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Improbable Lobster posted:They couldnčt care less about the lives of their allies or the citizens they were 'liberating'. VanSandman posted:'gently caress you, into the grinder,' and nobody gets a happy ending. Those are both pretty much true of the Iron Warriors, as well as the Iron Hands.
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For those of you that really liked Wrath of Iron, Hammer and Bolter vol 1 has another short Iron Hands story by Chris Wraight. It's called "Flesh" and touches on most of the same themes.
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Sep 25, 2013 19:23
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I really wish they'd switch the names of the Iron Warriors and Iron Hands. Annoys me the legion that is all about doing away with the flesh for cold metal anatomy are the Iron Hands while the legion that prides itself for punching through defenses of all kinds are the Iron Warriors. Though I guess that opens me up to jokes of Omega Legion and the Salamanders being the new Dark Angels.
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Sep 25, 2013 20:54
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Khizan posted:Those are both pretty much true of the Iron Warriors, as well as the Iron Hands.
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Sep 25, 2013 21:11
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berzerkmonkey posted:Yeah, but the Iron Hands are supposed to be the good guys... Eh. Define good.
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Sep 25, 2013 21:17
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Really, there are no good guys in 40k(maybe the Salamanders?). The Iron Hands are supposed to be the "slightly less evil" side.
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VanSandman posted:Eh. Define good. Good = Not Heresy (According to the great Adeptus officials, whose word it is heresy to question) vvvv Heresy. One Legged Cat fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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Sep 25, 2013 22:07
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One Legged Cat posted:Good = Not Heresy Although not committing heresy is not necessarily equal to "good" but it may give you a fighting chance of surviving. As for Space Marine books, I personally would avoid the Ultramarine series which was Graham McNeil if I remember correctly.
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Fideles posted:Although not committing heresy is not necessarily equal to "good" but it may give you a fighting chance of surviving. As for Space Marine books, I personally would avoid the Ultramarine series which was Graham McNeil if I remember correctly. Anything with Honsou in it is totally fine
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Sep 25, 2013 23:30
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Agentdark posted:Anything with Honsou in it is totally fine Ehhh pass. They were still pretty awful.
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Guy Haley just released a Space Marine Battle novel that I was thinking of picking up. Has anyone read it, or his Baneblade novel? What other stories, aside from Nemesis and the short from the Iron Warriors omnibus, can I read about Eversor assassins? Aside from a Greater Demon or maybe a dreadnaught they seem like the toughest things in the galaxy.
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Ego-bot posted:What other stories, aside from Nemesis and the short from the Iron Warriors omnibus, can I read about Eversor assassins? Aside from a Greater Demon or maybe a dreadnaught they seem like the toughest things in the galaxy. There's a thousand word short about an Eversor going after a traitor governor and is so short that you're better off just concocting your own tale based on what I've told you. It was called Army of One. The old Warhammer Monthly comics had a few stories with assassins in them. I think each temple minus the intelligence arm got one. But I can't for the life of me find info on the names or which issues they were in to narrow the search down for you. Sorry. Lead Psychiatry fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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Sep 26, 2013 02:21
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The Vindicare one is on 1d4chan. Would it be against forum copyright rules to link it? It's 8 pages.
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William Bear posted:The Vindicare one is on 1d4chan. Would it be against forum copyright rules to link it? It's 8 pages. Pretty sure if it's on 1d4chan it's publicly available.
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Does the Poe inspired Eversor poem count as an Eversor story?quote:The Raven
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There was also some Vindicaire action in the Krieg/Dark Angels/Alpha Legion/Chaos Cultists Forgeworld book. (Can't remember the name of the planet) But besides that, I'm drawing a blank here. 
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Ego-bot posted:Guy Haley just released a Space Marine Battle novel that I was thinking of picking up. Has anyone read it, or his Baneblade novel? Azran posted:There was also some Vindicaire action in the Krieg/Dark Angels/Alpha Legion/Chaos Cultists Forgeworld book. (Can't remember the name of the planet)
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I think I started reading Baneblade in a book store and I got super confused because the scale seemed way off. There was a bit where they were running through hallways in the Baneblade and they're big but I don't think they're like 'we have a Starbucks in here!' big.
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:I think I started reading Baneblade in a book store and I got super confused because the scale seemed way off. There was a bit where they were running through hallways in the Baneblade and they're big but I don't think they're like 'we have a Starbucks in here!' big. They're pretty big. They can be equipped to hunt Titans.
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Sep 26, 2013 16:52
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They're not all that big though. Corridors are probably not a thing.
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I can imagine there being a central passage, but it would probably be very short and extremely cramped.
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Sep 26, 2013 18:29
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A Baneblade is about 40 feet long and 20 feet tall, so when you realize that is roughly two stories in height, it's pretty easy to imagine passageways. The story explains that things are tight though, so if you've ever been on a WW2 submarine, I imagine that's the scale you're dealing with. There is a scene where an Ork gets into a Baneblade and winds up getting stuck in a passage because he's just too big to turn around.
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I would imagine a lot of that space would be dedicated to the machinery that, you know, moves it around. An M1 Abrams is around half that size (slightly more than half in length, slightly less than half in height) and it looks like its like sitting in stuffy cubicles.
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:I would imagine a lot of that space would be dedicated to the machinery that, you know, moves it around. An M1 Abrams is around half that size (slightly more than half in length, slightly less than half in height) and it looks like its like sitting in stuffy cubicles. That would be one quarter sized, then.
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Makes you wonder how they fit Space Marines in there back in the pre-Heresy days. Of course, component modules might have been significantly smaller back in those days due to better technology.
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Cream_Filling posted:Makes you wonder how they fit Space Marines in there back in the pre-Heresy days. Of course, component modules might have been significantly smaller back in those days due to better technology. Magnetic boots. Those space marines weren't so much cargo as extra armor.
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berzerkmonkey posted:A Baneblade is about 40 feet long and 20 feet tall, so when you realize that is roughly two stories in height, it's pretty easy to imagine passageways. The story explains that things are tight though, so if you've ever been on a WW2 submarine, I imagine that's the scale you're dealing with. There is a scene where an Ork gets into a Baneblade and winds up getting stuck in a passage because he's just too big to turn around.
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Sep 26, 2013 19:38
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There's a Baneblade cross section in one of the Imperial Armor books.
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Here ya go. 
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That is a lot bigger than 20' x 40', and seems to be way out of scale with the 40k scale minis. The Epic ones fit fine though.
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Arquinsiel posted:That is a lot bigger than 20' x 40', and seems to be way out of scale with the 40k scale minis. The Epic ones fit fine though. Eh, none of the 40k minis are particularly well scaled. You sure as hell can't fit more than a few marines in a Rhino.
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Yeah unless it is crewed by pygmy infant squats or something that's not 20 x 40. The most productive of derails.
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That's what squats are for. I don't care that they only sort of exist now.
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It was mentioned earlier in this thread that the Emperor didn't warn his Primarchs, except Magnus, about the existence of Chaos and the Ruinous Powers. How can that be if the Primarchs are all psykers? Psykers constantly feel daemons scratching at the door in their mind. How did the sanctioned psykers of the Great Crusade deal with them if they were not privvy to their nature?jng2058 posted:Here ya go.
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Arquinsiel posted:That is a lot bigger than 20' x 40', and seems to be way out of scale with the 40k scale minis. The Epic ones fit fine though. That is completely in scale with the GW 40K model: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3300449a_99120105051_2013Baneblade01Baneblade_873x627.jpg But for the main gun elevation, you can overlay the two images and they are almost an exact match.
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Eh... kind of. The Baneblade tank commander is a teeny tiny short man. The other IG stuff I have is a head taller than him. Even so, the guns on the cutout are smaller than on the mini, and the dude manning the pintle is really skinny compared to the mini too.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I'm currently reading Baneblade - it's alright, though it hops back and forth in time with the main character, and that always drives me crazy in a book. It starts off pretty cool with the consecration (that literally takes years) of a Baneblade on Mars. I'm about halfway through, and there hasn't been a ton of Baneblade action though - so far it is a lot of "This is how we do things on a Baneblade." It certainly isn't terrible though, and it does have some wily Blood Axes popping up all over. First book, actually. They sent a Vindicaire to kill the planetary governor, and the shot was absorbed by his refractor field. The assassin tried to escape, but got killed - that sends the people into a rage against the Imperium IIRC.
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Azran posted:First book, actually. They sent a Vindicaire to kill the planetary governor, and the shot was absorbed by his refractor field. The assassin tried to escape, but got killed - that sends the people into a rage against the Imperium IIRC.
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Azran posted:First book, actually. They sent a Vindicaire to kill the planetary governor, and the shot was absorbed by his refractor field. The assassin tried to escape, but got killed - that sends the people into a rage against the Imperium IIRC.
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Baron Bifford posted:
Yep, i think so. They use VERY few AIs, though most of the bigger machines do have them (machine spirits), baneblades included. But computers don't really exist IIRC, they're most human-brain powered instead. Most of the tanks are pretty well scaled, it's just that the people are disproportionately scaled and actually sculpted on scales quite a bit larger than some of the vehicles.
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