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OwlFancier posted:For the howevermanyth time, donating blood is not a right. The restriction is based on a statistical fact about HIV rates which I would much rather wasn't true, but my preference on the matter won't change whether it is or not, though with luck medical advances may, one day. Hey jackass no one is saying its a civil rights issue. It's just stupid that as someone who is low-risk for HIV that I'm forever barred from donating blood because I occasionally engage in consensual sex with my husband. A prohibition that magically disappears if I lie about it.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 18:59 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:in this context it absolutely is unless Owl also wants black people to not give blood. Black people weren't barred from donating blood in the first place though. I'm not saying the prohibition is good at this point. It's stupid, it serves no purpose, and it discriminates for no reason. However, at the time the prohibition was introduced it made sense to do it because we didn't have the testing capability we do now, and we knew much less about what HIV/AIDS was. Clawing back that prohibition is needlessly difficult because it involves a lot of bureaucracy, and they are afraid of the liability that could presumably occur if even one HIV infection is traced back to a gay man giving blood. Again: the prohibition should not exist, and if it were to be introduced today, it would be a moral judgement. I'm just saying the fact that it continues to exist is due to other stupid factors. I will grant you that anyone who's actively arguing in favour of keeping the ban is probably making a moral judgement.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 20:46 |
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OwlFancier posted:I still see little reason to change it unless having gay men donate is going to make a significant difference to the blood supply's availability.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 21:32 |
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Calm down fags, it wasn't even an attack on a gay bar. https://twitter.com/dnewhauser/status/742808869487939585 https://twitter.com/dnewhauser/status/742809565763362817
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 21:38 |
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MaxxBot posted:Calm down fags, it wasn't even an attack on a gay bar. I had no idea that Latinx people can't be gay. This changes EVERYTHING
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 21:44 |
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EXAKT Science posted:I had no idea that Latinx people can't be gay. This changes EVERYTHING you get ONE minority, ONE! It was Latinx night, so it's not a gay bar!
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 21:49 |
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MaxxBot posted:Calm down fags, it wasn't even an attack on a gay bar. LO-loving-L. Yeah, and all the drag shows were just for the "young people". (I say this seriously, a number of well-known drag queens made Pulse their home, performed there, or had friends in the club and have been deeply impacted by the Orlando shooting.)
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 21:52 |
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Combed Thunderclap posted:LO-loving-L. Yeah, and all the drag shows were just for the "young people". (I say this seriously, a number of well-known drag queens made Pulse their home, performed there, or had friends in the club and have been deeply impacted by the Orlando shooting.) yea wasn't Kenya Michaels doing a show there on the night it went down?
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 21:59 |
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There were also trans performers there on the night of the massacre.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:01 |
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Is "Latinx" really a thing? Just say "Latin@" if you want to cover both possible endings.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:47 |
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PT6A posted:Is "Latinx" really a thing? Just say "Latin@" if you want to cover both possible endings. "Latin@" excludes non-binary identities.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:48 |
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PT6A posted:Is "Latinx" really a thing? Just say "Latin@" if you want to cover both possible endings. Latinx is meant to include not just 'latino' and 'latina' but nonbinary/etc people too. Also Latin@ sounds like the name a terrible Latina DJ would have
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:50 |
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EXAKT Science posted:"Latin@" excludes non-binary identities. I suppose it does. How would a non-binary Latin person be referred to in spoken conversation? Is there an ending, apart from o/a that would be used in that case?
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:51 |
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EXAKT Science posted:I had no idea that Latinx people can't be gay. This changes EVERYTHING I have an ex who won't like this news.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:52 |
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PT6A posted:I suppose it does. How would a non-binary Latin person be referred to in spoken conversation? Is there an ending, apart from o/a that would be used in that case? Probably exactly as you just did, Latin person, or like, 'from (wherever they're actually from)' or something. I've heard people say 'latin-ex' out loud and it sounds fine but I have no clue if that's a 'thing' or just something they do.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:55 |
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In keeping with the thread title the BBC did a pretty interesting interview with a Lesbian Iranian woman and her mother. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36388507 quote:After Sunday's attack on a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, where 49 people were killed by a gunman, vigils in the US, UK and elsewhere have shown solidarity and support for LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) people worldwide.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:56 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Probably exactly as you just did, Latin person, or like, 'from (wherever they're actually from)' or something. I've heard people say 'latin-ex' out loud and it sounds fine but I have no clue if that's a 'thing' or just something they do. Makes sense. I meant how would they be referred to and/or refer to themselves in Spanish more than in English, since there's no non-gendered way of saying Latin in Spanish.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 22:58 |
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Nckdictator posted:In keeping with the thread title the BBC did a pretty interesting interview with a Lesbian Iranian woman and her mother. Ooof
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 23:01 |
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PT6A posted:Makes sense. I meant how would they be referred to and/or refer to themselves in Spanish more than in English, since there's no non-gendered way of saying Latin in Spanish. ah, yea no clue there, yea foreign languages can be tricky for that stuff, hard to express 'nonbinary' when the fuckin chair's a lady apparently.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 23:02 |
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EXAKT Science posted:"Latin@" excludes non-binary identities. I guess that would be an issue with Romantic languages that specifically gender their words. But Latin@ can't be gay? gently caress, someone better tell Brazil this.
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 23:02 |
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Nckdictator posted:In keeping with the thread title the BBC did a pretty interesting interview with a Lesbian Iranian woman and her mother. God that's horrible
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 23:02 |
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Nckdictator posted:In keeping with the thread title the BBC did a pretty interesting interview with a Lesbian Iranian woman and her mother. I don't believe it has anything to do with human sexuality, because it requires a set of physiological conditions that don't occur in human gestation, and I'm always wary of biological reductionism when it comes to people, but lol at "there are no female cows that exhibit mating behaviors with other female cows."
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 23:05 |
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Can we also point those people at animals like the species of lizard that is composed entirely of females, that reproduce asexually, but still engage in mating behavior with each other (to possibly induce egg-laying)? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/asexual-lizards/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail "It goes against nature!" is one of the weakest arguments someone can make against homosexuality.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 13:25 |
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Schubalts posted:Can we also point those people at animals like the species of lizard that is composed entirely of females, that reproduce asexually, but still engage in mating behavior with each other (to possibly induce egg-laying)? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/asexual-lizards/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail And that isn't even to mention the thousands of recorded instances of homosexuality that occur in nature otherwise.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 14:09 |
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CommieGIR posted:And that isn't even to mention the thousands of recorded instances of homosexuality that occur in nature otherwise. But MAGNETS!!! Checkmate libtard!
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 14:20 |
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Yeah, but there's also thousands of instances of poo poo we really shouldn't be excusing by appeal to nature that occur too, like gang rape in ducks and traumatic insemination in bedbugs and all kinds of poo poo that occurs in the parasite world. Human gender and sexuality is something that seems to be quite fluid and culturally defined and the standard should be more like "this is okay because it's all risk-aware consenting adults" or "this is okay because the harms of homophobia and transphobia are far worse than any harms caused by being welcoming and inclusive" and not "this is okay because giraffes". And there are problems with those standards too, but that's what happens when you try to analyze social things from within society. Don't be poo poo to people and listen to other people's lived experiences I guess.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 14:23 |
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Guavanaut posted:Yeah, but there's also thousands of instances of poo poo we really shouldn't be excusing by appeal to nature that occur too, like gang rape in ducks and traumatic insemination in bedbugs and all kinds of poo poo that occurs in the parasite world. Its more to demonstrate that their argument that being gay is against nature is false. Yes, there is plenty of hosed up stuff in nature, nature is generally awful.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 14:33 |
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Its why we built society in the first place, to get the gently caress away from nature and protect ourselves from it. Unfortunately, our unnatural society is the only thing that teaches homophobia as a learned instinct into our species because "it goes against nature" or any other excuse that justifies the hatred.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 14:44 |
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I don't know whether to laugh or not over the gop trying so hard to pin the shooting as foreign terror and how we need to shut off the flow of refugees. Are there no depths they won't stoop to? Donald Trump really is the leader they deserve. Forever.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 17:52 |
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Like, that has to be directed at reassuring the religious right that is still ok to hate gay people because it's still protestants that are truly persecuted, right?
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 18:17 |
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Kylra posted:Like, that has to be directed at reassuring the religious right that is still ok to hate gay people because it's still protestants that are truly persecuted, right? Oh I think it absolutely is; they're trying to minimize the cognitive dissonance of having to act like they care about the victims while Republican candidates were happy to get on stage with that "kill the gays" pastor. As well as like you said they'll do anything to shift the conversation from homophobia (where all but the most stupid know they're losing) to islamophobia.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 18:36 |
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Kylra posted:I don't know whether to laugh or not over the gop trying so hard to pin the shooting as foreign terror and how we need to shut off the flow of refugees. Are there no depths they won't stoop to? Donald Trump really is the leader they deserve. Forever. If it makes you feel better, its killing his ratings, the only people who buy that are the Tea Party mongoloids that already support him no matter what.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 18:53 |
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This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man Guavanaut posted:Why did they pick the one animal that this is most well known not to be true for? I've spent relatively little of my life around cattle and I know that freemartins are a thing. Serious answer? Iran doesn't have that many cows. While I'm sure the numbers have grown since the 18th century, the comparison of local rulers wealth from that era usually listed sheep and goats in the tens, or hundreds of thousands, and I'm not sure I ever saw a rulers cow herd as being listed over a hundred. Schizotek fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Schizotek posted:This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man That loving sucks. Sorry.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 23:16 |
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Schizotek posted:This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man welcome to the family disappointment club
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 23:17 |
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Schizotek posted:This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man Sorry to hear that, friend
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 23:20 |
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Schizotek posted:This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man Dang.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 23:20 |
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Schizotek posted:This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man I'm so sorry dude.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 23:21 |
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Schizotek posted:This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man I wish there was something more I could say, that sort of pain runs very deep.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 23:37 |
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Crossposting to a better thread than USPOL because I wasn't thinking about it: Planned Parenthood is doing a small, but good, thing.
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# ? Jun 15, 2016 23:54 |