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baka kaba posted:The right-wing press (and the Mirror) have doxxed that guy who stopped the malware attacks by registering the domain name, and who wanted to remain anonymous for obvious reasons Sometimes it slips my mind that all journos are scum so it's helpful for them to occasionally remind me
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# ? May 16, 2017 01:30 |
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You're not pro brexit? Are you sure? The rich are going to get richer from it, as they deserve. It's only going to hurt the vindictive classes.
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# ? May 16, 2017 01:30 |
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Weren't the rich against brexit?
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# ? May 16, 2017 01:31 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:You're not pro brexit? Are you sure? The rich are going to get richer from it, as they deserve. It's only going to hurt the vindictive classes. Of course I am not. Brexit hurts England. Now I do feel that Europe would be better off under British rule then German or Russian. But that's another conversation all together.
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# ? May 16, 2017 01:35 |
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Anyone who thinks Labour moving to the right would be a good thing needs to watch the interview with Damien Green on Newsnight tonight. 'Labour are offering a £10 an hour minimum wage, you can't even say it will reach £9 an hour. How can you call yourselves the party of workers?' 'Labour would enforce a 20:1 pay ratio, showing workers their bosses will not continue to get inordinate pay rises. Why won't you do that?' 'Labour want to intervene in rail networks, royal mail and other markets. Why are those bad ideas but your proposed intervention in the energy market is a good idea?' You want the Tories defending themselves against popular left-wing policies. Try and challenge them on stuff like immigration or being tough on skivers and they'll just laugh and shift even further to the right, just like they did in 2015.
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# ? May 16, 2017 01:35 |
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The true party of the worker generously allows them to take a year off to become a carer.
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# ? May 16, 2017 01:38 |
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jabby posted:Anyone who thinks Labour moving to the right would be a good thing needs to watch the interview with Damien Green on Newsnight tonight. Maybe, maybe not, lets give it three weeks and see how it really goes. If corbysista labour doesnt do better than miliband labour, and does worse than blairite labour did, then we know that a move left has not been helpful and depending on the magnitude of the difference, may indeed have been harmful. Corbyn is the dream leftist and he has a known communist running his campaign. This is going to be a compelling experiment and provide strong evidence one way or another regarding the many hypotheses about labour, leftism, and centrism which we have heard since the time of Blair.
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# ? May 16, 2017 01:43 |
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hakimashou posted:
There is no way he could do as well as Blair did. Three terms as PM, led Britain to glory in two battlefronts, and took care of the homefront. Tony Blair was objectively the greatest man to ever run on a Labor ticket. If he had been in charge of the party he would have stood up and forced parliament to at least amend the Brexit bill in parliament. He would have never rolled over like Corbyn did. Blair is a man of honor and he loves his county. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? May 16, 2017 01:53 |
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I don't care if it's a gimmick or not, tankie mod best mod This thread was unreadable
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# ? May 16, 2017 02:25 |
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Private Speech posted:I don't care if it's a gimmick or not, tankie mod best mod If you were trying to rehabilitate Stalinism as a desirable ideology you could do a lot worse, imo.
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# ? May 16, 2017 02:28 |
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that guys banned if he posts here again and im genuinely a marxist-leninist. cheers
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# ? May 16, 2017 02:34 |
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Thank you.
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# ? May 16, 2017 06:49 |
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Based mods Thanks for getting those dirty alternative opinions away from me!
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# ? May 16, 2017 06:55 |
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Ah yes a 2003 contrarian white noise. Good vintage opinion.
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# ? May 16, 2017 07:25 |
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kek
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# ? May 16, 2017 07:26 |
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I wanna import that fantasy to Canada.
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# ? May 16, 2017 07:32 |
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is this real because those are good things
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# ? May 16, 2017 07:34 |
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Labour also promising to nationalise water companies too. This can only be a good thing - I work for a private equity-owned water company and know what a loving joke the current setup is (monopolised, captive customer base, company loaded up with debt which is then extracted through dividend payouts, money shuffled through multiple layers of shell companies, profit goes to the private equity owners, risk lands straight on the tax payer). The sooner it's nationalised, the better imo.
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# ? May 16, 2017 07:47 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Based mods I'm not sure he was being sincere
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# ? May 16, 2017 08:05 |
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Why do people keep making out Brexit is a right wing thing when a lot of the hard left also voted out?
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# ? May 16, 2017 08:19 |
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Why do people keep making out Brexit is a right wing thing when a lot of the hard left also voted out? There are a lot more hard right than hard left
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# ? May 16, 2017 08:21 |
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Why do people keep making out Brexit is a right wing thing when a lot of the hard left also voted out? Because the Hard Left is about ten guys, while the Hard Right is 10%-13% of the National Vote.
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# ? May 16, 2017 08:35 |
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I'm hard left and i didn't vote out, nor did any of the other communists or socialists i know. Brexit wasn't a hardleft thing, it was a loving stupid thing because the choice was between european neoliberalism or full unrestrained tory poorfucking and xenophobia. Lesser of two evils, innit.
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# ? May 16, 2017 08:41 |
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I tend to think factors like age, education, immigration status and proximity to plain white on the dulux colour chart had a much larger role to play in Brexit than whether someone politically identified as right or left wing. edit: also, I suppose, rural vs. urban but that kind of maps onto age, education and whiteness anyway
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# ? May 16, 2017 08:59 |
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# ? May 16, 2017 09:13 |
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I assume the all voters share is adjusted for turnout across the age groups?
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# ? May 16, 2017 09:18 |
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baka kaba posted:I bet Hitler thought he was a centrist sad that wwii isn't a required part of secondary school history classes anymore
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# ? May 16, 2017 09:20 |
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Ian Brady is dead. As a notorious murderer of children, that's one less Tory vote.
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# ? May 16, 2017 09:38 |
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Edit: quote is not edit.
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# ? May 16, 2017 09:43 |
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Finally his title can be handed over to Tony Blair.
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# ? May 16, 2017 10:01 |
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Those are votes for Labour he's stopping.
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# ? May 16, 2017 10:14 |
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That's three and counting.
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# ? May 16, 2017 10:19 |
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Ballot time
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# ? May 16, 2017 10:22 |
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Noted war criminal Tony Blair may yet have his day in courtquote:A high court judge is to consider whether a legal ban on prosecuting Tony Blair over the Iraq war can be challenged.
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# ? May 16, 2017 10:27 |
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Kegluneq posted:
Or alternatively the monikers hard left and hard right mean sod all without describing what they are hard left / right of. Many people are 'hard' right on immigration, while also being 'hard' left on economics. This has been shown constantly on the opinion polls. Its as I have said a few times, Labour would win with a landslide with a manifesto based around nationalisation, house building and limiting immigration in a region until average house prices are affordable. But we can't talk about immigration as that's 'racist' despite the fact this country has significant issues due to far too little money has been spent on infrastructure, and until that infrastructure has caught up its silly to add further people to it and making the problems even worse.
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# ? May 16, 2017 10:28 |
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What's worse? Blair never being tried for his crimes, or being tried and exonerated?
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# ? May 16, 2017 10:29 |
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Jedit posted:What's worse? Blair never being tried for his crimes, or being tried and exonerated? ukle posted:But we can't talk about immigration as that's 'racist' despite the fact this country has significant issues due to far too little money has been spent on infrastructure, and until that infrastructure has caught up its silly to add further people to it and making the problems even worse. TACD fucked around with this message at 10:38 on May 16, 2017 |
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Evil_Urna posted:Honestly, the only way Labour's going to redeem themselves in the eyes of the British electorate after they get thrashed in June is to purge the extremists, head back to the center, and build a working collation government with the ruling Tory party. Yes because a coalition with the Tories did wonders for Lib Dem popularity, you fuckwit nazi.
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# ? May 16, 2017 10:36 |
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ukle posted:Or alternatively the monikers hard left and hard right mean sod all without describing what they are hard left / right of. Hmm yes, its definitely the hard right and hard left which are poorly defined terms, unlike the solid ideological bedrock of liberal centrism. Also Labour would in no way win a landslide on an ethnic nationalist platform since 1. Loads of people would leave and not vote for an openly racist labour (like me) 2. If immigration is your deciding factor people are going to trust the Tories/UKIP on it more than Labour
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ukle posted:But we can't talk about immigration as that's 'racist' MikeCrotch posted:1. Loads of people would leave and not vote for an openly racist labour (like me) It's difficult isn't it ukle?
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