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Llama 3 is getting some noise. There's a small version people are running on small hardware. about https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3/ try https://www.meta.ai/ Mescal fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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I've been doing some basic tests and the 8B model is pretty decent, it does better in some programming and reasoning tasks than larger models like Mixtral 8x7b and Mistral Large. I think the suspicion that earlier models are over-parameterized is true. Microsoft has a 3.8B model coming out soon and they say it's good, who knows.
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Apr 24, 2024 16:38
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Yeah Microsoft is claiming just yesterday they used some novel training methods akin to reading it children's books to get gpt 3.5 performance (which at one point had 170b params, according to the Internet, although I think the turbo model had half as much) out of 3.8b params which would be... Like almost 1/44 the size, which if true  but I'm skeptical as that would mean ChatGPT on a raspberry pi
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Apr 24, 2024 16:51
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Yeah, Microsoft had a white paper last summer starting off their PHI series where they train it using only textbook quality data. One thing I do know is that for decades Microsoft or Bill Gates has been archiving all kinds of data and trying to find permanent ways to store it for the future, I would imagine that those efforts would give them access to those kinds of things.
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Apr 24, 2024 17:42
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Here's a reddit comment https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/1cop93r/paradox_makes_use_of_ai_generated_concept_art_and/  This sounds like an unambiguous good. Using AI to help creative brainstorm? Great idea, I do it all the time. the "I very much suck at" thing is--yeah! It's great to use AI to boost people who are less able. Less great to make it easier for comp... Here's Zagreus, player character from popular game Hades, which came out before good AI.  1 leaf crown 3 dog heads 3 round skulls a couple bracelets 1 reversible garment, pretty simple Here comes the sequel. Melinoe from Hades II  -40 moons -Other stuff Take a look at the picture. I know it's subtle, but that looks AI-based. Those peculiarly meaningless details. These kinds of meaningless multiples are gonna be everywhere soon. Melinoe looks good, but the gods look like Anthony Keidis in that gross basketball picture. They didn't look like they had plastic surgery in the first game. It's because there are Instagram pictures in there even if you're prompting "Comic book." I don't want people who made great art before to start doing this. That "we're never gonna USE the brainstorming art..." is gonna be bullshit every time, probably.
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May 12, 2024 04:27
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Wait, are you saying Hades 2 art is AI? This is the dumbest thing I've read in awhile.
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May 12, 2024 05:21
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Do. Do you think Paradox games made Hades 2.
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May 12, 2024 05:30
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May 12, 2024 05:44
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Mescal posted:extremely dumb garbage wrong
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May 12, 2024 09:16
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One positive aspect of AI that I don't see getting much attention is: spoken word. I think it would be really great if, say, an AI assistant could read on screen text, or a book to someone with a disability. Or even an AI assistant helping the same person by describing the screen to them. I know there are some voice to text things, but it would be nice to have something that doesn't sound like Microsoft Sam. Getting inflection and tone right... I've done a little digging and there's a few models out there. I guess I've seen people using them to read twitch donations and such. But there's no money to be made HELPING people.
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May 12, 2024 09:23
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I saw an obviously AI-generated picture of Jesus on my toast this morning.
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May 12, 2024 10:15
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Replies like  are pretty disingenuous If you're gonna post single sentence rebuttals, why even post? Give us a paragraph, or falling that some kind of coherent rebuttal. This isn't reddit. You can be an rear end in a top hat here, but at the very least state your case I mean, this is interesting Can you present us with the presumptive collaborative argument for? Clearly you thought you might be questioned on this, what is your response to nay sayers SpiritOfLenin posted:wrong What a lovely post
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May 12, 2024 10:38
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Hadlock posted:
AI-garbage deserves equal effort in mocking that its advocates use in creating worthless garbage, which is none at all. Worthless ideas and dumb garbage don't need paragraphs upon paragraphs of text to debunk them, because we have limited time on earth, and it should be used to engage in stuff that has any worth. Just posting simple insults and low-effort jokes is all AI-bros deserve, because that is the exact amount of worth we should give to their ideas. so to reiterate: SpiritOfLenin posted:wrong
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May 12, 2024 11:10
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SpiritOfLenin posted:AI-garbage deserves equal effort in mocking that its advocates use in creating worthless garbage, which is none at all. Worthless ideas and dumb garbage don't need paragraphs upon paragraphs of text to debunk them, because we have limited time on earth, and it should be used to engage in stuff that has any worth. Just posting simple insults and low-effort jokes is all AI-bros deserve, because that is the exact amount of worth we should give to their ideas. Oh ok
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May 12, 2024 11:17
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Maybe be ok with the free exchange of ideas, and don't attempt to silence those who you disagree with. That's a pretty lovely take but I'll shut up now. Cheers sir
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May 12, 2024 11:18
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Monglo posted:Wait, are you saying Hades 2 art is AI? This is the dumbest thing I've read in awhile. the left hand (or right from the subjects perspective) is a real weird oversight, the anatomy doesn't make any sense it's also generally a bit difficult to produce a character holding a weapon, and models will generally just have handheld objects float, or have strange grips at odd angles
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May 12, 2024 12:01
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B-b-b... But that artwork was first released in December 9th 2022 in the release trailer, and would have been made WELL before the trailer was even made. All WELL before this AI artwork nonsenses. What are you trying to... Say?
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May 12, 2024 12:11
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quote:Timeline of all the MidJourney Versions (V1-V6) I ain't saying it was made by a generative model, but that hand is bugging me and deffo should have been spotted and fixed before being released OMFG FURRY fucked around with this message at 12:26 on May 12, 2024 |
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OMFG FURRY posted:I ain't saying it was made by a generative model, but that hand is bugging me and deffo should have been spotted and fixed before being released Ok, fair enough.
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May 12, 2024 12:29
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Samovar posted:Ok, fair enough. Yeah, the moons may be subtle, but the hands aren't.
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Hadlock posted:
I figured I'd get a couple insults then someone would notice the hands Mescal fucked around with this message at 16:25 on May 12, 2024 |
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May 12, 2024 16:17
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Supergiant Hades 2 artist's insta https://www.instagram.com/jenzee_art/ You people should up your meds.
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May 12, 2024 16:26
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Monglo posted:Supergiant Hades 2 artist's insta I'm not gonna get in the weeds. I'm telling you that AI tends to make 40 moons and meaningless glyphs; humans tend to make three skulls and two bracelets. Be aware of the stylistic clues, be informed. If that picture's not made with AI, I won't eat my hat, but it's not provable anyway. Listen to the points I'm making, look at the art again, then keep looking at other art closely. I think it looks like it was made with AI, but whether it was doesn't raise the stakes for the points I'm attempting. My point is these are characteristics to be aware of BEFORE getting all angry about art. And especially before getting angry at me. :D Mescal fucked around with this message at 16:39 on May 12, 2024 |
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May 12, 2024 16:30
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Pretty sure AI would struggle with the symmetrical detail of the belt and the hilt of the dagger. AI art tends to get "lost" when creating symmetrical patterns. It's one of the giveaways. Particularly when that symmetric symbol isn't front facing. The only things that look sorts AI to me are the butts of both weapons. They're squished nothings that don't quite make sense
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May 12, 2024 17:15
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AI generated images bug me a lot less than the human generated witch hunts do.
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I like using AI to fix the sloppy linework and wonky anatomy of my sketches before I refine them in Photoshop. I understand how that in and of itself would make some folks mad, but to me it's just one part of my larger process. It feels like getting mad at using the clone stamp or liquify tools. I totally get that it crosses the line of ethical boundaries because I'm pulling from the inks of comic book artists from the 1940s that I stole from high-resolution Heritage Auction scans. And I'm okay with that, because I make art for fun, and using these tools makes making art more fun because I can get closer to the vision in my head faster and with fewer frustrations. Fewer frustrations means less giving up, less giving up means making more art and getting better at the fundamentals along the way. And I really don't see how someone could take issue with that. Especially because it's for non-commercial works that barely anyone will ever see. Of course it's totally valid to be worried about the future (and present) of commercial art and the exploitation of commercial artists, and it definitely wouldn't surprise me to learn that many commercial artists are using these tools in similar ways today. But I would be shocked if most commercial artists weren't already using at least Photoshop's Generative Fill, and probably quite a bit more at different points in their processes. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 12, 2024 |
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The day AI becomes capable of producing the same amount of hate and vitriol as humans do is the day I start running for the hills.
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Mescal posted:Yeah, the moons may be subtle, but the hands aren't. I was accepting the critique of the hand design. I do NOT hold that it was made by AI in the slightest.
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May 12, 2024 18:19
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look at these: https://www.bing.com/images/create/...DP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/...DP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/...DP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/...DP&mode=overlay  These are fun to make!
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Samovar posted:I was accepting the critique of the hand design. I do NOT hold that it was made by AI in the slightest. Understood
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ComradePyro posted:AI generated images bug me a lot less than the human generated witch hunts do. Motherfuckers act like they forgot about Tay
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May 12, 2024 18:27
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Tay was pure until she met humans
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I'm onto this game artist trying to sneak in unethically sourced non-vegan jpegs and pass them off as organic.
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Mescal posted:look at these: not enough moons and the hands seem fine, are you trying to sneak in human generated images in the AI thread my friend?
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May 13, 2024 06:50
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Mescal posted:look at these: What is your point...? Also, in the earlier example you gave, that one shot of Zagreus is an in-game portrait, and is relatively simplified. That pic of Melinoë is are for the release of the game, and is so more complex.
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May 13, 2024 06:57
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If this person plays the game they're gonna lose their loving mind because that moon shaped symbol is in every room 20 times, as it is part of what is called a motif
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btw I still can't see whats so wrong with the hand Is it the fingers touching? Is this some weird pointy elbow equivalent of ai bros?
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Mikojan posted:btw I still can't see whats so wrong with the hand I think it's the fact that the fingers close together are effectively 'merged', i.e. there's no dividing line between the two of them. I can understand it looking a bit off.
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Mikojan posted:btw I still can't see whats so wrong with the hand try to make your middle and ring finger cross over each other while your index and pinky are spread out
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OMFG FURRY posted:try to make your middle and ring finger cross over each other while your index and pinky are spread out I... Can do that, and pretty easily at that?
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