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sticklefifer posted:You're forgetting that the 1990s made it cool and awesome to spell everything differently, like with X's and numbers instead of letters and poo poo. I'm surprised toggle-case never caught on in WWE, frankly.
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Shima Honnou posted:Sometimes I like to stop and think how different the world would be if Jericho had been told WCW was going to be sold so he could have bought it out instead of Vince. What would he have done with it? It was going to lose the TV spot so he would have just assumed the IP and library and probably would have ended up selling to Vince anyway. I guess it would have spared us from the Invasion angle though. Was he a serious buyer? I'd never heard him connected to the sale.
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Bigass Moth posted:What would he have done with it? It was going to lose the TV spot so he would have just assumed the IP and library and probably would have ended up selling to Vince anyway. I guess it would have spared us from the Invasion angle though. According to Jericho, he and others were not informed that it was even up for sale until after the deal was done. Jericho has admitted that if he knew it was for sale, he'd have bought it himself since he had enough money to meet their asking price.
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Bigass Moth posted:What would he have done with it? It was going to lose the TV spot so he would have just assumed the IP and library and probably would have ended up selling to Vince anyway. I guess it would have spared us from the Invasion angle though. He was absolutely never going to buy WCW. It went at that price because it had no value to anyone other than Vince and Vince would have easily outbid anyone else who wanted the company.
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WeaponX posted:Also, didn't WWE legally obtain the right to either buy or pass on WCW before anyone else? Yes, they had right of first refusal from the Outsiders lawsuit. I don't even think that mattered too much now. The company had been on the market for six months (Turner originally tried to sell to Vince in October) and the Fusient deal had been delayed by two months. By March they were dead set on selling that thing no matter before they even canceled the TV. A company with no TV and only a week to find that TV has no value to anyone but Vince McMahon.
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MassRafTer posted:Yes, they had right of first refusal from the Outsiders lawsuit. I don't even think that mattered too much now. The company had been on the market for six months (Turner originally tried to sell to Vince in October) and the Fusient deal had been delayed by two months. By March they were dead set on selling that thing no matter before they even canceled the TV. A company with no TV and only a week to find that TV has no value to anyone but Vince McMahon. And worth noting was that Vince tried to get Nitro a new station and COULDN'T. So if Vince couldn't get someone to pick up Nitro I doubt Jericho would have been able to.
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Shima Honnou posted:According to Jericho, he and others were not informed that it was even up for sale until after the deal was done. Jericho has admitted that if he knew it was for sale, he'd have bought it himself since he had enough money to meet their asking price. I'm pretty sure Jericho was making fun of the fact that WCW went for chump change.
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KungFu Grip posted:I'm trying to remember some older territory day wrestler that was balding, had a beard, wore a yellow shirt that said something along the lines of "I'm Not A Nice Guy" or some other Ox Bakerism, and had his one arm in a cast/wrist protector and used it as his finish. I discovered him before on accident but now I can't remember his name. Does anyone know who that could be? I'm guessing no one knows who this could be then because I found out it was a guy named Buck Robley.
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Given that AJ Styles is said to be booked solid suggesting that indies are making enough from his bookings to pay his fee, is it possible that he draws better as an independent wrestler than on a TNA house show? Would that make TNA a negative draw?
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epitasis posted:Given that AJ Styles is said to be booked solid suggesting that indies are making enough from his bookings to pay his fee, is it possible that he draws better as an independent wrestler than on a TNA house show? Would that make TNA a negative draw? I'm pretty drat sure his ROH appearances have outdrawn the average recent TNA house show at least. He's also done several small indies that would probably be comprable though.
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STAC Goat posted:It's really as simple as this, I think. It seems like modern day fans have either forgotten or don't realize that there was a time when Vince wasn't king and WWE don't own the business. WWE has done a good job writing history to seem like they've always been unstoppable, even when WCW was evilly trying to kill them, but there was a time when there was competition, they were even #2, and wrestlers had leverage. To hear Nash tell it the Kliq just wised up to the cutthroat nature of the business and decided to play ball and work together. And since WCW gave them the ability to walk from WWF (and vice versa) they were able to make things happen. It's probably the closest wrestling will ever come to unionizing. Exactly, WCW spent a huge chunk of the mid '90s bleeding WWF dry of talent and if anything being nice to the Kliq (the last few established main-eventers) was if anything a business decision. WCW could call anyone in WWF at any time, offering guaranteed big money and loyalty was the only thing keeping people like Bret Hart around (before Montreal). It fostered an environment where honestly the talent could wrap the company around their fingers, because they were needed, and drugged-up HBK took advantage of that environment badly. Today, the competition is gone and the threat of leaving is like "well, where are you going to go? You'll be back once that misadventure ends". Either because the wasteland that is TNA, the short-term ride that is MMA or the lack of income that is the chaotic indy circuit compared to WWE. A wrestler jumping ship in the late '90s was a big deal but now, WWE is just in such total control of pro wrestling it's nothing more than a blip for the dirtsheets to freak about and nothing more.
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Mar 6, 2014 05:43
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Watching SummerSlam 92...why did the Ultimate Warrior start wearing a singlet?
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JPrime posted:Watching SummerSlam 92...why did the Ultimate Warrior start wearing a singlet? lost his physique I think.
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WWF was in the midst of the steroid trial, so they did what they could to disguise the fact that their guys were getting smaller now that they were off the juice.
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Mar 6, 2014 06:29
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The original Warrior died and was replaced by The Ryback.
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MassRafTer posted:The original Warrior died and was replaced by The Ryback. The Ryback is a shaved Renegade? That seems racist somehow.
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's from the 11/30/98 Raw which sadly isn't on the network. Is that '98? Shawn wasn't wrestling at that point, and it looks like before/after a match. '97, maybe?
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Manny Suave posted:Is that '98? Shawn wasn't wrestling at that point, and it looks like before/after a match. '97, maybe? I googled "Shawn Michaels miming a blowjob" and the page I found was a Raw review from '98. If it's the right episode, it's the one where he replaced Sgt. Slaughter as commissioner.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I googled "Shawn Michaels miming a blowjob" and the page I found was a Raw review from '98. If it's the right episode, it's the one where he replaced Sgt. Slaughter as commissioner. It's not, I remember doing detective work for that gif a few years back and found that it's from the 8/11/97 Raw. However the Raw episode itself doesn't show it because it goes off the air beforehand. You can tell it is from that show by that same glove Shawn is wearing and also the placement of a fans neon green sign in the background when comparing the two. Anyways the footage itself is shown on the original DX DVD about 8:50 in. 
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When they do two Elimination Chamber matches and some kind of damage was done to the pods or cage in the first one, do they just replace them during promos between matches, or do they work on the cage up in the rafters? I've always wondered this because it's happened a few times over the years.
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sticklefifer posted:When they do two Elimination Chamber matches and some kind of damage was done to the pods or cage in the first one, do they just replace them during promos between matches, or do they work on the cage up in the rafters? I've always wondered this because it's happened a few times over the years. Probably during the video package before the next chamber match because I don't see any way they let people in that thing when it's hanging from the ceiling up there.
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Justin Godscock posted:Exactly, WCW spent a huge chunk of the mid '90s bleeding WWF dry of talent and if anything being nice to the Kliq (the last few established main-eventers) was if anything a business decision. WCW could call anyone in WWF at any time, offering guaranteed big money and loyalty was the only thing keeping people like Bret Hart around (before Montreal). It fostered an environment where honestly the talent could wrap the company around their fingers, because they were needed, and drugged-up HBK took advantage of that environment badly. Which is why the only guys that have any leverage with WWE are those who are independently wealthy (CM Punk), are in TV/movies (Rock, Batista), or found a combination of indie wrestling/small films to get by (Morrison).
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emjayo posted:Whatever happened to Luke Gallows? Went to TNA, then Japan.
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Gaz-L posted:Went to TNA, then Japan. Hell before career heaven. Gotcha.
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emjayo posted:Whatever happened to Luke Gallows? TNA in Aces & Eights for a bit, it sucked. Now in NJPW in Devitt's evil gaijin stable, Bullet Club. Its much better. Edit: Beaten, so I'll give you a funny fact, he was D.O.C aka "The Director of Chaos" (pronounced Doc) in TNA. Now that he is in Japan he is called Doc Gallows. Guess they figured to just split the difference. Was hoping they'd call him Giant Bernard II. WeaponX fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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Doc Gallows is a great ring name.
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emjayo posted:Doc Gallows is a great ring name. Yeah I like it a lot, sounds like something from a western
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triplexpac posted:Yeah I like it a lot, sounds like something from a western Probably goes over really well in Japan, then.
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Liquid Communism posted:Probably goes over really well in Japan, then. No its the westerns that steal from the Japanesse.
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triplexpac posted:Yeah I like it a lot, sounds like something from a western My first thought in a wrestling context was that it sounds like it should've been the name of Taker's tag partner 20 years ago.
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Lance Hoyt/Vance Archer does the same thing in some indies, as Lance Archer.
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Speaking of NJPW, where do I go if I want to check it out?
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Unlucky7 posted:Speaking of NJPW, where do I go if I want to check it out? Japan.
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Sir Jebus posted:Japan. Hey now ROH is doing some NJPW co-promoted shows. He could go to the USA or Canada!
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In '90s WCW there was a tag team comprised of Tex Slazenger and Shanghai Pierce. Shanghai Pierce just might be the greatest name in all of pro wrestling.
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Davros1 posted:In '90s WCW there was a tag team comprised of Tex Slazenger and Shanghai Pierce. Shanghai Pierce just might be the greatest name in all of pro wrestling. Wasn't there some guy called "Jeep Swanson" or something equally ridiculous/awesome?
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Yeah, and he was also the guy who played Bane in Batman and Robin.
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