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I'm sorry but V Nasty sounds like mc pee pants from aqua teen hunger force
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don't compare mc pee pants to v nasty
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Dec 18, 2018 15:48
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actavis is the best song on dance party i wish danny would sing more even if hes not very good
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Dec 18, 2018 16:07
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Here's the new Danny Brown mixtape a xmas miracle blessed only a few tracks in and already real good pain pills... caliente
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Dec 18, 2018 16:19
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Dec 18, 2018 18:10
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That is so not my normal style but it also loving owns so I dig it
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Dec 18, 2018 18:56
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alansmithee posted:You're actually right about Gucci for the most part (although compared to a lot of the new soundcloud dudes he's basically SLR-style Lupe) but don't know why you really comparing him with three 6, who were never really known for trap stuff. The Memphis sound from Mystic Stylez era is basically entirely different (and the more crunk stuff from their later stuff is to fwiw). That said I don't think he's listened to for his pure lyrical prowess, and even though I think he's average at best rapping he's had some solid songs (although nowhere near as many as his fans would have you believe). Also also for the old three 6 stuff a lot of that sound is intentional as it's supposed to be mimicking horror movies and whatnot. Unlike a lot of what gets labeled horrorcore which has some surface similarities, most of the horror tropes are meant to be a commentary on street life vs. the more explicit horror-for-horror sake of dudes like Necro or w/e. A lot of guys point to three 6 as a main influence in trap, I guess because of Lord finesse flow. I also have been listening to some Florida artists like Spaceghostpurpp, Raider Klan and Denzel Curry and people said to check out three 6 for one of their main influences. But I'll give it a listen with what you said in mind. Horror style commentary on the streets sounds cool actually.
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Dec 18, 2018 19:08
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Candy Crush on that Danny tape 
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Dec 18, 2018 19:14
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Hope it doesn't make me a bad man for liking the new Kodak Black. Enjoying the production. I caught some of the Danny brown tape when he streamed it on twitch. Dude laughed at my jokes and called me a funny dude when I reminded him to take his magnesium before bed.
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Dec 18, 2018 19:26
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Ornithology posted:A lot of guys point to three 6 as a main influence in trap. You are correct. The Memphis rap sound is known for its darkness, heavy bass, and fast flows. It was Memphis and Miami that laid out the blueprint for Crunk. Infamous was the first one to feature true tongue twisting outside of FF/Project Blowed/CVE.
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Dec 18, 2018 19:49
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3-6 with dat condensed high hat
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Dec 18, 2018 19:50
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aesop rock + tobacco collabo "Malibu Ken" is dope as gently caress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqY2CNMsFKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzieBpafT2o
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Dec 18, 2018 19:55
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Ornithology posted:A lot of guys point to three 6 as a main influence in trap, I guess because of Lord finesse flow. Also from a production standpoint dj paul and juicy j (from 3 6), as well as lil John pioneered the crunk sound which was a precursor to trap. What young people now call underground rap like suicideboys and bones is heavily inspired by early 3 6. https://youtu.be/487dU_-89uI
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Dec 18, 2018 20:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnuAE_0alxo
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Missionary Positron posted:aesop rock + tobacco collabo "Malibu Ken" is dope as gently caress: hell loving yeah new malibu ken. i'm very keen for this album. acid king has been on regular rotation and corn maze can join it. the production is insane.
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Dec 18, 2018 23:26
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Ornithology posted:A lot of guys point to three 6 as a main influence in trap, I guess because of Lord finesse flow. All those dudes are heavily influenced by three 6 (especially the early stuff). Also Lil Ugly Mane who was mentioned earlier (and who imo did the best version of that style). All that said, you may just not like that style (or at least the early stuff) and honestly that's fine. Def give it another listen, and appreciate all the influence that they had but may just not be your thing. like Nos (who was my favorite rap writer before he basically quit writing) really geeks out over a bunch of early rap stuff and goes into how it was influential and stuff and like I find a ton of that basically unlistenable.
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When the smoke clears was always my favorite 3 6 album, it’s also very accessible for the newer listener
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Pay you cheese I'll give you quarters I'll just wait for court to order Mexico is where you'll find me somewhere round the loving border Hanging with the finest women, walking with a gangsta limping Drinking on a case of DP, goody green you know we with it
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https://twitter.com/torylanez/status/1075117699271979011?s=19
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Dec 19, 2018 04:28
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What is wrong with that dude
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Dec 19, 2018 04:47
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This owns.
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Dec 19, 2018 04:53
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I feel like picking a fight with Royce is a tremendously lovely idea if it's limited to the mic (seriously, he'll loving bury Tory) but otherwise Tory kinda has a point, threatening people over the net is and always has been cornball poo poo
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Dec 19, 2018 04:57
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They’ve gotta throw hands in a Windsor casino now.
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Dec 19, 2018 05:00
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Henchman of Santa posted:They’ve gotta throw hands in a Windsor casino now. You know how, for some reason kids would shout "FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT" when a schoolyard fight would break out (and then whine when it drew a teacher or principal's attention)? That would be similar, except a lot of dummies yelling out "WORLDSTAR"
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El Gallinero Gros posted:You know how, for some reason kids would shout "FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT" when a schoolyard fight would break out (and then whine when it drew a teacher or principal's attention)? That would be similar, except a lot of dummies yelling out "WORLDSTAR" And half of them are 19-year-olds crossing the river to drink.
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Dec 19, 2018 05:04
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Henchman of Santa posted:And half of them are 19-year-olds crossing the river to drink. poo poo, that's what keeps Windsor alive, probably
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While we're on the topic of trap influences, what started the whole ad-lib craze? Obviously Migos made it really popular but it seems like the ad-libs aren't as present in the early trap influences that I hear about. It seems pretty critical as it adds another rhythmic layer to otherwise basic beats, in my opinion. I'm more thinking Migos or maybe Young Thug distinctive ad-libs not so much the Travis Scott repeated "yeah" sample ad-libs which are less cool. Gucci's are also pretty repetitive to the point where I think he might just reuse samples of him saying his own name from other songs. I'm surprised I like the sound of it because at first I only listened to Migos ironically due to some of the idiotic sounding ad-libs like momma! and cookie! but now I realized it actually adds another rhythmic layer to the song and makes it way more interesting. Also I really dislike hype men oriented live performances with guys who just repeat lines or say yeah, which is kind of along the same lines as ad-libs but not quite. Somehow modern trap has perfected it to the point where the ad-libs are just part of the beat instead of being a guy finishing your line for you because you're out of breath. One more thing - why is "punching in" i.e. recording one line at a time, considered an impressive thing? Lil Wayne being the most obvious example but Young Thug records this way too. Aside from not writing down the lyrics I'm not seeing what's impressive about only being able to perform a line at a time. It tends to result in very poor live performances. As a jazz musician we tend to do things in one take, having to do 500 takes to record a verse properly doesn't show skill in my opinion.
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The Young Jeezy, Gucci era really brought in adlibs. I can't tell you who started what but everybody did it in the early 2000's.
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RBX posted:The Young Jeezy, Gucci era really brought in adlibs. I can't tell you who started what but everybody did it in the early 2000's. Thanks man. I really only listened to old school hip hop until the last year so that makes sense I missed that era. Also, just tried giving mystic styles a second listen and the lyrics and flows are really good. I just find the beats haven't aged that well but I guess a lot of hip hop is like that.Theyre still good just a little basic. Lyrics are way above modern trap though haha. Interesting to hear about stuff besides money, hoes and jewelery. There's also a bit more variety than modern stuff in general. denzelcurrypower fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Dec 19, 2018 |
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it's really weird to hear someone casually denigrating trap as a lesser artform. it's like it's 2013 again. or today on reddit i guess.
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I think a lot of people mistake rapping slowly for rapping poorly, Gucci being a good case in point. His newer output doesn't come close to his older stuff but that comparison ignores just how good his older work was. He's always had fantastic internal rhyme schemes, and has this ability to add syllables to where they absolutely should not fit. His earlier stuff can be dismissed as basic trap but what separates him is that he can in three or four lines deliver a statement that most need an entire track to say. Truth from Trap God is a great example--"I know it's hard for you to sleep knowing you killed your homeboy/You left his son to be a bastard, won't even raise your own boy". The Burrprint 3D was mentioned earlier and is probably his best tape, I'm particularly fond of Excuse Me but the whole thing is great. Classic trap sure, but it outclasses almost every single tape I can think of. No one else can deliver ".45 in the club, I could kill a hippopotamus," and have it come across as a legit statement. "My necklace full of diamonds, his piece gave him a rash/He bought it from the Texaco cos' he done saved his cash/Tryna be like Gucci Mane but he don't have the swag/Needs to take his jewelry off and throw it in the trash." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BrjDE97Wq8 PONEYBOY fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Dec 19, 2018 |
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Post-jail Gucci is pretty boring compared to his old output. Diamonds from Guccimerica is the song I bring up every time I want to illustrate Gucci’s talents. Lots of slant and sight rhymes. https://youtu.be/quhiHD00x6U And it just goes. So much faster and energetic than his recent output. https://youtu.be/fNFWa6bTMoA Nickelodeon is just a demonstration of Gucci’s finesse.
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Marching Powder posted:BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW BRIIIIIIIIIICKSQQUUUUUUAAAAAAAADDDDDDDD BUSTIN AT EMMMM
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Marching Powder posted:it's really weird to hear someone casually denigrating trap as a lesser artform. it's like it's 2013 again. or today on reddit i guess. If you were referring to my posts, read again. I love trap and am interested in where the influences come from. I literally only criticized a single artist (Gucci) for being overrated. The rest is all about trap, a genre that I personally love. I figured some discussion would be interesting instead of just pasting YouTube links? My bad if you meant someone else. And to other others with old Gucci reccomendations, thanks, I'll check em out! denzelcurrypower fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Dec 19, 2018 |
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The real old Gucci is Gucci Sosa, Writing On The Wall, and Chicken Talk. Listen to those.
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I mean, I don’t think “poor lyrical content” is an invalid critique of modern popular trap ala migos or whatever. Most people itt are probably sick of hearing about Pateks at this point I’d imagine. You could argue that’s not really the point of the music and you’d be right but at this point with the over saturation it does get a bit tiresome and I’m a person that listens to that stuff a lot
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https://pitchfork.com/levels/the-best-rap-verses-of-2018/ ka isnt on this list so its trash but i dont hate the list as far as critic rap goes
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