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Awesome! posted:i wonder if there are steam reviews calling monster train "abandoned" or a "dead game" Surprisingly, I didn't see any, just a few that complained about it being 'too random' or 'too dependent on specific combos'. Plus one that said, simply, 'I don't like it'.
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HopperUK posted:This is absolutely Supergiant's thing though. Like, every game they've done is 'pretty good to great gameplay, *excellent* story/characters/aesthetic'. It's absolutely perfect for me but anyone who doesn't care about that stuff needs to stay completely away. I figured I should try it since it was so universally acclaimed and shares a lot of DNA with games I really enjoy, Supergiant seems to have an amazing talent for making games which look and sound great but somehow lack the element which makes me want to keep playing them after the first few hours. Bastion was exactly the same.
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Aug 13, 2022 16:43
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RabidWeasel posted:I figured I should try it since it was so universally acclaimed and shares a lot of DNA with games I really enjoy, Supergiant seems to have an amazing talent for making games which look and sound great but somehow lack the element which makes me want to keep playing them after the first few hours. Bastion was exactly the same. I have whatever condition you have as well, though I haven't played Hades yet. The other three games I've played from them follow that same trajectory though, where I get a few hours in and then lose all desire to play more.
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Aug 13, 2022 17:19
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Eh, Hades is miles better than their previous stuff (Pyre set a low bar tbqh). I really enjoyed Bastion back in the day, and decided to replay it for nostalgia's sake but couldn't get very far, was a serious step down. Hades has it's 'overwhelming positive' thing on Steam for a reason, it's very polished and appeals to a wide rage of people. You'll know if you'd like it long before Steam's 2 hour demo period is up, pretty much as soon as you get your first death.
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Aug 13, 2022 17:30
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I only played 80 minutes of Cult of the Lamb, and my impressions is ... that is a good game. Cool concept and theme, polished, great visual style. Good game, not great, mind you. I think the reasons some people are loving it (instead of liking it) is fairly simple : it has lots of progression bars! Both explicit and implicit. You level up your followers, you level up yourself with faith, you level up your base and get new buildings, you accumulate more resources, you increase the total amount of followers, etc, etc.
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Aug 13, 2022 17:40
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I ended up refunding it but will probably buy it in 2 years when it hits bargin bin or something. Definitely don't think it's like a trash game or anything but I feel like the devs were split between wanting to make a cult simulator and a hades clone and kind of made a mediocre version of both. I like the concept alot though, I just wish it was a bit better.
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Aug 13, 2022 17:45
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2100010/Breakthrough/ Hopeful hopes for this one on the action'ish front as generally singular vision efforts remain a rarity still---even with Isaac, Gungeon, etc towering so boldly folks still keep endeavoring Beyond.
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Aug 13, 2022 18:00
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Why did they change/remove so many things from dungeon crawl stone soup? wtf
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Aug 13, 2022 18:15
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Prism posted:Plus one that said, simply, 'I don't like it'. Probably annoying if you're the developer but imo that's fine for user reviews  There's some extremely polished games that just don't feel good to play imo, like I've played like 4 hours of Enter the Gungeon but would probably need to play at least another 8 to accurately articulate why I hate playing it beyond "I don't like it."
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I just want more Monster Train. 
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Jack Trades posted:Speaking of good rear end games that suffer because of their metaprogression. I picked up Dead Cells again and got hooked on it again because there's so much interesting content in there but I'm having some problems at BC2, the lack of full flask refills is really hurting me. A few good points raised already, here are a few more: if what's getting you is attrition from one or two occasional hits but you can parry most enemies 90% of the time, going survival with the heal-on-parry mutation will keep you topped up pretty well. If it's more about tough enemy clusterings that drop you from full to dead, remember to use your powers/grenades there and also consider trying some crossbow runs - the heavy crossbow will one-shot drat near anything, explosive with good modifiers will do the same for a slightly smaller range of stuff. Also, if you've been playing for a while and have unlocked a ton of garbage you hate using, remember that custom games exist and don't lock you out of anything as long as you've got 20+ total items enabled for the drop pool. I absolutely would not have been able to get my BC5 win with every weapon in the game unlocked, no chance. edit: I was about to add the thing about making sure you only invest in a single backup stat for legendary scaling instead of spreading for more health, but then I remembered the legendary revamp is in now. I still need to check that out.
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Jack Trades posted:I just want more Monster Train. My brother of the covenant, same.
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Orc Priest posted:Why did they change/remove so many things from dungeon crawl stone soup? wtf username post combo
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Aug 13, 2022 19:10
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DCSS is trailblazing RaaS (Roguelikes as a Service).
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Have you heard about the new hotness? They call it "metaregression."
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I ended up refunding it but will probably buy it in 2 years when it hits bargin bin or something. Definitely don't think it's like a trash game or anything but I feel like the devs were split between wanting to make a cult simulator and a hades clone and kind of made a mediocre version of both. I like the concept alot though, I just wish it was a bit better. drat it yeah. Just beat the world 2 boss, but I have every single thing at the cult unlocked which has killed my will to play. I cant spend enough time dungeoning that I want and I want way more progression for the cult and weapons/curses so I dont max it out halfway through the game. It feels early access without saying it. But I do adore the vibe and general feel, there's just not enough TheWorldsaStage fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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Real answer though is that the dcss dev team has just been veering towards a hardline minimalism where any mechanic or feature they deem abusable, redundant, or uninteresting goes the way of the dodo eventually. Sometimes they replace it with something new and exciting, sometimes they don't, and there's been a lot of arguing about it. Eventually goons made their own fork, Gooncrawl, that re-added some of the more beloved cut stuff while putting in new content (more info in the crawl thread here) but it doesn't look like it's being maintained anymore; it possibly got too hard to keep up with an increasingly divergent upstream.
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Wittgen posted:Have you heard about the new hotness? They call it "metaregression." there is a game like this, I can't remember the name, you start out as the full power hero and each level you get weaker
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victrix posted:there is a game like this, I can't remember the name, you start out as the full power hero and each level you get weaker Wouldn't that be normal regression? Metaregression would be something that make you weaker at the start of each subsequent run.
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Aug 13, 2022 20:06
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victrix posted:there is a game like this, I can't remember the name, you start out as the full power hero and each level you get weaker Hero must die again?
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I feel like sometimes games with item pool based metaprogression like Binding of Isaac can be this, although it's been mitigated a little bit since they introduced item quality as a mechanic. The more you unlock, the more crappy items there are in the pool, and the less odds you get your really good items such as 20/20, magic mushroom, ipecac, and so on.
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huh no interesting, I want to say it was more lofi, but it's something I saw in passing went "sounds neat I guess" and didn't touch
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Jack Trades posted:Wouldn't that be normal regression? but you regress as you progress through the game, so it's actually just ession
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victrix posted:huh no interesting, I want to say it was more lofi, but it's something I saw in passing went "sounds neat I guess" and didn't touch
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Kvlt! posted:but you regress as you progress through the game, so it's actually just ession I regress with each passing day in this mortal coil so metaregression is just built in.
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Aug 13, 2022 20:40
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A Strange Aeon posted:I have whatever condition you have as well, though I haven't played Hades yet. The other three games I've played from them follow that same trajectory though, where I get a few hours in and then lose all desire to play more. Same. I wanted to like Hades but once I got far enough in to kinda grok how grindy Titan's Blood and upgrading weapons so that they're actually fun and/or usable would be I just immediately noped out. All desire gone.
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TheWorldsaStage posted:drat it yeah. Just beat the world 2 boss, but I have every single thing at the cult unlocked which has killed my will to play. I cant spend enough time dungeoning that I want and I want way more progression for the cult and weapons/curses so I dont max it out halfway through the game. This is interesting. I'm halfway through the 3rd world and I still have over half of the tech tree to unlock. I feel like I'd have to sit at home for a long time to accrue enough resources to unlock everything.
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SettingSun posted:This is interesting. I'm halfway through the 3rd world and I still have over half of the tech tree to unlock. I feel like I'd have to sit at home for a long time to accrue enough resources to unlock everything. Ditto on this. You'd need to be sitting around waiting WAY more than is sensible to have literally everything unlocked by time you're done with boss 2.
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yeah the game basically expects you to go out into a dungeon around once per day, maybe once in a while skipping to go fish or something
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If it's really close to night I'll let the day tick over so I can perform the daily tasks before I crusade but otherwise I can't say I ever hung out in the enclave for an entire day.
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Seems like I'm getting bugs in Cult that make it so I can't assign someone to the Healing Bay and my lumberyard and stone mine don't do anything. Just restarted but nothing. Can't really get enough lumber.
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Yeah full disclosure there are definitely a bunch of weird goofy bugs still hanging around but I haven't run into any (the one I thought was one earlier was just my lumber yard expiring) personally. I kinda solved my lumber problem by building 3 lumber yards, and always taking the double resources tarot card.
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I also can't send out missionaries now. That was going to help with the lumber that I'm not getting. This isn't going well now... E: Hmm now the healing and missionary is working without me doing anything. Are there in game requirements that just hadn't triggered? I had used them before at some point. No mine or lumber activity though. KingKapalone fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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RabidWeasel posted:I figured I should try it since it was so universally acclaimed and shares a lot of DNA with games I really enjoy, Supergiant seems to have an amazing talent for making games which look and sound great but somehow lack the element which makes me want to keep playing them after the first few hours. Bastion was exactly the same. Agreed. I liked everything about Hades except playing it.
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KingKapalone posted:E: Hmm now the healing and missionary is working without me doing anything. Are there in game requirements that just hadn't triggered? I had used them before at some point. No mine or lumber activity though.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2100010/Breakthrough/ Hopeful hopes for this one on the action'ish front as generally singular vision efforts remain a rarity still---even with Isaac, Gungeon, etc towering so boldly folks still keep endeavoring Beyond. poo poo, I'll bite for $6. Always kind of a thrill buying a game with zero reviews too
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Burt Gherkin posted:I haven't been keeping up with the thread btw. What's the consensus on lamb? Worth buying? I still haven't played hades. Just reluctant for some reason. I like it a ton, but I also don’t mind that it’s sort of a lite version of two genres stuck together (in a way where they feed off one another well).
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Captain Oblivious posted:upgrading weapons so that they're actually fun and/or usable 
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Jedit posted:Agreed. I liked everything about Hades except playing it. If Hades had a "both you and enemies die 50% faster" option I would probably still be playing it.
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GetDunked posted:Real answer though is that the dcss dev team has just been veering towards a hardline minimalism where any mechanic or feature they deem abusable, redundant, or uninteresting goes the way of the dodo eventually. Sometimes they replace it with something new and exciting, sometimes they don't, and there's been a lot of arguing about it. Eventually goons made their own fork, Gooncrawl, that re-added some of the more beloved cut stuff while putting in new content (more info in the crawl thread here) but it doesn't look like it's being maintained anymore; it possibly got too hard to keep up with an increasingly divergent upstream. No, Gooncrawl was being maintained by one person and they decided it was in a good spot and they were busy, so it was shelved. I’m trying to learn how to do all that work to merge some changes and make some updates because it’s been a few years, but this has been an extraordinarily busy year. Which is to say, Gooncrawl is great and can be played on webtiles, everyone should go splat some disciples of Beogh today!
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