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Panty Saluter posted:Well I'd rather not for a lot of reasons. http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/product/details/5975?maincategoryid=104&categoryid=10401&subcategoryid=1040115&cpncd=
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KozmoNaut posted:This is some of the most aggravating bullshit I have ever read. At least it looks like the campaign will never reach its funding goal. Wait, wifi can't stream more than 1.4 Mbps? Someone needs to let go of their 802.11b gear.
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Mar 6, 2016 03:07
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Looks good, pledged $1399. Thanks for the heads up.
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Mar 6, 2016 05:03
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Panty Saluter posted:Wait, wifi can't stream more than 1.4 Mbps? Someone needs to let go of their 802.11b gear. But the 'b' stands for BEST!
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Mar 6, 2016 05:04
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Well you see higher bandwidth wireless protocols have more jitter so
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Mar 6, 2016 06:34
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Yeah, but sending uncompressed audio over wifi means that data bytes are being added to each IP packet (parity bits, sender & receiver data). This is even worse than compressing data. You're adding useless bytes. THIS AFFECTS MY TONEZ! 
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Mar 6, 2016 11:35
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Panty Saluter posted:Wait, wifi can't stream more than 1.4 Mbps? Someone needs to let go of their 802.11b gear.
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Mar 6, 2016 13:09
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I don't understand DSP, therefore, I am a trusted source for your digital audio gear.
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Mar 6, 2016 15:01
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Such a wierd product. Firstly, not trying to say that cheese and bacon solves this problem, but digitally distributing audio and keeping it playing in sync with each other is not a trivial problem. If it can do this, it may be worth it for some people. It seems it's main purpose is to maintain the fidelity of analogue vinyl over a digital wireless link. If you're that concerned, why would you even let it do an AD/DA conversion when digital is so evil? You could run balanced, silver stranded cables to all your rooms for a tenth of the price. Also, it doesn't even have a built in phono preamp. 16bit 44.1kHz audio is described as compressed. The thing is made of loving unfinished plywood and it looks like they can't even cut it straight:  It doesn't say what radio frequency it uses, except that it runs on "ISM RF" channels to "easily avoid frequencies most commonly used by other wireless products". Every bloody wireless product, including your microwave, uses these frequencies. 
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Mar 6, 2016 15:11
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So it's basically an ugly 'high res' version of this: http://www.neutrik.co.uk/en-uk/xirium/ Having used these against any 'normal' high end RF based product and knowing how much effort and testing went into making it viable to do 24/48 at any sensible distance without interference makes me even more doubtful that cheese and bacon has a chance.
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Mar 6, 2016 15:29
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Panty Saluter posted:Viola, no rumble or motor noise. I'd rather not have a viola in my stereo system. It's bad enough that they use those horrible things in orchestras.
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Mar 10, 2016 02:14
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The Crown amp came in. Upsides: even at high sensitivity with the gain cranked I can't even challenge this thing. Hell, it doesn't even tickle the -20 lights. Seat of the pants tells me bass performance is way better, especially at high volumes. I wonder now if the H/K amp section wasn't just running out of breath and getting higher TIM distortion or something. It's definitely easier on the ears at high volumes. Downside: it has plainly audible background hiss in quiet passages. From what I've read this is normal behavior. I'm trying to decide how much that bothers me.
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Mar 10, 2016 02:41
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KozmoNaut posted:And the worst part? It's called "BACON and CHEESE". Precisely defined periodic functions are hard to reconstruct yo.
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Mar 10, 2016 05:17
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Woolie Wool posted:I'd rather not have a viola in my stereo system. It's bad enough that they use those horrible things in orchestras. Yes, but if you modulate the Oh wait, sorry, I thought I was in the Star Trek thread for a moment.
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Mar 10, 2016 05:22
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Panty Saluter posted:The Crown amp came in. Upsides: even at high sensitivity with the gain cranked I can't even challenge this thing. Hell, it doesn't even tickle the -20 lights. Seat of the pants tells me bass performance is way better, especially at high volumes. I wonder now if the H/K amp section wasn't just running out of breath and getting higher TIM distortion or something. It's definitely easier on the ears at high volumes. Lower the gain until you stop hearing the hiss. You just said you weren't even coming close to maxing it out.
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Mar 10, 2016 05:29
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The hiss is present even with the gain all the way down and the input source off. I guess it's some artifact of a class D amp at low output? This thing IS designed to be running at high output so I'm sure low level performance was not a high priority.
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Mar 10, 2016 18:03
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I use a Class D to run the top/mids on my PA system and it hisses no matter what. My old iron style amp I use for the subs (that I've used with the tops previously) though doesn't. It must be something to do with the design, yeah.
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Mar 10, 2016 20:14
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Ah class D, we meet again. The class D is the bete noire of the audiophool.
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Mar 10, 2016 21:11
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I don't know if they all do that, but an audible noise floor is kind of a bad thing as far as I'm concerned. Call me all the names you want, I really don't care.
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I don't think it's a class D thing,it's more of a function of crazy amounts of power. My old EPX2800 is class H, but does 1400w per channel into 2ohms and it does the same. The thing is, at full volume, that hiss is practically undetectable  But I bought it to use on a subwoofer. Couldn't hear the hiss at all then. A Lone Girl Flier fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Waldo P Barnstormer posted:I don't think it's a class D thing,it's more of a function of crazy amounts of power. My old EPX2800 is class H, but does 1400w per channel into 2ohms and it does the same. The thing is, at full volume, that hiss is practically undetectable Yeah, I imagine that big gain factors in. I've heard more than a few giganto Class A and A/B amps that bump out similar power numbers that are dead silent, but they are also several orders more expensive. I'm sure big gain transistors that make a little more noise are somewhat cheaper. It's really weird, the hiss level is the same regardless of the gain settings. So regardless of what I do, any quiet passages have that small amount of noise. But Lord Almighty is it better when I goose the volume. I'm thinking the receiver was definitely breaking up on its own, that's the only explanation for how shrill it was getting. I don't know if the internal amp's sensitivity was set super-high to make the receiver seem more powerful (wouldn't be the first example of that) but making fine adjustments at low levels was very fiddly. I'm guessing it wasn't hard to push up the distortion as well. So right now I'm leaning toward keeping the amp and maybe using it as a sub amp (the internal crossover seems handy). Or maybe keepingit as a main amp. IDK
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Mar 11, 2016 03:18
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That sounds like a ground loop or isolation issue.
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Mar 11, 2016 04:07
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There was a ground loop but I fixed that with an isolator on the cable line. I wondered too if it was something to do with using single-ended interconnects, but poking around in Google it seems like a lot of people get some hiss with this model and it seems to be normal It's not even unpleasant, it's sort of pink-noisey. Like good master tape hiss in a way.
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Mar 11, 2016 05:02
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This article is really good http://www.rane.com/note151.html And it also contains this great picture: 
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Panty Saluter posted:There was a ground loop but I fixed that with an isolator on the cable line. I wondered too if it was something to do with using single-ended interconnects, but poking around in Google it seems like a lot of people get some hiss with this model and it seems to be normal It's normal. ...but it was never an issue for me considering the system was used in a club where it was never quiet.
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Waldo P Barnstormer posted:This article is really good http://www.rane.com/note151.html  
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Takes the word "streaming" up to a whole new level.
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Mar 12, 2016 12:35
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Finally, a truly directional HDMI cable.
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Mar 12, 2016 22:16
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I love the custom packaging for that. The more you look at it the more funny details you find.
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Khablam posted:Finally, a truly directional HDMI cable. I guess I'm not seeing what everyone is laughing about? That looks like a cable you'd use on boat or other marine environment. One side is for connecting to wiring in the bulkhead and the other end for a TV (I imagine). Having water-tight, click lock connector is not uncommon, BNC was developed to solve this problem almost 40 years ago. This looks like it's simply an evolution of that. Having a converter that allows you to hook into AV on end, route through the bulkhead, and then converter to TV is not what I'd call "audiophile". I mean, if you just wired things with no consideration for fresh or salt water, then you're being pretty stupid.
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Mar 14, 2016 16:35
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One end isn't electrical at all, it's just a garden hose connector.
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Mar 14, 2016 16:36
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TomR posted:One end isn't electrical at all, it's just a garden hose connector. I was thinking it was something along these lines, since these kind of connectors exist for all types of cables.  HOWEVER, I missed the German "Verbindung zu H2O" which means "connects to water", so now I'm confused. Unless that means it's made to be used in a wet environment. A proper German could probably answer that one.
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It's a fake, made as a joke, jesus christ.
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Mar 14, 2016 17:07
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Nope, it's a garden hose.
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Mar 14, 2016 17:08
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Flipperwaldt posted:It's a fake, made as a joke, jesus christ. Got it. I'll adjust my settings accordingly.
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Mar 14, 2016 17:10
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No, the orange plug is literally a garden hose connector that you would plug your lawn sprinkler into. It's good for nothing except possibly short circuiting your TV. The humor largely comes from the fact that the joker went to the effort of making a very professional looking packaging for it. Hama is a pretty well regarded german manufacturer of AV cables and accessories. Top left under "Full HD / liter" it says "Possible through ionized water". e: The back says "For questions contact your water works or gardener."
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Mar 14, 2016 17:13
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flosofl posted:Got it. I'll adjust my settings accordingly. I recommend the Very German detent on your humo(u)r dial.
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Mar 14, 2016 17:15
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flosofl posted:Got it. I'll adjust my settings accordingly.
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Croc Monster posted:I recommend the Very German detent on your humo(u)r dial. Also I can sell you a high grade wooden dial to enhance the quality of your German humour. $675.
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