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SolidSnakesBandana posted:This pops up in (I think) the first episode of season 9: Bit harsh to label Paul Raines as a Bauer kill.
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If anyone dies after 24 hours of being in contact with Bauer, it's labeled as a Bauer kill.
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Jul 29, 2014 22:19
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Once again Edgar proving how cool he is.
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Jul 29, 2014 22:20
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:This pops up in (I think) the first episode of season 9: Lucky thing they have specific fields for each of the relations who have happened to appear on the show
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Jul 29, 2014 23:05
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Mebbe he wath jealouth, maybe Kieferth did thomething to him—who knowth?" the actor addth about Printhe Jr.
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Jul 29, 2014 23:27
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Now I kinda hope Kiefer shows up at Prinze's house and uppercuts him.
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Jul 29, 2014 23:39
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Gonz posted:Now I kinda hope Kiefer shows up at Prinze's house and uppercuts him. Keifer will appear everywhere Prinze does, but only for a second. He looks across the street and sees Kiefer. A bus passes by and he's gone. This happens everyday for the rest of Prinze's life.
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Jul 29, 2014 23:49
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Mister Kingdom posted:Keifer will appear everywhere Prinze does, but only for a second. He looks across the street and sees Kiefer. A bus passes by and he's gone. This happens everyday for the rest of Prinze's life. Being trapped in MirrorWorld has it's advantages, I suppose.
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Jul 29, 2014 23:51
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Kiefer was definitely wearing lifted boots in The Cowboy Way. Also....any of you goons old enough to remember the 90's recall Kiefer nearly hitting Charlie Sheen levels of depravity so let's be thankful (he certainly is) he got to kick rear end as Jack Bauer for nearly 10 years.
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Jul 29, 2014 23:57
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AKA Pseudonym posted:Lucky thing they have specific fields for each of the relations who have happened to appear on the show Except his granddaughters last name, because that was never revealed in the show.
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Jul 30, 2014 00:46
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Keyser S0ze posted:Kiefer was definitely wearing lifted boots in The Cowboy Way. Wasn't that basically how he ended up on TV? Back then it wasn't as cool to be on TV as it is today, but his movie career had kind of died out.
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Jul 30, 2014 00:49
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Except his granddaughters last name, because that was never revealed in the show. Wait, just above Paul Raines, is that somebody named Palpatine?  Did Jack kill the Emperor?
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TheAngryDrunk posted:Wasn't that basically how he ended up on TV? Back then it wasn't as cool to be on TV as it is today, but his movie career had kind of died out. He got tired of movies and went on the rodeo circuit for a while. He took the 24 job to pay the bills and figured it would never get past the front thirteen.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:This pops up in (I think) the first episode of season 9:
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Jul 30, 2014 01:34
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2house2fly posted:Do they expect me to believe the first person Jack is shown killing in the series is the first person he ever killed? He was a freaking psycho black ops guy for years, plus he at least killed Victor Drazen's doppelganger and family prior to the start of the series. Steaming mad about that inaccurate kill list that was on-screen for a split second. And the best picture they have is from a surveillance camera?
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Jul 30, 2014 01:44
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I especially love allllll of the Bauer kills that have no last name, because gently caress 'em
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Jul 30, 2014 02:06
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It includes Ryan Chappelle, too, which makes me sad. 
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Jul 30, 2014 02:10
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Season 6 was so bad. I loved 1-5, should I even bother with 7 or 8?
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a cop posted:Season 6 was so bad. I loved 1-5, should I even bother with 7 or 8? Yes and double yes.
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a cop posted:Season 6 was so bad. I loved 1-5, should I even bother with 7 or 8? The first four episodes of any 24 season are worth watch irrespective of the quality of the season as a whole.
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Jul 30, 2014 02:18
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7 and 8 are both huge steps up from season 6. They're a long way from perfect (season 7 ups the stakes way too frequently and season 8 has too much filler in the middle of the season) but they're worth sticking with for the big climaxes which I think are some of the best the show ever did.
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Jul 30, 2014 02:47
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Season 7 has by far the best silent clock in the entire series so you should watch it for that.
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Good to hear. 6 just felt off in every way. I was ready to bow out around ~episode 18 when the original crisis ended, unlike every other season. All the stuff with Jack's family was so lackluster.
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a cop posted:Good to hear. 6 just felt off in every way. I was ready to bow out around ~episode 18 when the original crisis ended, unlike every other season. All the stuff with Jack's family was so lackluster. It's one of the few times where the creators/Kiefer apologized for such a lackluster season and promised hey would improve it for season 7. They did. If you're on the fence I would definitely give the first episode a shot.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Season 7 has by far the best silent clock in the entire series so you should watch it for that. I can't decide which is more intense - a silent clock or a regular clock right after a big action sequence. Basically, gently caress that clock.
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Jul 30, 2014 03:17
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Season 7 has by far the best silent clock in the entire series so you should watch it for that. What's this? My brain pretty much switched off after Curtis died until Live Another Day, I remember the odd thing about 24 (Starbuck sucking, the cute girl from Jericho getting the West Wing hijacked in a brief moment of "Oh this is good") but I can't remember which season is which, one was in New York, and I think maybe Washington DC was a setting? And as for important deaths that late in the show's run, I got nothing.
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Jul 30, 2014 08:50
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There were two silent clocks: one when Jack shot Renee and you just hear her breathing, similar to the season two final silent clock. The other was for Bill. Both those clocks were pretty boring really, the best one was Teri because it was new.
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Jul 30, 2014 09:10
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Jack shot Renee!? Wasn't Renee the hot, eventual Female Jack that he slept with and got shot by a sniper post-sex? Did I imagine that?
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Regarding the earlier talk about Jack being no better than Tony due to the things he's done: That's something that doesn't get touched on enough by the show or fans of the show. If Jack felt justified in his flat-out execution of Nina, and his rage induced assault on the Drazens because he thought they'd killed Kim, how does Jack justify stopping Tony from taking his own revenge on Wilson? He can't, he's being utterly hypocritical, and you can tell that on some level Jack knows this when Tony flipped out on him at the end of season 7. Jack is not only a hypocrite, he's a walking storm of death and destruction -- not just to his enemies, but to his colleagues and loved ones, too. How many people does Jack come into contact with whose lives are destroyed and/or end up dead? Live Another Day is blatant, in-your-face proof of this. Jack admits that he's in London to stop the terrorist attack because of Audrey. Jack is selfish, but hides under a veneer of "doing things for the greater good", which he uses to justify all of the terrible things that happen to the people around him. And in the end, he can do nothing to save Audrey. Would she have died if Jack had never shown his face that day? Who knows. But Jack did appear, and Audrey did pay the ultimate price, just as Heller predicted in season 6. The truth is, Jack isn't a hero. He's a selfish, unstable and emotionally broken shell of his former self. He irrevocably changed after his wife was murdered, and now uses his imagined role as a superhuman agent of justice willing to sacrifice everything for the greater good as some kind of coping mechanism to deal with the fact that he couldn't save his wife. incredible bear posted:Jack shot Renee!? Wasn't Renee the hot, eventual Female Jack that he slept with and got shot by a sniper post-sex? Did I imagine that? Jack shoots and "kills" Renee when he, Tony and Emerson catch her, and Emerson wants Jack to prove he's trustworthy. Jack purposely just grazes her neck, and she survives.
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Jack has stopped a dozen nukes, wars, and the lives of several presidents. Overall he's a goddamn American hero. It's like yeah, Jefferson owned slaves, but we can ignore that.
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incredible bear posted:Jack shot Renee!? Wasn't Renee the hot, eventual Female Jack that he slept with and got shot by a sniper post-sex? Did I imagine that? You act surprised even though Jack has shot, tortured or choked out every single one of his "friends."
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Good point, even Kate got headbutted during her first encounter with Jack this season. So glad they didn't end up together in a dumb 24 move, apart from faking out on Heller, the writers really did restrain themselves from doing dumb poo poo that dragged down the series. The neck graze rings a bell now. As for Jack being a hypocrite, sure, but the last thing I'd want 24 to attempt is some Jack self-reflecting arc wherein he tries to actually right his wrongs. I can't see a way that'd work out well for the viewer.
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That also happened in season 7.
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He then has to bury her and the silent clock is as she disappears under the dirt. It was a good use of the clock as 'tension builder' rather then 'emphasizing sorrow'.
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Spalec posted:He then has to bury her and the silent clock is as she disappears under the dirt. It was a good use of the clock as 'tension builder' rather then 'emphasizing sorrow'. They did this when Mandy poisoned Palmer as well, except instead of breathing it's Palmer's heartbeat.
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incredible bear posted:Good point, even Kate got headbutted during her first encounter with Jack this season. He also knocked her out and gave her up to an arms dealer, who immediately woke her up and started torturing her. That was a pretty good plan, Jack.
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Jul 30, 2014 16:42
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pyromance posted:He also knocked her out and gave her up to an arms dealer, who immediately woke her up and started torturing her. That was a pretty good plan, Jack. That was great because Kate being tortured was actually the best case scenario. Jack was betting that they wouldn't just execute her immediately.
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Jul 30, 2014 16:48
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Basebf555 posted:That was great because Kate being tortured was actually the best case scenario. Jack was betting that they wouldn't just execute her immediately. Actually the best case scenario was them not having a drug to reverse the effects of the propofol like they did. You can see Jack's oh-crap face when they say they can wake her up.
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I thought Live Another Day handled Jack's "moral system" pretty much perfectly. We're allowed to cheer for Jack when he throws Margot out the window, but I don't necessarily think the show CONDONES Jack's tactics. At the very least, these past few seasons have done a good job of showing the costs of Jack Bauer's choices - on Jack Bauer.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I thought Live Another Day handled Jack's "moral system" pretty much perfectly. We're allowed to cheer for Jack when he throws Margot out the window, but I don't necessarily think the show CONDONES Jack's tactics. Meanwhile in the other seasons someone was tortured every 4 episodes. Although I got tired of the sermons they kept doing every time Adrian Cross was on screen about how much they clearly couldn't stand Julian Assange.
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