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Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Spanish Manlove posted:

What boost are you using and is it the 2x12 or 1x12?

1x12. I usually settle on Gain around 40-65, and Metal Zone boost around 25-40. I've tried other boosts, but it doesn't change anything that I like/dislike about it much, it's just a different tone, really.

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Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Drunk Driver Dad posted:

1x12. I usually settle on Gain around 40-65, and Metal Zone boost around 25-40. I've tried other boosts, but it doesn't change anything that I like/dislike about it much, it's just a different tone, really.

What about the tubescreamer set to 0 drive but max volume and tone around noon, and using the brown channel?

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

Tales from the dumpster!


Neck should glue back in fine missing one fret and a tuner and a saddle but I've got spares.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Spanish Manlove posted:

What about the tubescreamer set to 0 drive but max volume and tone around noon, and using the brown channel?

Yeah even outside of the Katana Ive heard from a bunch of places that metal guitarists use a tube screamer's shaping like this to tighten up tone on high gain distortion.

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Man I wanted to side-eye this idea but I can kinda see how that could be with the reduced string tension.

Stringent posted:

Jim Campilongo plays a 59 top loader

These are reassuring if I decide to get any of the wild color Affinities then.

mango sentinel fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Mar 30, 2021

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

mango sentinel posted:

Do you still get the same twang out of a top load Tele?

I could be wrong but I feel like the difference is a lot more noticeable acoustically when just playing unplugged. Through all my gear it definitely still sounds like a tele, it is noticeably way twangier than my other guitars including the ones that are also single coil(like my strat bridge does not really compare even though they should be pretty similar on paper)

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

former glory posted:

lol, very true and plus I don't have a dreadnaut so it would definitely bring a lot to the table vs. my cutaway.

My wife shut the door on any further doubt tonight when she said the idea of one of my kids learning to play on one I made would just be so cool. That's motivation enough to jump out of my comfort zone.

You are going to need a LOT of clamps. Watch basically any acoustic build YouTube video.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Thumposaurus posted:

Tales from the dumpster!


Neck should glue back in fine missing one fret and a tuner and a saddle but I've got spares.

These posts are my favorite guitar news

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Metal guys use tubescreamers because they cut bass and the trick to a good high gain distortion is not letting the bass get flubby.

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


I use a TS9 mini with no gain and tone at noon into an orange amp with maxed out gain and it sounds good as hell.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

This Halloween-themed Schecter Avenger 7-string showed up on a buy/sell facebook group yesterday, and I decided it was too fun not to buy. The dude is shipping it today (at least hopefully!), so I'm hoping to get it by the weekend.





It's part of a small Halloween run for Drum City Guitarland, some little shop in Colorado that does a different small custom run of Halloween guitars every year.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


a foolish pianist posted:

This Halloween-themed Schecter Avenger 7-string showed up on a buy/sell facebook group yesterday, and I decided it was too fun not to buy. The dude is shipping it today (at least hopefully!), so I'm hoping to get it by the weekend.





It's part of a small Halloween run for Drum City Guitarland, some little shop in Colorado that does a different small custom run of Halloween guitars every year.

This owns. Drum city is a great shop too.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

is there any more proactive advice for learning songs by ear beyond "try it and don't stop until it starts to work"?

running into my favorite songs not being on UG, or only having cruddy chord sheets available. lookin' at you, every modern baseball tab ever

beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop

landgrabber posted:

is there any more proactive advice for learning songs by ear beyond "try it and don't stop until it starts to work"?
study theory and apply it to the songs you're learning. do an ear training course too

Robot Arms
Sep 19, 2008

R!
I've gotten so much better at learning songs by ear since learning a bit about keys and chords.

I usually start by finding the bass notes along the E and A strings, which helps me find the key. Once you know the key, it's easy to figure out which chord you are hearing, and whether it's a major or minor chord, whether you need to add a 7th, etc. If it doesn't sound right, move the chord around, try different shapes, etc.

beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop
Regarding ear training, the following type of excersize is pretty helpful:

Play the following notes, in the key of C, ascending:
CDCECFCGCACBCC (octave up)
Then descending:
CBCACGCFCECDCC (octave down)

This will familiarize you with all of the intervals in a given key realitve to the root. Repeat with all of the notes in the scale. For example, starting on the second note of C major:
ascending: DEDFDGDADBDCDD (octave up)
descending: DCDBDADGDFDEDD (octave down)

With enough practice, you'll able to recognize any of these leaps purely by their sound, instantly.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Spanish Manlove posted:

What about the tubescreamer set to 0 drive but max volume and tone around noon, and using the brown channel?

What do you mean? Like activating the tubescreamer, but just having it down as low as it'll go and using my normal gain knob to get my distortion?

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Drunk Driver Dad posted:

What do you mean? Like activating the tubescreamer, but just having it down as low as it'll go and using my normal gain knob to get my distortion?

Kinda.

It's sometimes referred to as a "boost" setting for the TS pedals where it doesn't inherently add distortion. What it does is makes the signal more powerful which will cause more distortion in the amp thanks to how clipping works. So you put the volume up all the way but put the drive down all the way which increases the power without causing some adverse effects. Try this with the gain all the way up to hear what happens, it's sometimes good but usually too "sizzly" as you'll get a lot more distortion in the high end too. Effectively you can do the same thing with just a 10 band eq in front of the amp with the mid sliders all the way up and volume slider all the way up, which is what slayer did in front of their jcm800s. But most people just use a ts because it's the tried and true method to tighten up a high gain amp.

Guitar volume max, amp distortion to taste, but TS set to 0 and 10 on gain and volume.

Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Mar 31, 2021

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Spanish Manlove posted:

Kinda.

It's sometimes referred to as a "boost" setting for the TS pedals where it doesn't inherently add distortion. What it does is makes the signal more powerful which will cause more distortion in the amp thanks to how clipping works. So you put the volume up all the way but put the drive down all the way which increases the power without causing some adverse effects. Try this with the gain all the way up to hear what happens, it's sometimes good but usually too "sizzly" as you'll get a lot more distortion in the high end too. Effectively you can do the same thing with just a 10 band eq in front of the amp with the mid sliders all the way up and volume slider all the way up, which is what slayer did in front of their jcm800s. But most people just use a ts because it's the tried and true method to tighten up a high gain amp.

Guitar volume max, amp distortion to taste, but TS set to 0 and 10 on gain and volume.

Wouldn't a boss eq pedal with the level boost work for this? Or is there something special about the tube screamer?

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
Can anyone tell me how much it costs to have your nut filed properly? I've got two guitars where (I think) the nuts are cut too shallow and I'm not confident enough to drop money on nut files of my own.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

If you want to take a crack at it yourself just get one of these sets.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0846ZZ8Z2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_BKEM1MDNBMTMDT83XRV4

You should be able to find one at any hardware store.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I got one of those from my local menards, it was like $3 and did a good job making my bridge slots deeper

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Nuts are cheap too so the stakes are low.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


mango sentinel posted:

Can anyone tell me how much it costs to have your nut filed properly? I've got two guitars where (I think) the nuts are cut too shallow and I'm not confident enough to drop money on nut files of my own.

Count on 20-40 bucks apiece depending on how much work needs to be done. Nut slots should only be a hair over half the diameter of the string, so unless they're popping out of their slots they're probably ok. I generally want my nut slots as shallow as I can get them without the strings moving around. Shallower slots are much less prone to creaking and strings binding up in the slots. The VAST majority of factory nuts are both too tall and cut too deep.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
Too tall is what I'm talking about. Fretting cowboys chords are too sharp no matter how delicate I press.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


mango sentinel posted:

Too tall is what I'm talking about. Fretting cowboys chords are too sharp no matter how delicate I press.

depending on how the nut is shaped you can just pop it off and carefully remove some material from the underside of the saddle. Just tape down some sandpaper and do opposite circles until it's the right height. About as straightforward as nut work gets.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

I've only popped two nuts but in both cases it was so much easier than I thought it was going to be. It's the string tension holding them in place it seems like.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


Sweaty IT Nerd posted:

I've only popped two nuts but in both cases it was so much easier than I thought it was going to be. It's the string tension holding them in place it seems like.

A properly installed nut will only be held in place by the tiniest possible dot of glue because exactly as you said- the string tension keeps the nut from going anywhere. You only need that teeny dab of glue to keep it from falling off when you take all the strings off. a gentle tap should be enough to pop em loose when done correctly.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

If it's never been taken off it can help to run a razor or xacto knife down either edge at the fretboard and headstock in case it was finished after the nut was installed so you don't chip the finish.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice
GUITAR MEGATHREAD: I've only popped two nuts

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.
Just tried restringing my nylon-string for the first time and any minute now I expect to hear a comical *sproing* noise and see all the strings fly across the room. Turns out us steel-string-havers are spoiled as hell.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
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I want this so bad but I have no money for this sort of buffoonery.


https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/msg/d/woodland-hills-rare-epiphone-demon-fx/7294084645.html

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

That components list is funny.

Body

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
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Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
Hey it's me, the moron who took his bass apart to paint it, put it back together with new strings and all of a sudden had a nasty ground buzz. So this absolutely dummy took the whole thing apart, rewired the grounds, spent an hour on google, ordered a prewired harness, wired it back up and, as he was putting the strings back on went

"Oh poo poo, I bet it's just that these new tapewound strings don't transfer my body to the bridge."

Five seconds of google later and I have a world of people complaining about it.

Pondex
Jul 8, 2014

Huxley posted:

Hey it's me, the moron who took his bass apart to paint it, put it back together with new strings and all of a sudden had a nasty ground buzz. So this absolutely dummy took the whole thing apart, rewired the grounds, spent an hour on google, ordered a prewired harness, wired it back up and, as he was putting the strings back on went

"Oh poo poo, I bet it's just that these new tapewound strings don't transfer my body to the bridge."

Five seconds of google later and I have a world of people complaining about it.

That's what you get for defecting. Shoulda stuck to guitar.

former glory
Jul 11, 2011

:goonsay: It's always the last thing you check!

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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former glory posted:

:goonsay: It's always the last thing you check!

if you found the problem why would you keep checking?

or is that :thejoke:?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Fierce Brosnan posted:

Ah cool, so they're just easily replaced then. I still don't think you can assume that more expensive = better quality.

No, that’s reductive.

One thing you have to keep in mind is history- in today’s post-internet world buying a no-name pedal from a seller on AliExpress is trivial. Finding reviews and teardowns and forum posts and upgrade guides about your pedal is trivial.

But now put yourself in 2005, or 1995, or 1985, or 1975. How the hell are you going to find, or even trust a pedal like that? Sure, you can probably find cheap no-name pedals at your local store no sweat, but they’re probably not the same pedal that your buddy found in a shop on tour three states away. And it’s not like there are Reddit posts to tell you about all the times that pedal’s caught fire or whatever.

BOSS is basically the Fender of pedal manufacturers. It’s not the absolute best or priciest, it’s certainly not “boutique” or rare, but it’s far from the worst, and it’s a standard of (x) quality for (x) money that has been around for decades and everybody can point to it as a standard. And to an extent, that “standardness” and ubiquity makes it the best for lots of users, particularly those that tour or those that need a consistent platform for modding or whatever.

A Harley Benton or a Firefly or a guitar made by a boutique luthier are risks. You have to do research, look at reviews, etc. But “standard Fender strat/tele”— there should be zero confusion there. If you’ve played long enough you should know exactly what you’re getting on the tin. You expect to be able to walk into a Guitar Center and grab one off the wall and make it perform like a standard Fender strat/tele, and if it doesn’t then there’s a big problem somewhere.

Like, sure, a big part of that value is replaceability. But the benefit of a ubiquitous, consistent level of performance and quality goes way beyond that. It’s what teachers and players are going to recommend to people looking for a pedal. It’ll become the standard for a genre and magazines and interviews with pros will mention it. Ibanez isn’t really known as a pedal manufacturer, but their Tube Screamer is still considered key to several genres because it became beloved and ubiquitous (and then cloned like eleventy billion times) at a certain point in history.


I love them. I’m so glad that manufacturers have figured out that nobody wants bullshit rootsy finishes on their guitars.

I don’t want to look like Marcus Mumford or any of his Sons.

Get outta here with that tobacco sunburst poo poo.

I want hollowbodies in neon heavy metal highlighter colors. I want a parlor acoustic that looks like it belongs in a Lil Nas X video.

mango sentinel posted:

These are reassuring if I decide to get any of the wild color Affinities then.

wait, are there wilder colors for the Affinities now? I still need to get my hands on a competition orange tele body :ohdear:

Edit: nope, looks like the same colors.

Interesting thing I noticed tho- Squier doesn’t seem to be offering any “regular” Precision Basses anymore. They’ve got one Classic Vibe 70s model, a 50s model with the single coil, and then literally everything else they have on offer is a PJ.

Have the PJs been outselling everything else by that much of a margin? On the J-Bass side, there’s very little change, in fact there’s like 4 times as many Squier Jazz Basses on Fender’s site (and active Jazz basses and so on) as P-Basses right now.

I wonder how much of it is the internet. For all that bass people and studio people swear that the P-Bass is the ubiquitous studio tool, and the J Bass is its slightly less esteemed sibling, I remember reading early on that the J-Bass’s thinner neck would be much easier to transition to from guitar.

I wonder how many other aspiring bass players had the same experience, and if that meaningfully drove the market.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Apr 2, 2021

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
I'm not sure how much this has to do with it, but the the biggest YouTube bass channels (Scott, Adam Neely, Bass Buzz) all primarily film with Js.

I can understand why the into standard is the PJ, though. If you've got some hours in on the bass, the P neck takes about a half hour to go from feeling odd to feeling right, just sitting in the store. But when you are trying to sell a bass to a true newcomer, they won't put a half hour in to adjust, they just go "bleh, nope."

And as much as the ideal "bassists bass" it's the one-knob P, you are just going to have an easier time selling PJs to people afraid of committing themselves down one path or the other. If they get serious they will get eventually figure out a PJ is really just a P at heart and then go upgrade down that line, but the goal is to get them out of the store with that first instrument and worry about upgrade paths in other places on the lineup.

E, plus I think "P bass equals fat neck" is a thing worth committing to, and putting J necks on true Ps just in the affinity lineup would cause more confusion than it's worth, when PJ setups exist. It just solves the problems more cleanly.

Huxley fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Apr 2, 2021

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Huxley posted:

I'm not sure how much this has to do with it, but the the biggest YouTube bass channels (Scott, Adam Neely, Bass Buzz) all primarily film with Js.

I can understand why the into standard is the PJ, though. If you've got some hours in on the bass, the P neck takes about a half hour to go from feeling odd to feeling right, just sitting in the store. But when you are trying to sell a bass to a true newcomer, they won't put a half hour in to adjust, they just go "bleh, nope."

And as much as the ideal "bassists bass" it's the one-knob P, you are just going to have an easier time selling PJs to people afraid of committing themselves down one path or the other. If they get serious they will get eventually figure out a PJ is really just a P at heart and then go upgrade down that line, but the goal is to get them out of the store with that first instrument and worry about upgrade paths in other places on the lineup.

Yeah, I definitely bought a Squier PJ Jaguar bass as my first bass all those years ago because it had “the thin neck of a J Bass, which you want as a guitarist” and “the versatility of All The Tones! One Bass to Rule Them All” which is 100% not how bass tone works.

I was initially drawn to J Bass as a kid because that’s what Geddy Lee played. And also Carlos Dengler from Interpol, and I desperately wanted my basslines to sound like Interpol when I was an angsty teen.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Apr 2, 2021

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