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So what are the odds of the liberals some how staying in power another 4 years?
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McGavin posted:The Calgary Herald is already whinging about how the NDP-Green coalition is going to ruin the Canadian economy. "The Trans Mountain Expansion project remains under federal jurisdiction, which keeps the ball firmly in Trudeau’s court when it comes to dealing with protests and other measures that could compromise its progress." those pesky protesters and first nations!!! Baronjutter posted:So what are the odds of the liberals some how staying in power another 4 years? Not sure how they would?
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May 30, 2017 22:11
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Baronjutter posted:So what are the odds of the liberals some how staying in power another 4 years? In BC? They're not. Christy Clark said she's going to test the confidence of the legislature, where she expects it to fail, and then lead the opposition. Or at least, she's open to being opposition leader.
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May 30, 2017 22:12
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Give a bunch of their donated money to a company that just happens to be owned by the spouse of a Green or NDP MLA who then suddenly decides to cross the floor.
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May 30, 2017 22:13
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twistedmentat posted:And wow, as someone who will benefit from the Minimum Wage increase in Ontario, I just feel poo poo upon by all the people claiming doom and gloom for the province because of it. Oh no, we can't pay people more, small business! People saying they're going to have to lay off their staff because they cannot afford to pay them, and then when told that maybe they should run their buisness better, claim that they pay them what the market will bare and don't want to be told how much to pay people. Ugh. I looked around about what happened with Seattle when they increased but all I could find was conservative sources claiming it destroyed the city and blah blah blah blah. Puff out your chest and tell them fool rear end motherfuckers to suck your dick from the back, comrade. In no way am I dumb enough to vote for them because of this but I am glad of this tiny glimmer of good news, even if it is only because the liberals are scared of an election
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May 30, 2017 22:14
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weaver gave them everything lmao no bridge tolls, no greens in cabinet, PR referendum
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May 30, 2017 22:16
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I can see all sorts of horrible poo poo going down. -Liberals bribe a couple green or ndp's over, they say they're doing it because the liberals "won the election" and backroom deals are undemocratic! -Green/NDP alliance some how falls apart before they can officially become government -A anonymous tip leads to a full RCMP raid and investigation that end up proving 8 years ago a newly elected NDP MLA downloaded a movie illegally while using TAX DOLLAR funded internet and is forced to resign, the outrage scandalizes the NDP for 10 years and is constantly brought up as evidence that "see: both parties are criminals" -Some weird political poo poo that I don't understand happens and the whole thing drags out for 2 more years and then there's an election and Christie wins a landslide majority because "look what uncertainty did to house prices!!"
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May 30, 2017 22:18
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Weaver making GBS threads on Kinder Morgan now 😂 you beautiful bastard
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May 30, 2017 22:18
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CLAM DOWN posted:"The Trans Mountain Expansion project remains under federal jurisdiction, which keeps the ball firmly in Trudeau’s court when it comes to dealing with protests and other measures that could compromise its progress." I'm still 90% sure Trudeau and the Liberals know that some combination of protests, activists and provincial governments will stop the pipeline, but in the end at least they can say they tried.
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May 30, 2017 22:18
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It was interesting in Weaver noting they don't have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to figuring out electoral reform, but can build off of and look at the recommendations that the Federal government came up with in the ERRE report.
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May 30, 2017 22:19
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Good thing Trudeau is a cool enough dude to make sure the pipelines happen. So happy I voted Liberal!
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May 30, 2017 22:21
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They could also look at the recommendations from the last time BC tried to implement electoral reform in 2009.
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May 30, 2017 22:22
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I hope Horgan and Weaver not only stop the "federal" pipeline but they actually declare the entire alberta oil industry closed (actually economics seem to be doing that part well enough) and it some how sticks.
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May 30, 2017 22:24
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THC posted:PR referendum argh just loving push it through, no referendum, god loving dammit I hate this province sometimes
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May 30, 2017 22:24
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CLAM DOWN posted:argh just loving push it through, no referendum, god loving dammit I hate this province sometimes I have a feeling the NDP don't want it. You only have referendums for things you don't want.
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May 30, 2017 22:24
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How exactly were the members supposed to negociate deals in the house when the Premier never convenes a sitting session?
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May 30, 2017 22:25
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Not handing over transitional documents is pretty lovely, given the uncertainty right now. e: probably to keep a lid on the books for as long as physically possible, so all their bullshit doesn't spill out if they manage to wrangle control back. Coolwhoami fucked around with this message at 22:35 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 22:28
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Christy Clark is such a monumentally lovely person and leader that I really have no other words.
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May 30, 2017 22:32
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Coolwhoami posted:Not handing over transitional documents is pretty lovely, given the uncertainty right now. the shredding industry is going gangbusters
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May 30, 2017 22:39
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I'll excuse a lot of lovely policies if it gives us PR. Everything else will spring from that.
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May 30, 2017 22:41
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I can't wait to put my first vote choice to some ridiculous party like the "Vancouver Island Independence and Marxism Party" second choice for the "Socialist Party of BC" and then NDP as my 3rd choice.
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May 30, 2017 22:43
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The problem with referendums is The People.
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May 30, 2017 22:57
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It will be interesting to see what tools the province tries to use to hamstring Site C & Kinder Morgan - I have a lot of ties to those projects in my area of work and get to hear stakeholders from KM, the Province etc. discuss it. While I might be biased I really think both of them are easy things to rile the public over with, rather than making substantive reforms. Hopefully ANDP & Federal Liberals find a way to avoid getting crushed by the ensuing lawsuits if any obstructionism does occur.
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May 30, 2017 23:02
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Wilhelm posted:It will be interesting to see what tools the province tries to use to hamstring Site C & Kinder Morgan - I have a lot of ties to those projects in my area of work and get to hear stakeholders from KM, the Province etc. discuss it. While I might be biased I really think both of them are easy things to rile the public over with, rather than making substantive reforms. Hopefully ANDP & Federal Liberals find a way to avoid getting crushed by the ensuing lawsuits if any obstructionism does occur. Site C costs are ballooning so if NDP play if well it will be a fast ferries boondoggle for years that tarnishes the BCLP reputation. But we all know BCLP voters wont care because double standards. No one cares when BCLP is corrupt or blows money because ~hand waves and mutters something about housing equity~ Remember the convention centre? No one does because BCLP are sane financial guardians.
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May 30, 2017 23:14
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CLAM DOWN posted:argh just loving push it through, no referendum, god loving dammit I hate this province sometimes As much as I want proportional representation pushing it through in a minority with the slimmest of one seat margins for support isn't the sort of resounding mandate for changing the provinces electoral system. One thing NZ did that worked quite well was when we switched to MMP there was a second referendum after a couple of election cycles. It helped get it passed on the first one because people knew that if they hated it there was the opportunity to change back after giving it a go. Maybe they should try something like that.
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May 30, 2017 23:16
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mashed_penguin posted:As much as I want proportional representation pushing it through in a minority with the slimmest of one seat margins for support isn't the sort of resounding mandate for changing the provinces electoral system.
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May 30, 2017 23:19
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cowofwar posted:We already did this song and dance like a decade ago. Maybe people have changed their minds in a decade 
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May 30, 2017 23:24
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Wistful of Dollars posted:The problem with referendums is The People. No, it's really the referendum concept itself. Gov'ts use them to force multiple complex issues into a single yes/no question designed to give them the veneer of approval for whatever it is they wanted to do in the first place. It's why they are so popular with dictators
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May 30, 2017 23:26
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mashed_penguin posted:Maybe people have changed their minds in a decade No, people are dumb low info idiots that change their minds in response to cynical self-interested campaigns.
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May 30, 2017 23:27
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The left needs to take the reigns and push as much poo poo through as they can and gently caress the right on the way out even if they don't have a mandate and only have a razor thin majority. Pulling an Obama and trying to take a dubious high road is retarded.
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May 30, 2017 23:29
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I fail to see what Weaver achieved with this deal beyond retaining a thin veneer of power in the legislature, power which if exercised will only force a new election. Dude really is as loving dumb and self-absorbed as everyone has described him. 
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May 30, 2017 23:38
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Tighclops posted:Puff out your chest and tell them fool rear end motherfuckers to suck your dick from the back, comrade. I voted for them in the last election because they were by far the best choice; no way am I going to vote for someone who thinks "War on the Car" is a real thing and whatever the hell the NDP were doing.
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May 30, 2017 23:46
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Um excuse me, Clark won a minority government, this is illegal
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May 30, 2017 23:49
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cowofwar posted:Um excuse me, Clark won a minority government, this is illegal gently caress 👏 Christy 👏 Clark 👏 Forever 👏
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May 30, 2017 23:52
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I do the 24 hrs crossword and sometimes I leaf through it and jesus gently caress is it an abominable lovely rightwing rag. There was some dude sucking Scheer's dick in words yesterday.
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May 30, 2017 23:55
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cowofwar posted:Um excuse me, Clark won a minority government, this is illegal   
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May 31, 2017 00:01
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Rime posted:I fail to see what Weaver achieved with this deal beyond retaining a thin veneer of power in the legislature, power which if exercised will only force a new election. Dude really is as loving dumb and self-absorbed as everyone has described him. They wouldn't force an election? Normal government sponsered bills can fail without any negative reprucussions. Normal opposition bills can pass without any negative reprucussions. They have just agreed to pass confidence issues, and the NDP have basically said that they won't make arbitrary issues confidence issues. So they have an agreement to pass budgets and a couple of other things that were explicitly mentioned. Those are the only things that would force a new election if they failed. Weaver didn't want a coalition. He didn't want cabinet seats. He wants to show the Green Party as an independent power. He's holding the ability to negotiate with both parties to get his agenda passed. T.C. fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 00:01
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So did Clark and Weaver ratfuck BC out of a good government? Jesus is Tim Heidecker a political operative now?
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May 31, 2017 00:04
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Lol
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As a business owner I don't know how I'll survive.
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