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thetan_guy42
Oct 15, 2016

murdera

Lipstick Apathy

Filthy Hans posted:

NB2, I don't have any pics of it that don't have my face in them so I'll crop and post when I'm not feeling lazy

It was black cherry mica and it had the optional 6-speed short-throw manual and I miss it dearly, even though NB2s are comparatively porky

navigating the highways and merging and poo poo is the Houston equivalent of a nyc fixed gear cyclist flowing through traffic if you ever watched those videos, just endless jacked up trucks and no one ever sees you dodging death everyday going to work. Anyways my 'iata is perfect but it'd be cool to have a hardtop

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Leroy Diplowski
Aug 25, 2005

The Candyman Can :science:

Visit My Candy Shop

And SA Mart Thread
I'm about to head out on a 3 day bike trip in a couple of minutes. If some car driving gently caress head runs me over I want my last post to be in this thread

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Leroy Diplowski posted:

I'm about to head out on a 3 day bike trip in a couple of minutes. If some car driving gently caress head runs me over I want my last post to be in this thread

o7

i shall always remember your blueberry rock candy made in a cargo container florida, your life shall life on in lipid cells developed 10 years ago within my body. goonspeed good sir and come back with thicc thighs

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

People that steal catalytic converters should be guillotined. If you steal the catalytic converter, THEN torch the car, that's fine, you will be saved from the guillotine, though you may be subject to other consequences.

“Guillotine the downtrodden cat thieves” - C-SPAM, 2021

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
obviously the people jacking cats are poor and desperate, crushed by an uncaring society lol but lets be honest for a sec here: stealing the cat usually totals the car now which super sucks, and imo people should not be stealing them. hot take i know.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
taking cats off beater cars is praxis bc it'll encourage them to take the bus since they cant replace it and thus lower emissions, and then someone else gets $100 in scrap metal money. win/win all around imo

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

Xaris posted:

taking cats off beater cars is praxis bc it'll encourage them to take the bus since they cant replace it and thus lower emissions, and then someone else gets $100 in scrap metal money. win/win all around imo

lol, i can just about guarantee that they won't be taking the bus if they weren't already before, now they're just driving a stupid loud shitbox dumping unburnt fuel and volatile nitrogen compounds into open atmosphere :waycool:

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

lol, i can just about guarantee that they won't be taking the bus if they weren't already before, now they're just driving a stupid loud shitbox dumping unburnt fuel and volatile nitrogen compounds into open atmosphere :waycool:

okay you've got a point, but that also sounds like praxis

up until smog recert time anyways. then ????? idk maybe a means-tested low-rate loan program to get it replaced? or what if we do another cash4clunkers program so they can turn it into $1500 afterwards when smog cert comes.

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
never forget what they took from you

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit

lobster shirt posted:

here is a great essay about why cars are bad and why we gotta get rid of em: http://unevenearth.org/2018/08/the-social-ideology-of-the-motorcar/

came here 2 post this

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Hubbert posted:

never forget what they took from you


emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit
cars are stupid and evil fo sho, but what about specifically contemporary cars?

I'm bumming through life without a loving car still thankfully, but to my parents life without a car is literally unthinkable. They're leasing this brand new Subaru SUV and it's tricked out the rear end with electronic gizmos that are just as much of an IoT nightmare as they are a convenience.

There's a touchscreen in the front with a proprietary operating system that puts a massive software layer between you and the controls. Look down at your HUD? The car beeps at you to keep your eyes on the road. Nudge the line on the highway? The car autosteers you back to the center. Take a hand off the wheel to push one of your dozens of buttons? BEEP gently caress you hands on the wheel. The cruise control can auto-follow at a distance and will auto-brake all the way to a standstill with no input whatsoever - you barely have to drive it all, just steer the thing in vaguely the right direction. There are sensors and chips and wires and software stuffed all over the loving place.

The result is a tire fire of unnecessary complexity and systemic failure points. Something is always wrong with this thing, and when anything breaks so does the rest of it. I shut the door on the seatbelt accidentally once, and it killed the sensor that tells the car that the door is closed. The loving thing wouldn't drive without an override and a constant 'door ajar' signal blaring. Over a grand to fix the door. The windshield is 'smart' and has some kinda sensors hooked up to it - when that poo poo breaks more alarms and software fuckery, and they cost like 5x what a regular rear end window would to replace.

You can't just go to a regular rear end bumfuck car repair shop to fix any of this - anything that involves the software (and everything does) requires a Subaru specialist to deal with. It's not like they're gonna give their drivers root level access to the OS - the faintest hint of a glitch and it's back to the dealer for a enlightened techbro's gentle touch and an exorbitant sum.

Something in this horrific beast breaks once a month at least. You could base a calendar on the regularity of some stupid tiny gizmo in amongst the labyrinthine nest of utter bullshit crapping out and taking a bunch of other stupid gimmicks with it. If you're lucky the car might actually still be able to do car things long enough to get it back to the dealer.

I have explained all of this and why it's happening to my parents, and they still insist that the comfort and convenience are worth it.

Computers + cars. Not even once.

emTme3 has issued a correction as of 23:39 on Aug 27, 2021

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Hubbert posted:

never forget what they took from you


hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Xaris posted:

okay you've got a point, but that also sounds like praxis

up until smog recert time anyways. then ????? idk maybe a means-tested low-rate loan program to get it replaced? or what if we do another cash4clunkers program so they can turn it into $1500 afterwards when smog cert comes.



someone edit this to read "leftism" and "steal catalytic converters" and "wait for o'biden car"

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
i had to yell at someone "hit the gas! go! go!" as he was slowly rolling over the train tracks as the CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG was happening with the big flashy red lights. i looked to my right and saw the train and i'm not sure how close it was, but it was in the "too close" category because i didn't know how fast the train was going. i do know that the van we were in was going slow as shitballs.

loving a, buddy. do whatever you want. get hit by whatever trains you want. just not while i'm in the passenger seat.

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

Leroy Diplowski posted:

I'm about to head out on a 3 day bike trip in a couple of minutes. If some car driving gently caress head runs me over I want my last post to be in this thread

what an honour 🥰

have some twitter threads including this gem




https://twitter.com/ScootFoundation/status/1431212585236385794

https://twitter.com/kevin_degood/status/1431229853790085124

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
here let me just give you a taste of what urban planning loving did to north american cities

http://iqc.ou.edu/2014/12/12/60yrsmidwest/

Hubbert has issued a correction as of 06:21 on Aug 28, 2021

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

docbeard posted:



Actionjackson did say he lives in the suburbs, and the description for our suburban public transit is basically "god help you", it's true. I live in the middle of Minneapolis and my workplace is in deep hellish suburbia and the commute was (prior to my office going more-or-less full WFH) about 1.5-two hours each way and gently caress you if you miss the only bus going out and back because that commuter line is 90% geared toward people who live in the suburbs and work in the cities.


no I live in prospect park right on the minneapolis/st paul border, I hate the suburbs. My parents live in the suburbs though.

if carsharing was actually plentiful I would definitely consider it as an alternative but there's only I think five cars within 2 miles of me haha

actionjackson has issued a correction as of 06:29 on Aug 28, 2021

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
https://youtu.be/0lvUByM-fZk

https://youtu.be/rseaKBPkRPU

donoteat is good

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
i had a friend who offered to give me a car, and i turned him down because i don't have the time or money to deal with any of that loving bullshit

he thought he was doing a favor, and was kind of annoyed/disappointed/something that i didn't want the free car when he was trying to "help" me

yeah, gently caress that poo poo

gently caress cars :yeeclaw:

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011

𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬

Hubbert posted:

never forget what they took from you


super nailgun
Jan 1, 2014


Hubbert posted:

never forget what they took from you


Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

super nailgun posted:

where's this one?

here's one from portland. different angles but same area:





Look at all that foliage lost

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

Ardennes posted:

Portland has a Potemkin transportation system: Max lines usually don't go anywhere useful

sorry to dig up page 2, but what



ive literally never heard this complaint about the max, where are you trying to go lmao

Goast has issued a correction as of 14:46 on Aug 28, 2021

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Smythe posted:

obviously the people jacking cats are poor and desperate, crushed by an uncaring society lol but lets be honest for a sec here: stealing the cat usually totals the car now which super sucks, and imo people should not be stealing them. hot take i know.

gently caress cars and the people that drive them. Death to capitalistic converters.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

mawarannahr posted:

“Guillotine the downtrodden cat thieves” - C-SPAM, 2021

Pollution is everyone's problem, if you are making the world worse the world no longer needs you.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
when all you have is a guillotine...

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Xaris posted:

taking cats off beater cars is praxis bc it'll encourage them to take the bus since they cant replace it and thus lower emissions, and then someone else gets $100 in scrap metal money. win/win all around imo

Actually they just replace the cat with a test-pipe and keep driving their car around but now it's 100x more polluting.

Xaris posted:

okay you've got a point, but that also sounds like praxis

up until smog recert time anyways. then ????? idk maybe a means-tested low-rate loan program to get it replaced? or what if we do another cash4clunkers program so they can turn it into $1500 afterwards when smog cert comes.

Yea what if we gave people with lovely cars tax-credit's that they could use to buy a new tesla? Surely this will work.

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

https://twitter.com/retronouns/status/1431447868989218817

it just keeps going

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Goast posted:

sorry to dig up page 2, but what



ive literally never heard this complaint about the max, where are you trying to go lmao

It avoid most residential areas if you ever have to use it. It is good fine on a map until you realize yeah, it just mostly follows right on ways that make it difficult to use. It is cheaper that way but also a lot more inconvenient.

The Orange line is a good example, it mostly goes through semi industrial areas or rail yards until you get pretty much to the end of the line. The Green isn’t great either since it is in such a weird location along a freeway. The Yellow line hits some residential areas and then leads to a random expo center.

Remember the ideal for transit is about being half a mile in walking distance to a stop and the MAX usually fails at this. Also, it is just painfully slow downtown which makes it using it as a way to travel through not into downtown really a chore and inefficient.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Southpaugh posted:

gently caress cars and the people that drive them. Death to capitalistic converters.

the entire infrastructure of the US was designed for cars, you can't blame people for that, it's the loving government and auto industry

you have a car so it takes 20 minutes to get to work instead of three hours via five buses! gently caress you!!!! ???

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Ardennes posted:

Portland has a Potemkin transportation system: Max lines usually don't go anywhere useful, the Streetcar goes around 10 miles an hour, and most buses come every half an hour at best. It isn't LA bad, but I think most people like its "concept" of a transportation system rather than the one that exists.

Anyway, thankfully, it seems like most of the rest of the world is reversing course. Once you get out of North America (especially one country in particular), things usually get a lot better.

Goast posted:

sorry to dig up page 2, but what



ive literally never heard this complaint about the max, where are you trying to go lmao

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021


tbf bucees are usually like rest stops along the interstate, not like these gigantic things are in the relatively dense urban parts of texas

although i was really excited earlier this year because a lovely condemned building got knocked down in my area and i was hoping for something cool to go there but its just a drat gas station (normal sized) :hotpickle:

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Pollution is everyone's problem, if you are making the world worse the world no longer needs you.

Follow this thought to it's logical conclusion




Death Krew 4 Lyfe

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

The max is good, I’m less than half a mile from a stop with 3 lines.

What we need is east/west streetcar extensions on burnside, Belmont and Hawthorne with the requisite bans on street parking

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
The Max is really inconvenient to use if you don’t live exactly on one of its right of ways (many of which are just in out of the way spots) and often it less useful than taking a bus unless you specifically are going to downtown from a couple select areas. Also, since it is so slow downtown it makes it a lot less useful to use it across the metro area.

Looks good on paper but it has serious draw backs.

Portland doesn’t have the worst system (well theoretically) but the fact that it has such low levels of service and it is so downtown centric really undermines it.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

actionjackson posted:

the entire infrastructure of the US was designed for cars, you can't blame people for that, it's the loving government and auto industry

you have a car so it takes 20 minutes to get to work instead of three hours via five buses! gently caress you!!!! ???

there's also nothing inherently wrong with cars, they do not think or feel, and are not responsible for their design or future. they are just machines. their basic existence is not at odds with a ecologically responsible future, at least, no more than 95%+ of other machines. placing hatred onto cars is completely misguided. it is, as usual, the fault of humans for organizing a society around their mandatory usage that has caused them to proliferate to obscene levels, and a civil design doctrine based on maximum accommodation for them that has created the blight of parking lots, super highways and the dreaded suburb

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008



lmao. the locals love these things. Inside, they're pure chaos, every time I'm inside one it feels like a grocery store filled with people panic buying before a hurricane rolls in, though I have only stopped at these driving to visit family for the holidays. The bathrooms are enormous and have like at least 30 dudes all pissing and making GBS threads continuously. They're disturbing in a way similar to fractals, the enormous scale of making GBS threads and pissing and wandering around inside and pumps feel like a bad trip

biceps crimes has issued a correction as of 17:30 on Aug 28, 2021

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

there's also nothing inherently wrong with cars, they do not think or feel, and are not responsible for their design or future. they are just machines. their basic existence is not at odds with a ecologically responsible future, at least, no more than 95%+ of other machines. placing hatred onto cars is completely misguided. it is, as usual, the fault of humans for organizing a society around their mandatory usage that has caused them to proliferate to obscene levels, and a civil design doctrine based on maximum accommodation for them that has created the blight of parking lots, super highways and the dreaded suburb

All transit is evil but cars are the most wicked of all God's creations. Their metabolism is completely disproportionate to their size and they reproduce far too quickly, we won't be safe until they're all dead.

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ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Filthy Hans posted:

Follow this thought to it's logical conclusion




Death Krew 4 Lyfe

Malthusian's gently caress off.

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