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I liked the first FMA anime's ending and didn't even realize it was a made up thing (although I heard it was still written by Arakawa?), and at the time I was under the impression most people liked it too, is it really as hated as DBGT nowadays? 
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The one thing I appreciated about the original FMA ending after watching Brotherhood, was that it kinda cleverly hit a few of the same notes as the eventual canon ending while still being completely different in detail, EG: In both cases (Give or take, it's been a while since I've seen either) Al sacrifices himself for Edward, and Edward in turn sacrifices his alchemy in order to bring back Al and in that way they manage to break the cycle and resolve their character arcs. Just in Brotherhoods case that's more literally what happens while in Anime FMA Ed loses his magic powers by being stuck in Pre-Hitler WW2 and blah blah bad movie resolution. Like, I still think the anime ending was kinda bad, I just thought that was clever of Arakawa to give them something vaguely similar to the real ending in theme without spoiling anything for manga readers.
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Nov 3, 2015 23:24
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Guy A. Person posted:Lol I love that the kind of cliches that fans of other media would call "anime", anime fans refer to as "jrpg". i guess there is always someone lower on the food chain.
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Nov 3, 2015 23:29
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Guy A. Person posted:Lol I love that the kind of cliches that fans of other media would call "anime", anime fans refer to as "jrpg". i guess there is always someone lower on the food chain. Yeah it's probably more like an ouroborus.
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Nov 3, 2015 23:37
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Petiso posted:I liked the first FMA anime's ending and didn't even realize it was a made up thing (although I heard it was still written by Arakawa?), and at the time I was under the impression most people liked it too, is it really as hated as DBGT nowadays? arakawa had absolutely nothing to do with it. You can tell by how relentlessly and pointlessly bleak it is and how it ends up being an hamhanded war on terror allegory (Mizushima loves his politics and it's too bad he's about as good with them as your average political cartoonist) There's always been people who hate the last half of FMA 2003, even before the manga ended. it's just more prevalent now that the alternative is readily available for comparison
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Nov 3, 2015 23:38
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I liked it being a lot bleaker really. Fits better with the whole "What is the value of a human life?" thing the series had going. I can't recall; did the manga have the scene where PTSD Mustang tries to blow his brains out after killing Winry's parents?
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Nov 4, 2015 00:00
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Fabricated posted:I liked it being a lot bleaker really. Fits better with the whole "What is the value of a human life?" thing the series had going. No, cause he didn't do it in the manga.
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Nov 4, 2015 00:05
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the most consistent part of fma is that the best parts are always mustang going nuts
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Nov 4, 2015 00:09
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The FMA manga has an amazing ending dummies
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Nov 4, 2015 00:10
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:No, cause he didn't do it in the manga.  poo poo when I first watched it.Anyway, key image: 
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Nov 4, 2015 00:14
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I'm happy for Ed's legs
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Nov 4, 2015 00:14
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Cake Attack posted:The FMA manga has an amazing ending dummies 
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Nov 4, 2015 00:24
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I liked how they didn't care about what Fritz Lang really looked like.
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Nov 4, 2015 01:00
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Too much action-adventure in my action-adventure, 0/10.
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Nov 4, 2015 02:19
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I stand by my assessment.
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Nov 4, 2015 02:41
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Your assessment does a disservice to the source material's thematic payoffs, tone, and story structure by adopting a new rubric you decided upon yourself. You come off like you're criticizing it for being bad when really it seems like you're criticizing it for not being what you wanted - which is a fair point, one I'm guilty of myself, but also a different one.
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Nov 4, 2015 02:55
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Fabricated posted:I liked it being a lot bleaker really. Fits better with the whole "What is the value of a human life?" thing the series had going. OTOH Arakawa's always been an optimist at heart and the entire work was always building towards a positive conclusion. Bad things happen, but people move on and with effort and cooperation eventually build something better. This is the core of the brothers' character arc, of Mustang's arc, of Scar's arc and pretty much everyone else. The whole thing about finding a new philosophy beyond equivalent exchange is pretty much this. Kyte fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Nov 4, 2015 02:56
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Kyte posted:OTOH Arakawa's always been an optimist at heart and the entire work was always building towards a positive conclusion. Bad things happen, but people move on and with effort and cooperation eventually build something better. This is the core of the brothers' character arc, of Mustang's arc, of Scar's arc and pretty much everyone else. Of course Arakawa is an optimist. She must have faith in the human race as a whole, otherwise she wouldn't have given mankind the ultimate present - FMA.
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Nov 4, 2015 02:58
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To be honest I prefer Silver Spoon to FMA. Like, FMA is very cool and very good but Silver Spoon is  materialized.
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Nov 4, 2015 02:59
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Bad Seafood weren't you going to make an FMA thread.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:00
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Writing off the whole last third of the series as a bad JRPG also kinda undermines a lot of genuinely poignant moments divorced from all that, like Ed and Al's differing ways of reconciling (or not) with their father, Mustang's descent into and return from darkness, Scar's redemption, etc.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:01
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Bad Seafood weren't you going to make an FMA thread.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:02
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Bad Seafood posted:At some point but real life has sidetracked that somewhat. That's cool. I'll just make one and the OP will be FMA is really good, talk about it here.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:04
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The only real bad part of FMA's final arc is that until Wrath shows up the bad guys just kinda get mercilessly stomped by the good guys, and there's not too much tension. It's still really good despite that though, but it feels like something's missing until Bradley arrives.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:06
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Bad Seafood posted:Your assessment does a disservice to the source material's thematic payoffs, tone, and story structure by adopting a new rubric you decided upon yourself. Like BAD is Bambino Secundo. This is more, "meh". Silver Spoon I can't get enough of, the FMA source material just makes me snore. Fabricated fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Nov 4, 2015 03:23
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The most important question is who in the industry is froggy enough to voice Tsuyu, gero?
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Nov 4, 2015 03:29
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The only real bad part of FMA's final arc is that until Wrath shows up the bad guys just kinda get mercilessly stomped by the good guys, and there's not too much tension. It's still really good despite that though, but it feels like something's missing until Bradley arrives. I feel like Bradley is enough of an insane murdermachine that he alone pretty much makes up for the bad guys being a bit outgunned at that stage. Them seeming to have the upper hand at that point nicely sets up how outmatched they are later. There's rarely a really even keel of power between sides for a lot of FMA now I think about it. The bad guys pretty much accomplish their plan uncontested until the Ishvalan and Hoenheim counter circles get going. All the Elric brothers and co really accomplish is finding out what is happening and a gathering of allies. Father's god like power makes him near untouchable for most of the fight too. FMA really gets the primal shounen finale right in that, for all the crazy magic poo poo and philosophy and planning and such, it really comes down to the hero punching the bad guy in the face really loving hard.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:33
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Waffleman_ posted:The most important question is who in the industry is froggy enough to voice Tsuyu, gero? https://youtu.be/y1obeblHgiY?t=19
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Nov 4, 2015 03:35
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Fabricated posted:I tried to find a clip without retarded /a/speak but whatever Yeah, I'd agree that Sucy's voice would be a good Tsuyu.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:45
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Fabricated posted:I tried to find a clip without retarded /a/speak but whatever This is acceptable.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:46
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The actress who played Migi in Parasyte would probably be able to make a good Tsuyu voice. Honestly I'm happy with Bones doing the visuals because even when they have scripts or series that aren't very good (I'm looking at you Captain Earth), they usually come through pretty well with the visuals. I'm less worried about the scripting here because it's a manga adaptation rather than studio original, and it's probably very likely to be a seasonal gig than turning into One Piece or Bleach.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:49
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I'm still waiting for an official My Hero Academia/Little Witch Academia crossover!
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Nov 4, 2015 04:03
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Neeksy posted:The actress who played Migi in Parasyte would probably be able to make a good Tsuyu voice.
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Neeksy posted:The actress who played Migi in Parasyte would probably be able to make a good Tsuyu voice. Paracelsus posted:That would be Aya Hirano, unless you mean the human beatbox girl who did the sound effects.
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Nov 4, 2015 05:05
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So we'll probably see this anime in Spring or Summer next year?
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Nov 4, 2015 05:14
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I'm guessing Summer or Fall.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The only real bad part of FMA's final arc is that until Wrath shows up the bad guys just kinda get mercilessly stomped by the good guys, and there's not too much tension. It's still really good despite that though, but it feels like something's missing until Bradley arrives. imho it's really satisfying. An entire series of being dicked around by endless machinations and everybody finally has a chance to just let lose and loving stomp the enemy into the ground Anyway that Key Art is really good, they look like they captured All Might perfectly. Look at those gorgeous heavy inklines! Can't wait to see how he animates. SwissArmyDruid posted:I'm still waiting for an official My Hero Academia/Little Witch Academia crossover! This and One Punch Man plz Jintor fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Nov 4, 2015 06:16
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Of course Arakawa is an optimist. She must have faith in the human race as a whole, otherwise she wouldn't have given mankind the ultimate present - FMA.
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kinmik posted:A short while after I just started reading FMA, I remember reading a little blurb she wrote in the back of one of the volumes. In order to get a feel for what it was like to have PTSD, she interviewed several World War II vets. Arakawa then admits that it was one of the most harrowing experiences of her life and that she lost ten pounds in a week. I know that you were being a bit facetious, but I just wanted to share that bit of information because it's not left me even after ten years. There's this book called "Senso: The Japanese Remember the Pacific War" that's full of Japanese vets telling their stories. Just reading them is enough to put hair on your chest. "I was on this cargo ship with the rest of my regiment, packed in so tightly that guys just poo poo their pants rather than try and move. Rations were a cup of dried rice a day and 30 minutes of fresh air at night. Anyway, this American sub torpedoed us. Almost everyone either drowned waiting for help to arrive or was turned into a human torch by the burning crude on the surface. Eventually another cargo ship full of soldiers came and rescued about 100 of us, and we kept heading towards our assigned post. Then our rescue ship got torpedoed by a different sub two days later. I was the only survivor of the original regiment of 5,000 men. We never even saw combat." 
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Vengarr posted:There's this book called "Senso: The Japanese Remember the Pacific War" that's full of Japanese vets telling their stories. Just reading them is enough to put hair on your chest. War is poo poo.
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