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Filthy Monkey
Jun 25, 2007

I am a specialist gsm, as it goes well with my 60 mining, but I haven't picked my other two crafting specs yet. I figured I would wait for the patch.

Looking at the notes, I am thinking alch will probably be good, as everything takes those grade 3 dissolvents. I am guessing they are specialist, along with the new supramax potions. The dissolvents all take one of the new ores too, which again, seem to go well with my mining.

Apart from that, BSM or ARM would seem logical to carry on the 'uses mining stuff' theme. BSM seems like the stronger option due to the 250 weapons, but ARM might have less competition.

If the new cul recipies are worthwhile, I would be half-tempted to say 'screw it' and go straight for that. I like the idea of being a specialist cook. It could give me a consumable focus between potions and food. I know cul has historically been the worst specialization though.

Filthy Monkey fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Sep 26, 2016

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

seiferguy posted:

Looks like they're adding glowy Ravana weapons too.

This is why I bought two of the hive forewings a couple weeks ago. I need my claymore.

Also hopefully they'll increase in price and I can make mad cash with the 2nd one.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.

quote:

An issue in “Thok ast Thok (Hard)“ and “Thok ast Thok (Extreme)“ wherein the target would be lost from Ravana during a phase change.

...That was a bug?

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Saigyouji posted:

...That was a bug?

:haw:

But for real, losing target on "transforming" enemies was the most annoying thing and I'm glad they are getting around to fixing it.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!
Newbie perma-group blind dungeon run: Amdapor Keep

Group: PLD (me), SCH, MNK, SMN

Thanks to being well-geared for fresh 50's, we had no issues with trash packs, even when we accidentally pulled two Dullohans along with a regular pack.

Psycheflayer - A very straightforward fight for the first half. Kill the priest, then work on the Psycheflayer, killing the adds as they appear. We were a little perplexed at first by the colossus golem that gets summoned at 50% and ate a couple of AOE's. I moved the Psycheflayer to the corner of the room, and we were never in range of the AOE again. Seems like kind of a sloppy design, because I think the intent was to force the group to continually move as the golem marches around the room. Either way, we sent the boss to Psycheflayer Heaven and moved on.

Demon Wall - We figured most of this one out before we even started the fight. A living wall at the far end of the room, and bottomless pits on either side. Gee, I wonder what will happen. The "dance" part was a bit surprising, but the purple poo poo on the floor always follows the same pattern and is easy to spot, so we got that down pretty quick. Otherwise, it seems like this is just a DPS race? I'm not sure what happens if the wall pushes you all the way to the door. I guess a wipe? I dunno, because we killed it instead.

Anataboga - Lots of cone attacks to avoid! Our SCH's pet was in overdrive mode removing debuffs, though I'm not sure what all was being cast on us. Imminent Catastrophe is super-telegraphed, and we knew right away to hide behind the statues. The adds were no big deal -- animated statues died quick, and we were a bit spread out anyway so the eyes were never hitting more than one person. We just healed through it and gave the boss a dirt nap.

Overall, we enjoyed Amdapor Keep, though it wasn't as memorable as some other dungeons. The trash was at a good level -- enough to get some exp and give you something to do, but not a ridiculous slog like Aurum Vale. The boss fights seemed designed to reinforce some basic dungeon concepts: positioning, line-of-sight, debuffs, etc., but they didn't feel very inspired on their own.

We have a bunch of players out of town for the next few days, and we've just gathered all of the materials to build our first airship, so it'll probably be the weekend before we do the next dungeon. I'm lobbying for Haukke Manor Hard, since the original is my favorite vanilla dungeon, and I want to see what they've done with it since we killed(?) the mistress.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Thundarr posted:

But for real, losing target on "transforming" enemies was the most annoying thing and I'm glad they are getting around to fixing it.

I thought for the longest time that this was an engine limitation, because it only really happened when either the skin changed significantly (ravana changing stances), or in the case of ratfinx, when he changes sizes, so they have to re-do him entirely to resize the target circle on the ground (if you pay attention, it only resizes after you lose target).

But then the other day I had a :doh: moment. That can't be it, players do both of these all the time when using mounts, and it doesn't untarget them. Good to see it being fixed.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
There are currently three seperate topics on the OF bitching about Egi Glamours being moved to 3.5

Ignoring the fact that the system is undoubtedly going to disappoint these same people because nothing short of dragging a full size primal ala FFXI will satisfy them, is this really something a lot of people give a poo poo about? I currently main SMN and it's never even registered to me as something that could be changed.

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008
Grimey Drawer
If anyone can datamine which folklore book is (presumably) going to be required for Teak, please post it. Between the aquariums and all the new crafts I want to start gathering that sooner rather than later.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
the of will complain about literally anything that they feel interferes with their ability to better pretend to be a catgirl while they erp

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Verranicus posted:

There are currently three seperate topics on the OF bitching about Egi Glamours being moved to 3.5

Ignoring the fact that the system is undoubtedly going to disappoint these same people because nothing short of dragging a full size primal ala FFXI will satisfy them, is this really something a lot of people give a poo poo about? I currently main SMN and it's never even registered to me as something that could be changed.

They added a maid glamour for chocobos in this patch. What more can these people want?

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist

WhiteHowler posted:

Psycheflayer - A very straightforward fight for the first half. Kill the priest, then work on the Psycheflayer, killing the adds as they appear. We were a little perplexed at first by the colossus golem that gets summoned at 50% and ate a couple of AOE's. I moved the Psycheflayer to the corner of the room, and we were never in range of the AOE again. Seems like kind of a sloppy design, because I think the intent was to force the group to continually move as the golem marches around the room. Either way, we sent the boss to Psycheflayer Heaven and moved on.

The Golem's large AOE attacks need line of sight, so the group can also move and hide around any of the stone pillars in the room.

SL the Pyro
Jun 16, 2013

My soul cries out
with the desire to
FRACTURE
your puny spine.


what do you mean that hotkey disappeared
Grade 3 Dissolvents :laffo:

Well, at least my ALC is earning its stripes.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Verranicus posted:

There are currently three seperate topics on the OF bitching about Egi Glamours being moved to 3.5

Ignoring the fact that the system is undoubtedly going to disappoint these same people because nothing short of dragging a full size primal ala FFXI will satisfy them, is this really something a lot of people give a poo poo about? I currently main SMN and it's never even registered to me as something that could be changed.

Take out your job stone and look at your carbuncles again.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Saigyouji posted:

...That was a bug?

:rimshot:

I can't believe it's taken them this long to fix, though.

Reiterpallasch
Nov 3, 2010



Fun Shoe
nobody wants egi glamours to lug around nidhogg on a leash; they want carbuncles back

e:f,b

Klades
Sep 8, 2011

WhiteHowler posted:

Newbie perma-group blind dungeon run: Amdapor Keep

Just for some perspective:
On the first boss, the aoe the big golem uses used to do a ridiculous amount of damage. Like, you would have probably died if it hit you. It was nerfed a lot. And at the gear levels when the game first came out, it definitely had a chance to wander all the way forward and back.

On the second boss, it used to have bee adds. Which had aoe lightning attacks which I think paralyzed? It was one of the first gatekeeper encounters in the game, pugs had a lot of trouble with the bees.

I can't remember if they changed much on the last boss. Maybe the orbs don't hurt as much? He still does the orbs if he lives long enough right?
Oh, and the "hide behind the pillars" aoe used to mostly just kill people outright.

ilifinicus
Mar 7, 2004

Tortolia posted:

If anyone can datamine which folklore book is (presumably) going to be required for Teak, please post it. Between the aquariums and all the new crafts I want to start gathering that sooner rather than later.
sure, once the patch is available

Scrublord Prime
Nov 27, 2007


I still want egi-glamors so I can get :3: carbuncle :3: back

Speaking of QoL upgrades, I'm glad they're swapping the earrings and necklace slots so the rightside slots match the order that vendors sell in. More than once I've bought an earring/necklace to replace a necklace/earring because reading is hard :negative:

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

hobbesmaster posted:

Take out your job stone and look at your carbuncles again.

Reiterpallasch posted:

nobody wants egi glamours to lug around nidhogg on a leash; they want carbuncles back

Okay but can anyone explain to me why? I get that Titan and Ifrit-egi's are ugly as all hell but the carbuncles are such nothing designs. I'd rather have a tiny Levi and Ramuh tbh. Just a Beard-Egi.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.
I'm kinda sad we're getting Calamity Unbound before Spiral, cause I've heard enough of the former to last me a lifetime and then some.

Bleu
Jul 19, 2006

quote:

Metal - Brute Justice Mode Orchestrion Roll

All right, well, see you in Midas then.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Okay but can anyone explain to me why? I get that Titan and Ifrit-egi's are ugly as all hell but the carbuncles are such nothing designs. I'd rather have a tiny Levi and Ramuh tbh. Just a Beard-Egi.
Carbuncle is a recurring character in Final Fantasy and some people like it more than egis, idk what more you want? Adding glamors is a step towards having a beard-egi, also, cause they're not gonna add Summon IV

SL the Pyro
Jun 16, 2013

My soul cries out
with the desire to
FRACTURE
your puny spine.


what do you mean that hotkey disappeared

Tortolia posted:

If anyone can datamine which folklore book is (presumably) going to be required for Teak, please post it. Between the aquariums and all the new crafts I want to start gathering that sooner rather than later.

Are we sure there's another folklore tome required for the new nodes? I haven't seen any new gatherer or crafter tomes in the patch notes, so I'm crossing my fingers that the new stuff is out of the current tomes.

Klades
Sep 8, 2011

What I actually want out of egi glamors is the ability to make egis look like their respective minions.
I mean carbuncles are ok too but come on.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

SL the Pyro posted:

Grade 3 Dissolvents :laffo:

Well, at least my ALC is earning its stripes.

It's not going to be that bad because the recipe for dissolvents makes 3 at a time.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

whoops

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Did I miss out on spending Esoterics? I thought the update was tomorrow and maitence would be wayyy later tonight.

a crisp refreshing Moxie
May 2, 2007


A lot of people who "play" SMN and bitch about it in the OF (Keep in mind this takes a certain personality type) won't be happy until they can either summon a primal and AFK while it does a full dps member's worth of damage, or summon a primal every ten seconds, HELLFIRE FOR BIG DAMAGE and otherwise AFK.

In other words, they're dumb and not worth listening to.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Did I miss out on spending Esoterics? I thought the update was tomorrow and maitence would be wayyy later tonight.

Yes.

This maint is 24 hours, like most major patch maints, so.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Don't be silly, the real primal summon is the LB3. Unfortunately it doesn't stop the fight for a 5 minute unskippable cutscene, maybe they'll fix that in 4.0

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

homeless snail posted:

Carbuncle is a recurring character in Final Fantasy and some people like it more than egis, idk what more you want? Adding glamors is a step towards having a beard-egi, also, cause they're not gonna add Summon IV

I just really don't like the FF14 version of Carbuncle I guess. It's just too real animal like for my tastes. I prefer the more cartoon exaggerated look in 6-9.

Actually never mind they should go with OG FFV carbuncle concept art.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.
On the note of glamours, I hope that the glamour prism consolidation is a preliminary step towards a glamour log of some description.

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

Saigyouji posted:

On the note of glamours, I hope that the glamour prism consolidation is a preliminary step towards a glamour log of some description.

I really hope so because both of my retainers devoted to banking glamour items are effectively full and will be overflowed by the end of this patch.

Kaebora
Jul 12, 2006

Be careful of forgetfulness. Your lucky color is...blue?

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Did I miss out on spending Esoterics? I thought the update was tomorrow and maitence would be wayyy later tonight.

Though, if it's like what they did with Law, you can still spend Eso tomes on the various mats (including Umbrite), or convert it to Lore. Eso gear's now (probably) behind the heavensward hunt currency.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Saigyouji posted:

On the note of glamours, I hope that the glamour prism consolidation is a preliminary step towards a glamour log of some description.

I'd be happy with an expanded armoire and being able to use things in the armoire for glamour instead of having to pull them back out. They keep saying it'd be a big back end drain or something, but it can't be worse than my retainers with 4 pages each of just glamour crap that also each have soulbound levels and durability and dyes to keep track of. You'd think that when you put stuff in the armoire and it removes all that stuff it was designed specifically to make the back end less bad for them.

fount of knowledge posted:

A lot of people who "play" SMN and bitch about it in the OF (Keep in mind this takes a certain personality type) won't be happy until they can either summon a primal and AFK while it does a full dps member's worth of damage, or summon a primal every ten seconds, HELLFIRE FOR BIG DAMAGE and otherwise AFK.

In other words, they're dumb and not worth listening to.

In a perfect world they'd let everyone use limit breaks individually and adjust their power accordingly, then the summoner limit break could be a giant flashy hellfire or diamond dust or whatever. It's not a specifically needed thing, although the current LB system doesn't offer all that much flexibility, and using the healer LB outside of wiping city or void ark or something feels very much like you should have just wiped and started over anyway.

Reiterpallasch
Nov 3, 2010



Fun Shoe
after everyone else in your dumb pf party got punched off the stage in sephirot ex, there's an about 1.5 second window you can cast healer lb3 in, where rez invincibility will protect everyone from earthshakers

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

fount of knowledge posted:

A lot of people who bitch in the OF ....are dumb and not worth listening to.
Should just be the thread title

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

I'd be happy with an expanded armoire and being able to use things in the armoire for glamour instead of having to pull them back out. They keep saying it'd be a big back end drain or something, but it can't be worse than my retainers with 4 pages each of just glamour crap that also each have soulbound levels and durability and dyes to keep track of. You'd think that when you put stuff in the armoire and it removes all that stuff it was designed specifically to make the back end less bad for them.

The difference is that retainers cost money, the armoire does not.
I think it has to do with how it re-updates the item list every x seconds or something silly.

To fit it into the lore, they should just introduce a museum for equipment or whatever. To keep glamour crafters happy, it could take only uncraftable blues/greens, and every item you "donate" is actually gone. In turn, you can access the whole catalog of "donated" items whenever you go there, maybe throw in a Glamour Specialist NPC in every major city that also gives you access.

If it's such a strain on the back-end, make access to the catalog require like 2$ a month. I'm p. sure a lot of people would do that in a heart beat.


edit: bonus points if you can walk around the exhibition and see all the kick-rear end stuff you collected mounted on displays.

HenryEx fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Sep 26, 2016

slev
Apr 6, 2009

If they ever put in an actual glamour system I hope it requires desynth just so I can see the reaction.

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Reiterpallasch
Nov 3, 2010



Fun Shoe
i hope that the 4.0 smn lb3 is alexander and it overrides the current bgm to FORWARD AND BACK AND FORWARD AND BACK AND

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