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Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

TheBigAristotle posted:

Is there one or two or 10 armies that are considered like the peak of 40k paintjobs? In the world and also in this thread

In this thread I'd say bulbasaurs iron warriors/crows, hixsons night lords, and my fists. Probably another couple 30k posters who I'm forgetting about.

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PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord
I’d nominate SRM and buffalochickens as well. I’m sure I’m missing a ton but those jump to mind.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007
Sulecrist's 30k Sons of Horus and Custodes

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

Booley posted:

In this thread I'd say bulbasaurs iron warriors/crows, hixsons night lords, and my fists. Probably another couple 30k posters who I'm forgetting about.

Lol you’re the only one of those who posts in this thread though.

All of the regularly posted 30k armies are pretty excellent, I don’t know about best in the world or whatever.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

ijyt posted:

Funny, it made me want to never play apocalypse.

Apocalypse works best when everyone has enough space to play. Even though the table was 6' wide we definitely had way too much stuff on there. Something where the deployments were staggered (50% on turn 1, 50% on turn 2, or maybe 33% on turns 1-3) would probably help a lot. Had they limited forces to 2500 or 2000 points instead of 3000 it would also have been more accessible, as the largest narrative game was 2500. I didn't actually bring 3000 but it worked out fine.

TheBigAristotle posted:

It looks extremely cool but how does it move on such a crowded board?

And don't say very carefully

Stuff goes underneath it. You move the whole thing around, find where the three bases can make contact with the ground, and that's where it goes. For the most part it hovered in the back with plenty of range on all the weapons.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

PierreTheMime posted:

I’d nominate SRM and buffalochickens as well. I’m sure I’m missing a ton but those jump to mind.

these dudes are the kings

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man
+1 Buffchick and adding MasterSlowPoke's Rainbow Warriors to the mix.

WhiteWolf123
Jun 18, 2008

The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.
Yeast has a pretty sick Guard army too...

The Deleter
May 22, 2010
My dream when I collected Tau as a kid was to have a Manta, but be able to open it up like some kind of G I Joe playset and physically deploy Fire Warriors and battlesuits from it. Whilst making jet noises.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

TheBigAristotle posted:

Is there one or two or 10 armies that are considered like the peak of 40k paintjobs? In the world and also in this thread

Best in the world is super subjective since it depends on preference as regards style, and also what you consider "an army." There's plenty of great painters who don't actually play the game and if they produce anything like a tabletop-legal army it's a disjointed mess that works out to 1127 points and has too many HQs, but they're not actually interested in playing the game so they don't care. Equally there's guys who paint up an exactly 2k army to take to events to win painting awards, or there's people who collect an army in the traditional sense where they end up with like 4-5k of options they can swap in and out, etc.

I've personally known a couple of people whose work was so good and so flawlessly 'eavy Metal style that it ended up being used in rulebooks and such by GW, but that has all the limitations and such that the GW house style implies. On the other hand I knew a dude whose work was the best and most painterly stuff I've ever seen, with a much greater range, but who didn't tend to win awards because e.g. a more striking or visually interesting army was present even if it wasn't technically as good.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Booley posted:

my fists
:thunk:

You can't just nominate yourself like that.

Salynne
Oct 25, 2007

Safety Factor posted:

:thunk:

You can't just nominate yourself like that.

His fists.

:colbert:

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012


veto

e: its not iron warriors

ijyt fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Sep 3, 2018

Fake James
Aug 18, 2005

Y'all got any more of that plastic?
Buglord
Nova recap time!

This was my first wargaming convention I've played at (I attended Adepticon this year but only for an evening of goonmeeting). I've been playing Warhammer since 1998 and this was hands down the most fun I've had playing it.

I played in the narrative and met some amazing people, both goons and normies. Although I lost most of my games - winning only a team match and another where I mixed up my lists and had an additional 300 pts on the board (i informed my opponent who told me to make it up to him with a rematch next year, and a beer) - I had a lot of fun playing every match as my oppponents were all wonderful dudes.

Special shout out to SRM, The Sex Cannon, MasterSlowpoke, WhiteoutMouse, Beer4TheBeerGod, Safety Factor, Bonds0079, OhDearGodNo, The Chirurgeon, TwoBeans, and any other goons I met but forgot the screennames of for being super awesome to talk with and for having exceptional armies on display. I hope everyone had safe travels back home and Beer4TheBeerGod, I hope you are able to find a solution for your varnish issue.

Thank you everyone for making this an exceptionally fun weekend, and I already can't wait for Adepticon and next year's Nova.

I'll be uploading photos as well once I'm home and not phone posting.

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man
Made a start on my "not space wolves" from Tooth and Claw. going for a dark grey rather than light blue grey because gently caress it why not.

Grey is shaded but not highlighted yet or scribbled over with litanies, except the right most guy who was the quickly painted test model from yesterday who is a more representative version of what the other four will look like (only tidier).

Badablack
Apr 17, 2018
Apocalypse can be fun, but you really shouldn’t be bringing anything smaller than a tank. Moving a hundred piddly guardsmen so they can fire 200 shots that do nothing and then get absently roasted by a titan is a waste of time and space, and a bunch of dice rolling for nothing

Competitive Apocalypse for prizes sounds like a super bad idea too.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Badablack posted:

Apocalypse can be fun, but you really shouldn’t be bringing anything smaller than a tank. Moving a hundred piddly guardsmen so they can fire 200 shots that do nothing and then get absently roasted by a titan is a waste of time and space, and a bunch of dice rolling for nothing

Competitive Apocalypse for prizes sounds like a super bad idea too.

The Guardsman babysat objectives.

I agree having any kind of competitive element to an Apocalypse game is a bad idea. Especially when some folks were bringing more points than others. I would rather the results of the final battle be exclusively for a narrative result.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

The Guardsman babysat objectives.

I agree having any kind of competitive element to an Apocalypse game is a bad idea. Especially when some folks were bringing more points than others. I would rather the results of the final battle be exclusively for a narrative result.

I'm surprised that despite the Manta there don't appear to be any Warlords on that Apoc table.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Z the IVth posted:

I'm surprised that despite the Manta there don't appear to be any Warlords on that Apoc table.

They all played 30K.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Z the IVth posted:

I'm surprised that despite the Manta there don't appear to be any Warlords on that Apoc table.
The 30k Apocalypse game was full of 'em. Knights and titans all over the place; god only knows how much money was on the board in that game.


I wandered over during the finale/awards and it turned out someone had killed two knights, a warhound, and a reaver with a single unit of Salamanders Firedrake terminators. With thunder hammers.
:black101:

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
All on a table 4' wide.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

JBP posted:

40k actually came out before anime so really anime is just 40k.
Are...are you loving kidding me? Google tells me that Gundam originally aired in 1979. I remember watching StarBlazers (aka "Space Battleship Yamato"), which first aired in Japan in 1974 and was already in re-runs in the US when I watched in elementary school in the late 1970's. By comparison, the original Warhammer 40K (Rogue Trader) didn't come out until 1987. I know, because I played it in middle school. :corsair:

It's cool if you don't like anime. It's not cool that you suck at both history and google-fu.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
It really sucks how Games Workshop ripped off Blizzard and stole their IP.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.
Ooooooohhhhhhh.....

:thejoke:

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

It really sucks how Games Workshop ripped off Blizzard and stole their IP.

There's only one appropriate response to that...

BurlapNapkin
Feb 11, 2013
Painted army wise, I've really appreciated watching Beer4TheBeerGod's skullboys come together. I generally get pretty fatigued by all the space marine that's all over everything Warham, but these ones are really cohesive (and fit the criteria of being a game army). So, well done there, not bad for a random seeded chapter name!

Of course, I can't say things about vividly colored primaris without tipping a hat to MasterSlowpoke, because god drat... Even just the models/bases contrast going on is just so nice on those rainbow warriors.

I cannot find or remember who made Tau based with sandy shoreline (small force, I think?), those were some nice anime robots.

Really looking forward to some Orks... Orktober cannot come soon enough, to which end, does anyone in the thread already play/paint them much?

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
Thanks!

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





BurlapNapkin posted:

Painted army wise, I've really appreciated watching Beer4TheBeerGod's skullboys come together. I generally get pretty fatigued by all the space marine that's all over everything Warham, but these ones are really cohesive (and fit the criteria of being a game army).

You know its funny you say that, because lately it seems that (aside from Blood Angel Smash Captains) Space Marines are pretty much extinct in competitive play. I've played eight games over three tournaments in the last month or so, and I haven't fought a single Marine. I can only recall seeing one majority Marine army, even.

For the face of the franchise, Marines were not well served by getting their codex first.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

jng2058 posted:

You know its funny you say that, because lately it seems that (aside from Blood Angel Smash Captains) Space Marines are pretty much extinct in competitive play. I've played eight games over three tournaments in the last month or so, and I haven't fought a single Marine. I can only recall seeing one majority Marine army, even.

For the face of the franchise, Marines were not well served by getting their codex first.

Certainly not the original codex. If I hadn't fielded Knights I would have lost a lot more.

They never seem to be competitive.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord
Space Marines have really suffered more than any other faction with the reworking of armor saves. 3+ was incredibly durable back when AP2-3 weapons were difficult to come in useful quantities for a lot of armies. Nowadays, even a -1 AP makes your tough space marine a toss up against a weapon profile they would have laughed off before. The introduction of mid-strength D2-3 weapons with good AP is a knock out for Primaris too. I mean, Dark Reapers were marine killers before but now :pwn:.

As primarily a Tyranid player I don’t deny that I relish the occasional Space Marine match-up, especially since Nids used to have almost no AP at all and now swim in it, but it is blatantly unfair without Knights or another faction combined. I admit it feels really great to wipe an entire Primaris unit with a single Exocrine per then.

Marines need some type of Superhuman Constitution rule that allows them to count all AP as one less or something at a bare minimum to make their troops more survivable. I’m sure there are more elegant/subtle options but it certainly wouldn’t hurt.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Not to mention ap5 is so much better vs hordes than the modern -0 bolter.

Marines are costed the same but their weapons and armor both got worse.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

TheBigAristotle posted:

Is there one or two or 10 armies that are considered like the peak of 40k paintjobs? In the world and also in this thread

RichyP had an absolutely phenomenal Dark Eldar army.

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS

Eifert Posting posted:

Not to mention ap5 is so much better vs hordes than the modern -0 bolter.

Marines are costed the same but their weapons and armor both got worse.

S5 Ap4 weapons used to wound guardsmen on 2s and give them no save. Now they wound on 3s and get a 6+.

The same weapons wounded marines on 3s and they got a 3+, now it's on 3s with a 4+.

Didn't guardsmen get cheaper, too? I think they were 50 points before.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Safety Factor posted:

The 30k Apocalypse game was full of 'em. Knights and titans all over the place; god only knows how much money was on the board in that game.


I wandered over during the finale/awards and it turned out someone had killed two knights, a warhound, and a reaver with a single unit of Salamanders Firedrake terminators. With thunder hammers.
:black101:

S..s...salamanders OP?

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Lord_Hambrose posted:

S..s...salamanders OP?

Its 30k, so it's based on 7th. Which means that those Firedrake Termies are 2+/3++ in a system where there's no armor penalties. They're tough as nails and hit like a squad full of trucks.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

jng2058 posted:

Its 30k, so it's based on 7th. Which means that those Firedrake Termies are 2+/3++ in a system where there's no armor penalties. They're tough as nails and hit like a squad full of trucks.

He’s fully aware of 30k lol.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





ijyt posted:

He’s fully aware of 30k lol.
I can barely keep track of what I play, I can't be bothered to remember who plays what around here. :shrug:

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

I’ve moved my current Khan to a Lieutenant (with teeth of terra I’d prefer to have him re-rolling wounds) and decided to make a new Khan this time with a thunder hammer + storm shield. With 1 CP it becomes the shield eternal and all damage on the Khan is halved.

Body is from the special edition sergeant I got in my NOVA swag bag, the hammer cut short from a deathwatch sprue, and the shield is the emblem cut out of an armor panel (from a FW rhino kit that I didn’t have any use for.)



Unfortunately on the way home my Stormseer became a casualty (may have happened when I was packing him up during the Apoc) so I decided to do something I’ve been meaning to for a while- demoted him from an actual Primaris Librarian to a normal one and slapping a jump pack on him.

WIP:


Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




KT focus on the Elucidian Starstriders

- 3 extra specialists above the normal limit with the named characters
- Voidsmen have BS3+ and a Rotor Cannon (4 D2 shots)
- Elucia Vhane has a completely new specialization, Strategist, and can be upgraded to levels 2, 3, or 4 from the start
- Tactic - Killing Strikes: makes the Death Cult Executioner's power blades do d3 damage
- Tactic - Combat Medicine: use the Medic's heal twice in one phase
- Tactic - Executioner Shell: the sergeant of the Voidsmen can make a single shot with his shotgun with +3 to hit and does 1 mortal wound

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Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
My take aways:
-Dog
-Dog
-Look at the dog
-Dog
-Doberman
-Dog
-Seriously look at that loving dog
-Pupper

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