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yeah there are some big gaps in the musical, like his career between the war and secretary of treasury or why he had a falling out with madison
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Yinlock posted:visiting any of the founding fathers wouldbe a lesson in genocide and/or rape john adams was alright, he was crappy paranoid president though. as were a bunch of the lesser ones like gouverneur morris were decent too. Jefferson was giant sack of a poo poo on many different levels, washington too but on slightly lesser scale(he wasnt a rapist as far as i know) Ze Pollack posted:yeah uh they skip most of what made Hamilton awful in the musical that too. hamilton was a interesting rear end in a top hat to say the least but yeah, he was a authoritarian rear end in a top hat to say the least. Anime Schoolgirl posted:a lesson in being the genuinely good guy that everyone else hates yeah paine was awesome. i find it funny how reactionary shitbags like beg drag him around as a magical proponent of Hard right Christianity conservatism. when he was basically a proto socialist and a atheist who hated these people with a passion. its sorta like how the GOP tries to Co-opt MLKjr for their racist bullshit. gently caress reactionaries.
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Ze Pollack posted:yeah uh they skip most of what made Hamilton awful in the musical
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PetraCore posted:Yeah I'm not arguing Hamilton should have been President, lmao. I'm just saying that even an rear end in a top hat like him can be framed as preferable to some of the other poo poo that was going on at the time. He was a goddamn mess. youll find liberals constantly idolize poo poo people
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Want to see the series based around the timeline wherein a teenage cheerleader from the future betrays George Washington and becomes the ruler of America. Probably on Adult Swim.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/muhmentions/status/992409496646508549?s=21 I should get my law degree out of hock and offer to help him with lawyer stuff
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♫ It's been 200 years since Karl Marx made his move He's back, he's ready, Coming Soon♫
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Crowsbeak posted:I have heard it claimed that the clause about no foreign born presidents was made with him and Hamilton in mind. the grandfather clause ("...at the time this Constitution is adopted") would have made them eligible
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Dapper_Swindler posted:john adams was alright, he was crappy paranoid president though. as were a bunch of the lesser ones like gouverneur morris were decent too. Jefferson was giant sack of a poo poo on many different levels, washington too but on slightly lesser scale(he wasnt a rapist as far as i know)
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NorgLyle posted:Washington is one of the perfect examples of the old 'compared to other people of his time' argument that gets trotted out whenever someone slightly educated nerds like is criticized for owning slaves, hating Jews or whatever. Compared to some of the other colossal assholes of the Founding Fathers, Washington seems like a pretty normal dude and is one of the ones who, had he been born in 1932 instead of 1732 probably wouldn't be posting on Freep. Washington's lack of ambition was a pretty good thing for America too, myriad faults aside
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah paine was awesome. i find it funny how reactionary shitbags like beg drag him around as a magical proponent of Hard right Christianity conservatism. when he was basically a proto socialist and a atheist who hated these people with a passion. its sorta like how the GOP tries to Co-opt MLKjr for their racist bullshit. gently caress reactionaries. I read Common Sense when I was 20 or so and it blew my loving mind that someone like Paine was running around during the founding of America and instead of using his excellent ideas, we made the Constitution.
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NorgLyle posted:Washington is one of the perfect examples of the old 'compared to other people of his time' argument that gets trotted out whenever someone slightly educated nerds like is criticized for owning slaves, hating Jews or whatever. Compared to some of the other colossal assholes of the Founding Fathers, Washington seems like a pretty normal dude and is one of the ones who, had he been born in 1932 instead of 1732 probably wouldn't be posting on Freep. I like washington despite the obvious stuff. he is an interesting guy and i like how he slowly matures his views. like when he is young he just wants to be a commisioned officer and respect but then he sees first hand how hosed up and worthless it is and he slowly becomes an actual leader. I like a bunch of founding fathers, they are interesting people. that being said the veneration poo poo bad and dumb. alot of my personal heroes(teddy and fdr) were flawed hosed up people but they are were complex figures and should be taught as such. StashAugustine posted:Washington's lack of ambition was a pretty good thing for America too, myriad faults aside yeah, he just wanted to do his job and then go home.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:reminder that aa got tricked into stuffing a banana up his butt and drizzling hot fudge on his micro peen on webcam it was hot oil.
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StashAugustine posted:Washington's lack of ambition was a pretty good thing for America too, myriad faults aside It's interesting how so many presidents took after Washington's model for the longest time. The presidency was a solemn burden to be endured until TR came along and made it a big old dick-swinging media spectacle.
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shiksa posted:seize the means-testing of production  Need a :gonkvince: for this tbh
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Dapper_Swindler posted:alot of my personal heroes(teddy and fdr) were flawed hosed up people but they are were complex figures and should be taught as such.
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Krankenstyle posted:ehh imo ana baptis is correct there. centrists destroy everything im no tankie but calling marxist-leninists centrists who serve capital is uh, um. the french communist party hosed up by accepting an early election instead of continuing the protests yeah but thats not because they were MLs
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NorgLyle posted:Anyone who wouldn't be okay with dynamiting more stolen land and replacing Jefferson with FDR is someone who hasn't read enough history. washington and teddy were both genuinely worse than jefferson
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:washington and teddy were both genuinely worse than jefferson I might give you Teddy, but it's hard to be worse than someone responsible for one of the most well known acts of genocide on Native Americans.
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MizPiz posted:I might give you Teddy, but it's hard to be worse than someone responsible for one of the most well known acts of genocide on Native Americans. jefferson talked about indian removal a bit and was certainly a huge rear end in a top hat to the indians (after decades of claiming they were all Noble and Equal to the White Man, another one of his hypocrisies), but washington was literally nicknamed "Town Destroyer" by the Seneca and directly lead massacres and poo poo, and when president actually sent the army out to genocide while President, something iirc jefferson never really did. are you thinking of Jackson? basically every 18th/19th century president was a huge monster when it came to native americans, trying to compare them on that is going to be a bad time. but Jackson was definitely the worst.
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Montreal Gazette now has a followup article on Zeiger based on Unicorn Riot's data harvesting. Thinking this also might be setting this guy up for the government to make an example out of him. https://twitter.com/mtlgazette/status/992426280577654785 Either way, Montreal seems like a bad place to get outed as a Nazi. The anarchists go much harder there than other North American cities. I remember taking the bus into the city and seeing an anarchist squat in plain view on the upper floor of an abandoned warehouse; red and black flag flying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTRlg1npEmk BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 22:03 on May 5, 2018 |
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NorgLyle posted:Anyone who wouldn't be okay with dynamiting more stolen land and replacing Jefferson with FDR is someone who hasn't read enough history.  Sheng-Ji Yang posted:jefferson talked about indian removal a bit and was certainly a huge rear end in a top hat to the indians (after decades of claiming they were all Noble and Equal to the White Man, another one of his hypocrisies), but washington was literally nicknamed "Town Destroyer" by the Seneca and directly lead massacres and poo poo, and when president actually sent the army out to genocide while President, something iirc jefferson never really did. sulivan was pretty loving awful too. he went on giant death march through PA and basically killed off or displaced every tribe. i mean gently caress alot of the american revoltion was about killing or displacing the native americans because the mean old british empire said they couldnt colonize past a certain point. also my county would be the home to the Amish if they weren't repeatedly slaughtered by native american parties(they lived on the land before they got hosed by walking purchase and were understandably pissed) it scared the Amish so much they moved to Lancaster.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Montreal Gazette now has a followup article on Zeiger based on Unicorn Riot's data harvesting. Thinking this also might be setting this guy up for the government to make an example out of him. i am amused about how nilistic they are, even for nazis. like they mostly sound like incels but about race instead of women(well women too but you know) most of the chats are just jerking off about spree shooting.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:jefferson talked about indian removal a bit and was certainly a huge rear end in a top hat to the indians (after decades of claiming they were all Noble and Equal to the White Man, another one of his hypocrisies), but washington was literally nicknamed "Town Destroyer" by the Seneca and directly lead massacres and poo poo, and when president actually sent the army out to genocide while President, something iirc jefferson never really did. Wasn't "Town Destroyer" originally Washington's grandfather John Washington? Or did he pick it up after the colonials murdered the poo poo out of all of the Natives in Upstate New York?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i am amused about how nilistic they are, even for nazis. like they mostly sound like incels but about race instead of women(well women too but you know) most of the chats are just jerking off about spree shooting. The life destroying 4chan mindset, if you actually look at the Unicorn Riot dumps there a good amount of anime depressive poo poo too
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Zeroisanumber posted:Wasn't "Town Destroyer" originally Washington's grandfather John Washington? Or did he pick it up after the colonials murdered the poo poo out of all of the Natives in Upstate New York? wikipedias got the story quote:Washington was given the name in 1753 by the Seneca leader Tanacharison (the "Half-King").
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:wikipedias got the story TBF, "Conotocaurious" is a pretty badass nickname.
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