 20 years ago.
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Its changing shape, not slowing, and its moving in precisely the direction of being less vulgar. How else do you explain Peterson? But there's a real ideological differentiation going on here, between classic neoconservatism and the up and coming reaction. The 'nevertrumper' republicans are an absolute sideshow and don't represent the base, and its that ideological evolution that's the cause.
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Peterson is the same old conservatism with academic intellectual repackaging. None of what's happening in the conservative mainstream represents a genuine ideological shift.
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a lot of the fringe right that happily spent all day for years flooding the internet with Trump poo poo has already been tossed in the dumpster and replaced by warhawk neocons. The militia takeover scenario probably doesn't apply to a group of people who are sheltered and never go outside
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Epic High Five posted:a lot of the fringe right that happily spent all day for years flooding the internet with Trump poo poo has already been tossed in the dumpster and replaced by warhawk neocons. The militia takeover scenario probably doesn't apply to a group of people who are sheltered and never go outside Yeah they got owned hard
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Well, they'll never really have to switch parties because there's no real separation between them in terms of caucusing. Party affiliation carries a brand value, and switching parties to run in the same district is a lot easier said than done. Why would Republican voters vote for a turncoat conservative-lite when they can have conservative-classic? My prediction is that 2020 will be when the contradictions become to much, the party rigs the primary and the party breaks up, Al! posted:lol imagine thinking the left is going 2 win in america via the united states democratic process It's possible. But it requires the Democratic party kill itself.
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Epic High Five posted:a lot of the fringe right that happily spent all day for years flooding the internet with Trump poo poo has already been tossed in the dumpster and replaced by warhawk neocons. The militia takeover scenario probably doesn't apply to a group of people who are sheltered and never go outside But... they're good memes...
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Business Gorillas posted:i'm catching up, googled "roastie" so see what all the hubbub was about, and i've spent the past 30 minutes looking at piss poor attempts of roasted redskin potatoes its when people who loudly declare they have never seen vagina attempt to explain how they work.
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ATP_Power posted:But... they're good memes... 350 pound militia dude dressed up like hes spec ops: this is not comic con
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Wanna join Crimethinc's Robotics Division
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Peterson is the same old conservatism with academic intellectual repackaging. None of what's happening in the conservative mainstream represents a genuine ideological shift. i don't know how you can look at libs today and not recognize their aboslute decline in terms of influence. everyone else is laughing at them. its reaction that is most dangerous.
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parties die when they take SO MUCH power that the contradictions within them make governing impossible. as long as trump is in power the Dems will have powerful anti trump unity. they’re not gonna fall apart from losing, even losing as much as they have over the past decade. a political realignment looks like: boomers start to die off -> entire GOP becomes Charlottesville marchers and Pepe WNs since those are the only young people interested in right of center politics -> mass defections from squishy right-leaning suburbanites -> Democrats win hugely with a mixture of left-wing candidates pushing anticapitalist policies and right win pro business DCCC Dems -> total dysfunction between those wings leading to paralysis -> precipitating event is a failed or successful takeover of the party apparatus during an election year -> new parties are exurban and suburban-based #woke finance capitalist wonks and rural/urban socialists, remaining CHUDs filter into one of these parties based on who’s willing to pay lip service to their racism -> gradually that party gets more racist one of those parties might just take over the weak, atrophied GOP in name only
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:its when people who loudly declare they have never seen vagina attempt to explain how they work. i'm sticking to what i can only describe as an attempt at roasted redskin potatoes by someone who doesn't know redskins exist
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semi alt rightish gamergate type news - Total Biscuit is gonna die lmao
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:its when people who loudly declare they have never seen vagina attempt to explain how they work. 
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