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Joementum posted:The Kentucky legislature is preparing legislation that would allow Rand to run for both Senate and President at the same time. Kentucky Republicans are going to let the Supreme Court tell them how to write their own state's laws? RINO alert!
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Joementum posted:The Kentucky legislature is preparing legislation that would allow Rand to run for both Senate and President at the same time. Wouldn't any law that currently banned the practice be struck down as unconstitutional? The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that individual states and the US Congress cannot impose further restrictions than what is already within the US Constitution+amendments for federal offices.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Wouldn't any law that currently banned the practice be struck down as unconstitutional? The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that individual states and the US Congress cannot impose further restrictions than what is already within the US Constitution+amendments for federal offices. Thats why theres no argument about the law. The KY secretary of state would have to follow state law, then they'd have to go to federal court when they sue and be certain of losing but this way saves a ton of money.
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Gen. Ripper posted:Welcome to the Beltway press. Everyone plausible is running, even if they decide to hook up a cross-country stereo system to announce they aren't. That actually sounds like a pretty good indicator someone is running.
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bhlaab posted:Yknow, I think he has a shot this time! Either him, Rick Santorum, or Newt Gingrich. The circle of winners, I call em. If the last two Republican primaries are any indication: if you run enough times eventually the GOP will just go "oh my God fine, let's nominate that guy. It's not like we can do any worse."
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VitalSigns posted:If the last two Republican primaries are any indication: if you run enough times eventually the GOP will just go "oh my God fine, let's nominate that guy. It's not like we can do any worse." Hmm? They've chosen the previous runner-up, assuming he ran again, going all the way back to Reagan. Reagan lost to Ford, HW lost to Reagan, Dole lost to HW, Buchanan or whoever the runner up was did not run in 2000, McCain lost to Bush and Romney lost to McCain.
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Dec 22, 2013 21:26
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Cliff Racer posted:Hmm? They've chosen the previous runner-up, assuming he ran again, going all the way back to Reagan. So that means 2016 will be the Year of the Newt. Or Peak Santorum, either way.
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Cliff Racer posted:Hmm? They've chosen the previous runner-up, assuming he ran again, going all the way back to Reagan. That's what I'm saying.
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OAquinas posted:So that means 2016 will be the Year of the Newt. Or Peak Santorum, either way. I can get behind either of these.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I can get behind either of these. Behold! A wild Huckabee approaches!
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skaboomizzy posted:Behold! A wild Huckabee approaches! I'm sure I'll live to eat my words but I still ain't convinced. He's just teasing it and dropping the radio show to lighten his workload and get a better paycheck from his Fox News gig.
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Brian Schweitzer continues his campaign to be Not Vice President.quote:“We’re a democracy and we don’t just choose the royal families,” he said, noting there has been 20 years of either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House since 1989 “and now we’re talking about (former Florida Gov. Jeb) Bush or a Clinton again.”
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Heh. Still, things I agree with Brian Schweitzer on incremented by one. I don't know a huge amount about him, but I used to follow him back when Sirota was running his stuff. I recall not liking all his energy policies, but generally finding him fairly impressive. Still, he's that folksy Western kind of charismatic that you either like or you don't. He doesn't seem to have the kind of press-the-flesh-and-hold-the-shoulder skills that Diamond Joe or Bill Clinton have.
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skaboomizzy posted:Behold! A wild Huckabee approaches! Nope, his kid gutting a hanging dog and then him firing cops to cover it up would be lethal in the general.
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EBT posted:Nope, his kid gutting a hanging dog and then him firing cops to cover it up would be lethal in the general. But will it be lethal to R primary voters? *cue Dukes of Hazzard music, primitive leering*
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My girlfriend's family received a letter from the National Draft Ben Carson for President Committee. Their potential campaign strategy is flawless.quote:Let's start with the reason that nominating Ben Carson nearly assures the Republican Party of victory in 2016. It takes a bit of an explanation, but I'm confident you will agree once you know the facts.
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Yes, I can say that in the fish and barbecue joints of Seattle's Central District, Dr. Ben Carson is the #1 topic of conversation and a revered figure. The only reason you don't see his framed picture up next to MLK and Ali is because
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Jan 5, 2014 18:25
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quote:In 2011, internal polls showed that Republican Presidential candidate Herman Cain was backed by 40% of black Americans.
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Jan 5, 2014 18:32
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The key word there is internal poll, which would mean you'd have to trust the competence of the Harmain Cain campaign to hire reputable pollsters before trusting the poll. But even that aside it's almost certainly 40% of black Republican primary voters backing Herman Cain, not 40% of black Americans. That's probably also from a sub-sample of a larger poll, so it's statistically meaningless, but also not surprising that they'd back Cain over, say, Rick Perry.
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Jan 5, 2014 18:44
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Yes, let's just take a look at how African Americans vote for a black Republican against a white Democrat: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/MD/S/01/epolls.0.html 
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Forgall posted:Is that actually true? Seems a bit unlikely. Almost certainly not. Maybe he would have got forty percent of African Americans' votes in the primary or 40 percent said they would "consider" him or whatever but there's no way Cain would have gotten 40 percent of the white vote in the general, let alone 40 percent of the black vote. Steele isn't quite the ceiling for Republicans going at the black vote (he ran in a bad year for Republicans) but is pretty close to it. People forget that he was really popular for a Republican in Maryland prior to becoming RNC Chair and destroying its fundraising ability.
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Michael Steele isn't a good example because most black people don't mind waiting a while for their food.  VVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Many people, especially the Daily Show, noticed that Steele looks and sounds like the mustachioed muppet. The X-man cometh fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Jan 5, 2014 20:59
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The X-man cometh posted:Michael Steele isn't a good example because most black people don't mind waiting a while for their food. I am pretty sure that Grover is blue. And additionally a puppet, not a person.
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Jan 6, 2014 03:56
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Michael Steele also once got busy in a Burger King bathroom.
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But did all the other rappers in the top 10 allow him to bump thee?
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quote:Don't forget, it was not that long ago that Republicans won much more than 20% of the black vote. As recently as 1956, Dwight D. Eisenhower received 39% of the black vote. 
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Jan 6, 2014 18:08
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quote:As you know, Barack Obama has very little in common with the average black American. He is not a descendant of slaves, like Dr. Carson. He was never part of the civil rights movement, he was educated in exclusive private schools, and he grew up in an economically comfortable family in Hawaii, not in one of the poorest areas of Detroit, like Ben Carson. 
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Gen. Ripper posted:Really? They're trying to criticize Obama for not being part of a movement that reached its peak when he was 2? Insult all politicians who did not fight in World War 2.
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Jan 6, 2014 18:15
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Lord Hydronium posted:A mere 60 years ago! I'm sure nothing's changed! DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL RACISTS ROBERT BYRD WAS IN THE KKK LBJ USED THE N-WORD ONCE *foams at mouth, collapses, twitching, on ground*
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Zwabu posted:Yes, let's just take a look at how African Americans vote for a black Republican against a white Democrat: To be fair that's a good showing for Republicans in terms of the black vote. Although I think the dogwhistle has increased substantially from Republicans since 2006 though so it'd probably be hard to replicate that.
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Amused to Death posted:To be fair that's a good showing for Republicans in terms of the black vote. Although I think the dogwhistle has increased substantially from Republicans since 2006 though so it'd probably be hard to replicate that. Plus, Michael Steele has gained about 40 IQ points since he stopped shilling for the RNC. He's actually tolerable to watch on MSNBC, as is Steve Schmidt.
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Dave Weigel sifts through a big article about personnel move in Hillary-land and finds this nugget (which is excellent news for Hillary and more generally for fans of competence)quote:
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Weigel on Schweitzer 2016 Schweitzer 2016 Schweitzer 2016
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^^^^^^ This is a top read. First profile I've read about him. So where is Schweitzer now? PPP three weeks ago posted:Democratic Primary Toplines dusty fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Jan 6, 2014 22:09
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To be fair, how would that poll have looked in late 2005-early 2006 for Barack Obama?
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Alter Ego posted:To be fair, how would that poll have looked in late 2005-early 2006 for Barack Obama? Who?  Yeah, way too early for 2016. Still, its probably a hell of a lot more accurate than the equivalent poll for the GOP.
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I imagine Schweitzer's not too concerned about it - history is on his sideWeigel posted:Democrats inside and outside of Montana loved Schweitzer. The liberal “netroots” held him up as a model for other candidates, a bolo-tied Neo who’d cracked the culture-war code. Schweitzer gave a rolling, mocking speech at the 2008 Democratic National Convention that won more praise than the official keynote address.
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Jan 6, 2014 22:19
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Alter Ego posted:To be fair, how would that poll have looked in late 2005-early 2006 for Barack Obama? Obama got 7% in early December 2005 (Hillary Clinton 26%, John Edwards 12%, Joe Lieberman 10%, John Kerry 9%, Barack Obama 7%, Joe Biden 3%, Wesley Clark 3%, Bill Richardson 3%, Evan Bayh 1%, Tim Kaine 1%, Mark Warner 1%) and then wasn't included in a poll again until October 2006 where he got 17% (Hillary Clinton 28%, Barack Obama 17%, John Edwards 13%, Al Gore 13%, John Kerry 12%, Evan Bayh 2%, Joe Biden 2%, Russ Feingold 2%, Bill Richardson 2%, Tom Vilsack 1%).
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quote:BS: Clinton had a very good run. It was eight years of peace and prosperity. But do you recall what the music was, blaring, after they were elected? I love this guy. 
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I'm sure comparing Hillary Clinton's career to being born into power will go over swimmingly. Obama received 3% in a November 2004 open response Gallup poll(second to last on page). I can't find another open-ended poll and he was not included in candidate lists until October 2006 when he received 17% in a CNN poll.
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