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That is great flavor text considering the focus of the card.Toshimo posted:Yeah, there's no way these durdle-turtle garbage build-arounds (Lattice, Revenant, Dub Season) hold any real value after they get reprints. They aren't even worth playing at anything but the most kitchen tabliest games. I mean, not only are you wrong and seeing things through only the eyes of your cEDH table which is niche, you are advocating for not throwing any reprints in the set because they are going to drop in value. What, pray tell, is the point of reprinting cards? Of course the value is going to drop; that is the point.
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mandatory lesbian posted:that is incredibly scummy but also hilarious sooooo Wasting the judge's time is definitely scummy but I can dig the mind games.
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May 25, 2018 15:56
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Shadow225 posted:you are advocating for not throwing any reprints in the set because they are going to drop in value. Not even remotely close to what I said.
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May 25, 2018 16:03
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Playing Pithing Needle effects at an LGS is so risky. I've seen a spectator say, "That doesn't work" at least twice because they think they're being helpful.
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May 25, 2018 16:05
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mandatory lesbian posted:that is incredibly scummy but also hilarious sooooo This is basically all of LSV's stories.
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May 25, 2018 16:09
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LifeLynx posted:Playing Pithing Needle effects at an LGS is so risky. I've seen a spectator say, "That doesn't work" at least twice because they think they're being helpful. my favorite part of playing pithing needle at my lgs is when they let it resolve and I ask "are you sure" repeatedly before sighing and just telling them to crack their fetchland
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May 25, 2018 16:11
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Toshimo posted:Not even remotely close to what I said. quote:Yeah, there's no way these durdle-turtle garbage build-arounds (Lattice, Revenant, Dub Season) hold any real value after they get reprints. basically in response to The Shortest Path posted:Another $25-30 reprint! It just keeps getting better and better. So what is the point in casting the reprint of value cards in a negative light?
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May 25, 2018 16:15
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They've done something interesting with, of all things, the Collectors Numbers of this set.   It looks like they're split into three groups: partner cards, other new cards, reprints.
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May 25, 2018 16:19
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little munchkin posted:my favorite part of playing pithing needle at my lgs is when they let it resolve and I ask "are you sure" repeatedly before sighing and just telling them to crack their fetchland For stuff like that I tell them what they should have done after the game. Feelbads stick in the memory better and make for better learning experiences. (That's how I learned, at least.)
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May 25, 2018 16:20
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Elyv posted:They've done something interesting with, of all things, the Collectors Numbers of this set. Makes it harder to suss out the missing rare lands or thoughtseize reprints of each new set
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May 25, 2018 16:23
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Elyv posted:They've done something interesting with, of all things, the Collectors Numbers of this set. dont people always guess reprinted cards from the collector numbers, this is actually a pretty good way to avoid that watch it never come up again
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May 25, 2018 16:26
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A Moose posted:You can add blue to play the pirate that tutors for equipment, and the vampire Forerunner. Shouldn't be that hard to draw the combo. Blue also allows you to play Negates to protect it if mana fixing were better on arena i would absolutely do this
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May 25, 2018 16:31
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little munchkin posted:my favorite part of playing pithing needle at my lgs is when they let it resolve and I ask "are you sure" repeatedly before sighing and just telling them to crack their fetchland I like the play pattern: 1. Meddling Mage, naming lightning bolt [bad shortcutting, but legal] 2. In response, I bolt your face 1. Okay, in that case, naming Path to Exile [again, legal since your opponent rewound you to MM on the stack] 2. That's not fair, I should be able to 'get' you!
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May 25, 2018 16:33
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Anyone going to the teams GP in Washington DC?
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May 25, 2018 16:33
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Good news everyone! Benthic Giant, Pacifism, and Fumble mean I can pull of my absolute favorite corner play of all time! It's called putting pacifism on my opponents benthic giant
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May 25, 2018 16:39
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Elyv posted:They've done something interesting with, of all things, the Collectors Numbers of this set. The reprints being separate isn't new for supplemental sets. The partners being together might be to do with the collation I guess?
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May 25, 2018 16:58
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Matsuri posted:For stuff like that I tell them what they should have done after the game. Feelbads stick in the memory better and make for better learning experiences. (That's how I learned, at least.) I'll do that for most stuff but needle (or arbiter) on a fetchland just stops the game from being played. I just want to jam some cards and have fun. My opponent can get good on their own time. I did get someone with pithing needle at an SCG classic though. Scapeshift opponent who was already tilted after losing game one to a blood moon. He tried to crack his foothills in response to me naming it, I told him not so fast and he immediately started packing up his stuff. Turn one win baby.
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May 25, 2018 17:00
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Shadow225 posted:basically in response to He's saying that it's good they're getting reprinted because it deflates their ballooned up prices, ya goofball.
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May 25, 2018 17:00
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Barry Shitpeas posted:The reprints being separate isn't new for supplemental sets. The partners being together might be to do with the collation I guess? Oh you're right, I missed it in CN2 and whenever else they've done it.
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May 25, 2018 17:06
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Top 10 E-sport. https://twitter.com/efropoker/status/999731652376125440?s=19
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May 25, 2018 17:25
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I love the goblin swooning over him.
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May 25, 2018 17:28
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To be fair, esports in general just don't pay much of anything.
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May 25, 2018 17:49
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Star Man posted:To be fair, esports in general just don't pay much of anything. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44209061
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May 25, 2018 17:57
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You still have to win to get paid anything, unlike a professional sports league where you get paid no matter how bad your team's year was.
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May 25, 2018 18:11
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 Did we talk about this cool cat yet? Because it seems insane in a 2hg format.
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May 25, 2018 18:15
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:
He's a reprint and while searching up to 3 plains to hand early is certainly good value, it's not game-breaking.
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May 25, 2018 18:17
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I wish Oreskos Explorer was a land called Squadron Rock.
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Star Man posted:You still have to win to get paid anything, unlike a professional sports league where you get paid no matter how bad your team's year was. back when I followed some esports a couple years back, the teams in the big games(LoL, Dota, etc) were getting salaries, although I don't know how much can't speak to what's happened since
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May 25, 2018 18:25
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Toshimo posted:He's a reprint and while searching up to 3 plains to hand early is certainly good value, it's not game-breaking. It's a 2 drop that helps you curve out, solves mana screw on it's own, and is fine later unless you're flooding hard. It seems very strong to me. I didn't realize it was a reprint, but it's yet one more that was extremely well chosen for this set.
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Elyv posted:back when I followed some esports a couple years back, the teams in the big games(LoL, Dota, etc) were getting salaries, although I don't know how much There are people whgo get paid for appearance fees, sponsorships, and streaming services, but you don't get poo poo if you can't place. You don't get anything but the airfare to a Pro Tour if you bomb. Meanwhile, a NASCAR driver that finishes dead last still gets paid and a soccer player in a club that finished in a season low enough to get relegated still gets paid.
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May 25, 2018 18:37
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Star Man posted:To be fair, esports in general just don't pay much of anything. There is a shitload of money in esports my man. If you can sucessfully market your game as an esport, then financing tournaments is a really effective form of marketing. Other advertisers are also starting to figure out how market to the fans as a demographic. Star Man posted:You still have to win to get paid anything, unlike a professional sports league where you get paid no matter how bad your team's year was. Most pro teams pay a guaranteed salary in exchange for some percentage of prize money. Some esports it's just a living wage and you really need that prize money to make it, but there's a few like overwatch and league where the competitive scene is heavily financed by the publisher and everyone gets paid good. Also some times your sponsor keeps 100% of the prize money, because esports is an unregulated wild west and nerdy 17 year-olds are probably good targets to scam.
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Star Man posted:There are people whgo get paid for appearance fees, sponsorships, and streaming services, but you don't get poo poo if you can't place. You don't get anything but the airfare to a Pro Tour if you bomb. Meanwhile, a NASCAR driver that finishes dead last still gets paid and a soccer player in a club that finished in a season low enough to get relegated still gets paid. Yeah and a golfer that doesn't place doesn't get paid either. So what. Some sports have agents and contracts and salaries and others don't. It's an unhelpful point to make. Discussing whether hasbro is actually serious about promoting magic as a top tier esport or whatever is something we can actually discuss. I think it's all a joke, but you can tell they're trying, what with the $1 million pro tour weekend for example.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Yeah and a golfer that doesn't place doesn't get paid either. So what. Some sports have agents and contracts and salaries and others don't. It's an unhelpful point to make. Golf is probably not a great example because of how much endorsement deals for gear cost since rich folk who play golf use the same equipment pros use. The simple answer is that WOTC isn't going to have Fortnite level prize support because MTG is niche as gently caress compared to Fortnite.
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May 25, 2018 19:41
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Angry Grimace posted:Golf is probably not a great example because of how much endorsement deals for gear cost since rich folk who play golf use the same equipment pros use. Though it will probably outlast Fortnite.
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Star Man posted:Though it will probably outlast Fortnite. hasbro's q4 revenue for gaming as a whole was was only $46m more than fortnite's april revenue. mtg is a big portion of that but not all of it. born on a buy you fucked around with this message at 20:03 on May 25, 2018 |
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Star Man posted:Though it will probably outlast Fortnite. I mean, cockroaches outlasted the Northern White Rhino, too.  
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Magic is better than any video game but it's literally impossible to make coverage engaging on virtually any level so it's doomed to be low-reward
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This is notably more than all esports paid in 2017 combined, and hasn't actually been paid out yet or if it's just hot air.
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sit on my Facebook posted:Magic is better than any video game but it's literally impossible to make coverage engaging on virtually any level so it's doomed to be low-reward Watching coverage of Magic in any way usually means you need to know every single relevant card for it to be even sort of engaging. I don't know if that's true of eSports though, because I find watching other people play video games to be dull as dishwater.
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Angry Grimace posted:Watching coverage of Magic in any way usually means you need to know every single relevant card for it to be even sort of engaging. I don't know if that's true of eSports though, because I find watching other people play video games to be dull as dishwater. Not even that, it means you need to be able to READ every card in play in order to even know what's going on. Half the time when I watch Magic coverage, I can't even tell what loving card is which most of the time, which makes for a pretty boring experience. But I think that's just any eSports that requires base knowledge of the game in question in general. poo poo like Fortnite is easy to understand: you shoot things, they die. If the dude you're rooting for is the last one alive, cool. That's pretty much it and why it appeals to a much broader audience (that, and FPS games are FAR more mainstream than even the most mainstream card game with an encyclopedia's worth of esoteric rules).
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