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Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Incessant Excess posted:

If I'm looking for a cheap tablet, the Fire range is pretty much my only option, right? All it needs to do is support Plex.

Yeah. I'd avoid the 7" one unless your budget is hard capped at $35. The fire tablets are like netbooks: slower and less comfortable to use than an iPad, but at 1/3 the price while accomplishing the same thing.

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Nokia is doing Android One for all their phones here on out. The only exception is the bare bones Nokia 1 which will be Android Go.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Twerk from Home posted:

Yeah. I'd avoid the 7" one unless your budget is hard capped at $35. The fire tablets are like netbooks: slower and less comfortable to use than an iPad, but at 1/3 the price while accomplishing the same thing.

This is kinda right, but Fire tablets are much more comfortable to use then netbooks ever were.


(also there's an Android Tablet thread)

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

bull3964 posted:

Nokia is doing Android One for all their phones here on out. The only exception is the bare bones Nokia 1 which will be Android Go.

They need to chop chop on the US releases

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Maneki Neko posted:

They need to chop chop on the US releases

Yeah. I can understand them not bringing every single model over, but stuff like the Nokia 1 and the Nokia 6 has the possibility of eating a lot of Moto's lunch here.

The Nokia 1 is hilariously low spec, but it's kind of endearing in that respect. It's really 2018's version of a featurephone, yet far more functional.

It would be awesome if you could just walk into Best Buy or Target and buy this thing for $85 unlocked and up to date.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
Gimme that Nokia 8110.

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


Hughmoris posted:

Gimme that Nokia 8110.

Will it work in the states?

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

God I hope so.

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

Incessant Excess posted:

If I'm looking for a cheap tablet, the Fire range is pretty much my only option, right? All it needs to do is support Plex.

Twerk from Home posted:

Yeah. I'd avoid the 7" one unless your budget is hard capped at $35. The fire tablets are like netbooks: slower and less comfortable to use than an iPad, but at 1/3 the price while accomplishing the same thing.

What about all of the inexpensive Chinese/SEA branded tablets?

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Chinese tablets will likely not get updates and have the possibility of backdoors/phoning home tour information. The amazon hd8 is like 80 bucks and works fine, and receives updates from Amazon fairly frequently

And you of course get a warranty and support

Blue Train fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Feb 25, 2018

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I kind of want to buy a Huawei Honor 7X, is this a terrible idea for a budget phone?

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
It's looking like the s9 unlocked is slightly cheaper then last year's s8.. $720..
They are offering 350 for a s8 trade in and I think I'm going to fall for it. I figure I normally upgrade every two years but then hang on to the old phone anyway for no reason and if the options are 700 every two years or 350 every year the advantage of the trade in is somewhat obvious if I'm sticking with galaxy phones.

Jigoku
Apr 5, 2009

I haven't had the pixel 2 xl for long but I've been having an issue with the phone screen randomly not waking up after charging until I hard reset the phone.

If I'm listening to something over Bluetooth, it will continue to play through this state and I can pause / resume with my neckbuds. I can double tap power to camera and try to unlock it with the finger print sensor and it'll vibrate like normal but the screen won't turn on.

I'm using this Aukey car charger with my Google USB cable. It won't work with the other two cables I have.

I'm using this Anker USB 3.1 gen 2 cable with my Google charger.

I'm also using this old tronsmart portable charger and this old Belkin USB-C 2.0 cable with it, mainly to charge my Switch.

I'm going to go back to using the Google charger / cable exclusively to see if it still happens, I have a car inverter lying around, too. But it's not every time I charge with the current setup. If it still persists, I'm going to start deleting some apps. Has anybody had this happen?

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Nope, I use a variety of chargers and Bluetooth things in various locations and haven't had what you're describing happen.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyVRpjq5-sc

Nokia 8 Sirocco with Android One:

SD835
6Gb RAM
128Gb+MicroSD
Curved pOLED screen with 1440p resolution (LG screen).
3260mAh battery
Launch April 2018 for around 749€

Looks nice but looking how midrangers are going nowadays, I'll replace my P9 (if by august doesn't work as well as it's doing right now) with a 2018 Nokia 6 or even the 7 if the price isn't much higher

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

Blue Train posted:

Chinese tablets will likely not get updates and have the possibility of backdoors/phoning home tour information. The amazon hd8 is like 80 bucks and works fine, and receives updates from Amazon fairly frequently

And you of course get a warranty and support

Because the Chinese just ache to spy on you through your cheap mediabox tablet. It is of critical importance to national security that they can't see that you were watching Backdoor Sluts 9 for six hours straight last night.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Americans judging other countries on privacy concerns will never not be hilarious.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

IuniusBrutus posted:

I kind of want to buy a Huawei Honor 7X, is this a terrible idea for a budget phone?

Answering myself - reviews do not seem to indicate a good experience!


I can get an OG Pixel for $275, but I really would like water resistance, and the camera is not all that important to me - I may go with an E4 and see if I can live life on the cheap side after a decade of premium phones.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

osirisisdead posted:

Because the Chinese just ache to spy on you through your cheap mediabox tablet. It is of critical importance to national security that they can't see that you were watching Backdoor Sluts 9 for six hours straight last night.

Durr I don't have anything to hide so who cares :pram:

CLAM DOWN posted:

Americans judging other countries on privacy concerns will never not be hilarious.

America is fuckin garbage yes. it's wrong whenever anyone does it hth

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

Kind of Android adjacent, but does anyone have a recommendation on micro usb cables that don't break in like a loving month? Every one I buy off Amazon craps out so quickly. I wouldn't mind paying more for one that will last, if I just knew which one that was (also would hopefully be available in longer lengths)

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

A Proper Uppercut posted:

Kind of Android adjacent, but does anyone have a recommendation on micro usb cables that don't break in like a loving month? Every one I buy off Amazon craps out so quickly. I wouldn't mind paying more for one that will last, if I just knew which one that was (also would hopefully be available in longer lengths)

Excise micro USB from your life and you will be happier, friend.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

LastInLine posted:

Excise micro USB from your life and you will be happier, friend.

With what, wireless charging? Does that work well in cars?

Edit: I was also assuming usb C was considered micro usb, maybe it's not? Either way I still have the same problems with usb C cables.

A Proper Uppercut fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Feb 26, 2018

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

osirisisdead posted:

Because the Chinese just ache to spy on you through your cheap mediabox tablet. It is of critical importance to national security that they can't see that you were watching Backdoor Sluts 9 for six hours straight last night.

I don't think Chinese state intelligence is the main target of concern. Those backdoors seem to get discovered and disclosed pretty regularly by security researchers, and it would seem naive not to assume that more aren't being discovered by third parties who keep them to themselves to exploit.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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IuniusBrutus posted:

I kind of want to buy a Huawei Honor 7X, is this a terrible idea for a budget phone?

If it's like the 5x / 6x it's probably a decent phone with above-average hardware for the price and a clunky, infrequently updated software experience. My mother has had an Honor 6x since it launched about a year ago, and likes it. If you can wait a month the Moto G6 is likely better software, but Honor 7x looks fine for the money.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

A Proper Uppercut posted:

With what, wireless charging? Does that work well in cars?

Edit: I was also assuming usb C was considered micro usb, maybe it's not? Either way I still have the same problems with usb C cables.

I'm all USB C but I'm not burning through cables even though both my MacBook Pro and Pixel are always using the same cables. I'm on the same Amazon Basics cables I bought when I got the phone and they all work fine.

Are you mistreating the cables?

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
lol if you're worried about security concerns, who cares about updates and exploits!

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

LastInLine posted:

Are you mistreating the cables?
He has to be. I've never had a type c cable fail and I don't remember any of my micro b cables failing, either.

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo
So instead of vague FUD, do you actually have any information about the specific threats that have been disclosed to date? It seems that there is one company, Blu, that had a big malware outbreak last year, but I haven't seen any other specific disclosures. Though, I have been out of the loop for a while.

Bryter posted:

I don't think Chinese state intelligence is the main target of concern. Those backdoors seem to get discovered and disclosed pretty regularly by security researchers, and it would seem naive not to assume that more aren't being discovered by third parties who keep them to themselves to exploit.

It was clearly rhetorical hyperbole, and it would be naive to assume that any device is free of 0-days.

Give me some specific examples (beyond that one) and then we can have a conversation. Otherwise you're basically just farting, "Fear the Chinamen!"

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



bull3964 posted:

Looks like we have a new "safe" list of devices from a security perspective.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...otorola-others/



Devices are:

Samsung is notably absent.

Showed this to my boyfriend and he told me he doesn't need security on his phone because his phone "has no banking or credit card information on it". He's planning on getting the Galaxy S9+ on Verizon.

I'm more scared that there are more people out there like this.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


The main thing I'd worry about from a Chinese phone from a security standpoint is maybe corporate espionage. Foreign countries might not care about what your porno tastes are, or what your Google password is, but I could see them absolutely wanting to steal trade secrets if you use your phone for that sort of thing. Or, if you work at an institution that is important enough, they could use your inside info to infiltrate it.

If you have stuff at work worth safeguarding, you may want to think twice about using a Chinese phone. I think that's why US government agencies are warning citizens about it.

Otherwise, go nuts.

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo
lol if your org makes you use your personal phone for work.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

osirisisdead posted:

So instead of vague FUD, do you actually have any information about the specific threats that have been disclosed to date? It seems that there is one company, Blu, that had a big malware outbreak last year, but I haven't seen any other specific disclosures. Though, I have been out of the loop for a while.


It was clearly rhetorical hyperbole, and it would be naive to assume that any device is free of 0-days.

Give me some specific examples (beyond that one) and then we can have a conversation. Otherwise you're basically just farting, "Fear the Chinamen!"

Sure, here's what the brief googling you apparently were unable to do yourself turns up:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/chinese-android-phones-backdoor,news-20032.html

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/chinese-smartphone-spyware,news-19003.html

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/xiaomi-mi4-malware-preinstalled,news-20598.html

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


osirisisdead posted:

lol if your org makes you use your personal phone for work.

It's not unheard of. Joke's on the company if an employee unwittingly pwns them with a Huawei/Blu/Oneplus/whatever.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


ThermoPhysical posted:

Showed this to my boyfriend and he told me he doesn't need security on his phone because his phone "has no banking or credit card information on it". He's planning on getting the Galaxy S9+ on Verizon.

I'm more scared that there are more people out there like this.

the idiocy of your boyfriend is now leaking to multiple threads. why do you tolerate this person

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo
1. Those are lovely articles and not what I wanted. I wanted actually good information, not some hot-garbage tech journo 500 word :justpost: filler articles. Try harder.

2. So you are going to generalize the cases of a small number of bad devices and then also argue that somehow the mainstream American market is somehow "more secure" when Google can't even police the Play Store worth a drat? Really?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/android-security-sneaky-three-stage-malware-found-in-google-play-store/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/phony-android-security-apps-in-google-play-store-found-distributing-malware-and-tracking-users/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/09/14/massive-google-android-malware-expensivewall/#25eb26da477f

https://securingtomorrow.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/android-malware-grabos-exposed-millions-to-pay-per-install-scam-on-google-play/

azurite posted:

It's not unheard of. Joke's on the company if an employee unwittingly pwns them with a Huawei/Blu/Oneplus/whatever.

I know. Most of the world is full of idiots.

Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Feb 26, 2018

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

osirisisdead posted:

1. Those are lovely articles and not what I wanted. I wanted actually good information, not some hot-garbage tech journo 500 word :justpost: filler articles. Try harder.

I don't think your perception of the quality of the journalism changes the fact that they describe verifiable instances of exploits being discovered. If you want further information on what they document then maybe you'll enjoy researching it on your own time.

quote:

2. So you are going to generalize the cases of a small number of bad devices and then also argue that somehow the mainstream American market is somehow "more secure" when Google can't even police the Play Store worth a drat? Really?

If manufacturers based in one country repeatedly produce devices with easily discoverable preinstalled backdoors and manufacturers based in another country don't, then latter is more secure, yes, even if they're both vulnerable to dodgy apps on the play store.

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo
I was just hoping someone here actually knew things, but I guess this is still The Internet.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Any one use the Z2 FORCE with the Gcam app right? Is there a way to save pics to the SD card? And have you been having problems switching from pic to vid?

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

osirisisdead posted:

I was just hoping someone here actually knew things, but I guess this is still The Internet.

Spicy

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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

I really want to get out of iOS, currently using an iphone SE which is... fine but I want a better display in addition to wanting to be on android.

Is there anything I should be looking at besides the S9? They're doing an offer where you can trade in any functioning phone for $150 off + the value of the phone. I was going to send in an old piece of poo poo iphone 5 for this that's sitting in my drawer.

The 1080p display on the Pixel 2 is not enough for me and I heard the XL has lots of problems with the display. I don't know much about other android phones.

e: I'm out of contract, Canadian, and have a plan that I like very much but they won't renew so I'm only looking to buy an unlocked phone.

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