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Sell your soul to ze Germans, who still equip cars mit proper transmissions, ja?
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I always figured a car salesman would be happy to deal with someone who knows what they want and what it's worth since it'd be an easy transaction to boost their numbers and get the base sale commission. What I hadn't realized was that car salesman aren't just scumfuck pieces of poo poo, they're also lazy and stupid. And after daily driving a manual in traffic, gently caress that bring on the automatic next purchase
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Jan 24, 2019 18:03
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Wheeee posted:And after daily driving a manual in traffic, gently caress that bring on the automatic next purchase You're addressing the wrong problem here. The answer isn't gently caress manual, it's gently caress whatever is causing you to have to sit in traffic.
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Jan 24, 2019 18:05
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Bajaha posted:You're addressing the wrong problem here. The answer isn't gently caress manual, it's gently caress whatever is causing you to have to sit in traffic. Yeah gently caress cars
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Jan 24, 2019 18:07
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pointsofdata posted:Yeah gently caress cars gently caress everyone else, imho
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Jan 24, 2019 18:13
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pointsofdata posted:Yeah gently caress cars Don't kink shame
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Jan 24, 2019 18:14
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There's a few Model 3's in my apartment garage and one already got side swiped from the looks of it. A very expensive and difficult to repair car from what I have read. In other news, I still haven't seen any of the new Lexus LS models on the road.
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Jan 24, 2019 18:18
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As funny as that take is, I meant more in the root cause sense of why you're forced to commute through heavy traffic regularly. The larger systemic problems, things like a lack of reliable and attractive public transportation, poor infrastructure planning, lack of affordable housing near places of work, the rise of suburban hell neighborhoods necessitating long commutes, etc. Although it's really tempting to just say gently caress everyone else while stuck in traffic.
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Jan 24, 2019 18:19
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Bajaha posted:You're addressing the wrong problem here. The answer isn't gently caress manual, it's gently caress whatever is causing you to have to sit in traffic. Yup. I love cars but hate driving because most of my time spent driving is being sat in traffic. Manual is definitely more interesting in traffic though because what the gently caress else have you got to do with your time? Might as well shift gears a million times, right?
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Jan 24, 2019 19:25
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I don't personally mind driving a manual in traffic, it basically forces you to break the stupid gas-brake-gas-brake seesawing that a lot of people mindlessly do. Just find the flow and go with it as best you can. But I still hate driving in traffic in general, regardless of vehicle or transmission. I'm working on redesigning my life and work around sitting in traffic as little as possible. When I've been able to commute via transit, biking, or walking I just generally feel 10x better and less stressed out/pissed off throughout the day. I just feel both physically and mentally healthier. Not commuting via car also makes driving for fun something I actually end up doing, since I didn't already spend an hour in the car most days.
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Jan 24, 2019 19:37
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Twerk from Home posted:They don't really want to sell cars to hard or picky customers if your market has plenty of easy customers walking through the door who just want to buy an automatic Crosstrek. Both of my wife's previous cars (both Fords) I made the salesperson special-order the car from the factory with a manual. I had to wait over three months for each, but I got them. One was a high-spec Fiesta, the other was a high-spec Focus.
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Jan 24, 2019 19:47
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Guinness posted:I'm working on redesigning my life and work around sitting in traffic as little as possible. When I've been able to commute via transit, biking, or walking I just generally feel 10x better and less stressed out/pissed off throughout the day. I just feel both physically and mentally healthier. I used to be able to cycle to work and did so virtually every day for 6 years. I recently moved making the journey a lot longer and logistically impossible to ride without commuting most of the way then getting my bike out of the car etc. I've been noticeably more 'down' than I usually am and my incredibly well toned arse is now far more disappointing than it was. I'm looking at getting a motorbike because what should be roughly a 20 minute drive takes 3x that and it's just not cool.
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Jan 24, 2019 19:49
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I specifically choose higher real estate taxes and cost to put myself in the most favorable traffic conditions. The first 3 miles of my 9 mile commute are in a stop and go business district, but the rest is highway with half of that running counter to the normal flow of traffic. It takes a pretty big issue/event to cause me to sit in stop and go traffic thankfully.
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Jan 24, 2019 21:17
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specific to subaru manual transmission availability: dealers are selling everything they can get their hands on for the most part so why would they give a gently caress
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Jan 24, 2019 22:23
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:specific to subaru manual transmission availability: dealers are selling everything they can get their hands on for the most part so why would they give a gently caress That's fair. It doesn't make it any less frustrating.
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Jan 24, 2019 22:27
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LeeMajors posted:That's fair. It doesn't make it any less frustrating. agreed!
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Jan 24, 2019 22:28
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Aviator configurator is up. https://shop.lincoln.com/build/aviator/#/select/ The base model Aviator is just over $51k. That's RWD with a 400hp/400tq 3.0 ecoboost. $20k cheaper than a BMW X7 Cheapest hybrid is $68,800. can be optioned up to $90k
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Jan 24, 2019 22:37
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The base Aviator seems really nice for being the cheapest one.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:37
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I'll stop laughing at the idea of a $50k Ford when I see one in person that doesn't look like it was put together by drunks
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Jan 25, 2019 02:00
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Wheeee posted:I'll stop laughing at the idea of a $50k Ford when I see one in person that doesn't look like it was put together by drunks The drunks driving King Ranches can't tell the difference
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Jan 25, 2019 03:14
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Wheeee posted:I'll stop laughing at the idea of a $50k Ford when I see one in person that doesn't look like it was put together by drunks My 60k Lincoln looks like it was put together by drunks. Also the bumper cover started falling off so it’s been at the shop for over a month now. I’ll probably still get an Aviator next year cuz I love big fat ford dumps on my chest
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Jan 25, 2019 03:31
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LibCrusher posted:My 60k Lincoln looks like it was put together by drunks. Also the bumper cover started falling off so it’s been at the shop for over a month now. I’ll probably still get an Aviator next year cuz I love big fat ford dumps on my chest back in 2015 my mom took delivery of a new MKX that she drove about 3 days before bizarre computer issues started occurring. it spent about a month and a half in the shop with no headway made on it. it finally took the GM of the dealer, who we've known for about 35 years, to just pull the plug on the entire thing, get her another and make all the paperwork issues on Ford's side go away. i can't imagine the hell a normal person would have trying to get that done.
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Jan 25, 2019 05:38
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The service manager of a local Subaru dealership used to work for one of the bigger Ford dealerships around here. He told me their QC lately has been atrocious. Parts missing, driveshaft supports bolted in upside down on Mustangs, enough that he wouldn’t go near one. Anecdotal  but that’s what this thread is for I guess
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Jan 25, 2019 16:12
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i own every Bionicle posted:The service manager of a local Subaru dealership used to work for one of the bigger Ford dealerships around here. He told me their QC lately has been atrocious. Parts missing, driveshaft supports bolted in upside down on Mustangs, enough that he wouldn’t go near one. Did he then offer to sell you Superior Japanese Automobile that he just happens to be next to?
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Jan 25, 2019 16:27
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Nope, I had bought enough parts there for the rebuild of a Legacy GT wagon that he knew I was a lost cause/too far on the spectrum to convince of anything.
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Jan 25, 2019 16:34
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The drunks driving King Ranches can't tell the difference Boy I wish I could get a king ranch for 50k....my XLT Sport stickered at 51k. They're closer to 70k MSRP.
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Jan 25, 2019 19:14
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at least when you buy an expensive truck it retains its value pretty well, unlike an expensive car my stupid idiot brain keeps reminding me that i could get a pristine CPO E-Class for what a cloth seats F-150 or Lariat Ranger would cost me tho
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Auron posted:Boy I wish I could get a king ranch for 50k....my XLT Sport stickered at 51k. They're closer to 70k MSRP. lmao buying pick ups for that much
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Jan 25, 2019 22:16
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Proud Christian Mom posted:lmao buying pick ups for that much the average US transaction price for f-series trucks is $46,700 these days. People are out there paying $35k for nissan altimas and poo poo. stealing this from the capitalism thread because lol 
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Jan 25, 2019 22:34
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What the hell is that crap?
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Jan 25, 2019 22:40
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Something Offal posted:What the hell is that crap? Someone financing a car with an APR of a credit card. They financed an extended warranty for $3250 @ 16% for crying out loud.
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Jan 25, 2019 22:42
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Something Offal posted:What the hell is that crap? That is somebody paying $48,304 for a $22,991 car.
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Jan 25, 2019 22:48
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Powershift posted:That is somebody paying $48,304 for a $22,991 car. Holy mother of God
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Jan 26, 2019 00:43
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lol go plug some numbers into a mortgage calculator and look at the breakdown of interest vs principal in the payments
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Jan 26, 2019 00:48
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Wheeee posted:lol go plug some numbers into a mortgage calculator and look at the breakdown of interest vs principal in the payments And plus, you can live in your car, you can't drive your house.
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Powershift posted:the average US transaction price for f-series trucks is $46,700 these days. Yes finance companies are predatory as all hell what's new
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Jan 26, 2019 01:25
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Powershift posted:the average US transaction price for f-series trucks is $46,700 these days.  Had to read that poo poo a couple of times before it all sunk in. If you haven't ran out of the dealership screaming upon seeing that, then you really are the markiest of marks.
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Jan 26, 2019 04:09
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That person's credit score must be hilarious
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Jan 26, 2019 04:56
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atleast they got complimentary VIN etching
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