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Zzr posted:What does their crytek team does now ? Cause if I followed well, they took cryengine at first, then stimperized it into starengine, then ditched it for lumberyard, but this one is worked on by amazon. Does the crytek team tweaks it and will have problems each time amazon upgrade lumberyad, or are they just out of work ? I don't think there's one StarEngine, there's just different forks for the PU, Hangar, Star Marine and that uh Social module. Oh, also SQ42, unless they ditched that one. Which of them are (is?) still getting updated is an open question, trying to hack LumberEngine features into playing nice with the Stimpire Sim won't be much help I think My guess is, of the engine developers, 20% stick to doing xml hacks, 15% are doing lovely code that another 25% are trying to revert/fix and the rest are furiously working on their resumés
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May 31, 2017 13:24
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To be fair changing to Lumberyard did mean that they put a new Lumberyard logo on the loading screens, so in that respect it brought about the biggest change to the game since 2013
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May 31, 2017 13:25
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TheAgent posted:that broken helmet has more polys in it than most character models lol It's for the pre-rendered scene when #character is suddenly snatched away while wearing the explorer suit. I'm guessing while exploring and coming across something that they weren't supposed to.
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May 31, 2017 14:38
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Hav posted:It's for the pre-rendered scene when #character is suddenly snatched away while wearing the explorer suit. It's actually for the pre rendered cafeteria scene where a commando drops a bowl of Big Bennies on a helmet by accident, causing hilarity and a bit of comic relief in the harsh reality of space and space
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May 31, 2017 14:42
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peter gabriel posted:It's actually for the pre rendered cafeteria scene where a commando drops a bowl of Big Bennies on a helmet by accident, causing hilarity and a bit of comic relief in the harsh reality of space and space "That's so Eckhart!"
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May 31, 2017 14:44
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"MoMA Told Me" Will you have LTI with your Aegis? Or a collar with your Cutlass? What are these crazy questions That they're asking of me This is the craziest funding That there ever could be Open up the store sucka Let's browse some zero-g chariots MoMA told me not to fund MoMA told me not to fund That ain't the way to have fun Open up the store Get some cash in this game I think I'm almost choking from The knockoff prerendered worm And that bonfire of money you're feeding 'Bout to scare me half to death Oh, don't turn on the game 'Cause I don't want to see MoMA told me not to run 2.6.2 MoMA told me not to run 2.6.2 That ain't the way to have fun That ain't the way to have fun, son The spaceships are blasting, Some goons flying away with rings I'm looking at my wife She's halfway out the door I seen so many things I ain't never seen before I don't know what it is But I don't wanna see no more MoMA told me not to refund MoMA told me not to refund He said, that ain't the way to have fun, son That ain't the way to have fun, MoMA told me, MoMA told me, MoMA told me Told me, told me, That ain't the way to have fun, no That ain't the way to have fun, son To the tune of Mama told me not to come (1970) Admiral Snackbar posted:Day after day, day after day, 
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May 31, 2017 14:49
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Tippis posted:The only real detail they've provided was Ben Perry's description over on FDev: it was a change from CryEngine 3.8 to the exact same part in the Lumberyard code history. So it wasn't an engine change since nothing actually changed — it's just the license on the exact same code changed, and they got a couple of new libraries that they could start to include. This is actually what I don't get; it should actually be fairly easy to bring everything up to current _unless_ those hacks they made were to the core, rather than just overloading. I'm thinking that they have a fuckton of bailing wire in there holding together the concept of two different physics models. If it's literally just rubbing Amazon stink on it, I think that lends weight to the idea that the 'schedule' and the newfound transparency is an attempt to court outside suitors if not the Amazon money itself. It hit a $1000 a share the other day.
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May 31, 2017 14:54
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spacetoaster posted:Imagine real life as an RPG. It's linear, there's no moving back time at all. No save points. The stuff you face in life, getting a job, getting a girlfriend, getting sex etc. can all be thought of as encounters or bosses or whatever. Posting In the past, but seriously, muscle fixes everything. Why can't a 20 year old incel guy just work out and get fit? It's not hard. And when you're 20 you can get rocking in a year.'s time. I have zero sympathy for losers. If you're poo poo sucks then just change it. Now that doesn't work in Syria or whatever, but it certainly works for some American with an internet connection. Good post, btw. I had heard incel here and there but didn't know what it meant.
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May 31, 2017 14:54
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The Titanic posted:CIG seems to be that company made up of CS dropouts who wanted to make a game up until they realized programming is actually hard, and dropped out. And that's how I became an EE!
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May 31, 2017 14:59
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peter gabriel posted:It's actually for the pre rendered cafeteria scene where a commando drops a bowl of Big Bennies on a helmet by accident, causing hilarity and a bit of comic relief in the harsh reality of space and space And it all only took 25 takes to get the mocap down! They used real imported beef noodle bowls from Niu Ba Ba for maximum fidelity!
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May 31, 2017 15:05
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Richie Stardust posted:Posting In the past, but seriously, muscle fixes everything. Why can't a 20 year old incel guy just work out and get fit? It's not hard. Before the internet, you literally had to get on with the people around you, rather than the people you would prefer to be around. After the internet arrived, there was a brief moment of peace before AOL threw up its gateway and allowed the campervans in. After a fairly short while, the edgiest moved to places like Fark and SA; mainly drawn around the concept that the internet was fast becoming awful. Then the real sinks started with poo poo like stormfront. All of a sudden, you could find communities where people supported whatever drat fool loving agenda people could come up with, even subverting the fairly normal programming that you receive when you're a toddler to not bite, don't steal and sharing is better than being a little rear end in a top hat. Your 20 year old incel was a 14 year old boy that fell in with people that had a similar idea on how the world was geared against them. But rather than band together for mutual protection, it becomes a grudging rejection of society for being unfair - this is the really passive bit. MRA's piss me off because there's a huge passive voice in attempting to reduce women to a cost-benefit analysis that they could immediately change by being more active, showering and putting down the control pad. The problem is that some of this poo poo isn't real, but people taking Poe's law as far as they can and _finding_ people who actually support this stuff for the lulz or realz. Apols for the wall.
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May 31, 2017 15:07
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So, question. Of all the things Amazon could have done to start getting into gaming, why make a mod of CryEngine? Was it just the cheapest thing available, and the folks in charge assumed that an engine attached to a failing company wouldn't be rear end? I realize engine creation is expensive and whatever, but if you're going to spend a ton of money to break into the gaming industry wouldn't that be the place to spend your money?
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May 31, 2017 15:21
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Hav posted:"That's so Eckhart!" I think you guys are putting more effort into the script than CIG. Take a step back and consider charging for your posts.
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May 31, 2017 15:28
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Pilz posted:So, question. Of all the things Amazon could have done to start getting into gaming, why make a mod of CryEngine? Was it just the cheapest thing available, and the folks in charge assumed that an engine attached to a failing company wouldn't be rear end? I realize engine creation is expensive and whatever, but if you're going to spend a ton of money to break into the gaming industry wouldn't that be the place to spend your money? Yes. Or rather they started with cryengine and they've been iterating ever since on something that hits 80% of the use-cases that you'd want to create a game, but SC isn't apparently using any of that. There's a significant amount of smoke around why they simply forklifted onto a particular commit point on the tree and stayed there. Amazon's more interested in the infrastructure business that comes from the game engine, so they've effectively bought profit by supplying something that already _works_, even if it doesn't set the world on fire. Triple A is fast becoming overtaken by a whole world of mediocre and cheap software that is essentially a ruleset, art assets and folio jammed into an engine. They're going to iterate and expand lumberyard in the same way that they branched out from the original EC2, and you do that from a solid foundation rather than reinventing the wheel, even if it is lovely and made up of 64 sided poly.
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Pilz posted:So, question. Of all the things Amazon could have done to start getting into gaming, why make a mod of CryEngine? Was it just the cheapest thing available, and the folks in charge assumed that an engine attached to a failing company wouldn't be rear end? I realize engine creation is expensive and whatever, but if you're going to spend a ton of money to break into the gaming industry wouldn't that be the place to spend your money? well, I think breaking into the industry is only a secondary goal, with the primary one being to get more people in the Amazon ecosystem. i don't know the details, but engine creation must be prohibitive in some way - whether expensive or something else entirely - because even in this golden era of gaming there's really only a handful of them around I suspect they went with CryEngine for the same reason CryEngine was even built - it's easy to make pretty things
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May 31, 2017 15:33
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Cryengine isn't bad as long as you are using it for a very particular use (FPS). What made Crytek go under was that they were trying to be a big AAA developer to go with the engine and a few badly sold AAA will put any company into a deathspiral very quick. e- Developing an engine can be expensive but it doesn't have to be. A huge amount of the cost of making an engine for other people is making sure other people can use it. That takes a substantial amount of manhours to document and translate into tens of languages. It takes a lot of people to maintain the customer support needed for people to keep using it. And then the market has evolved so that middleware tools are free and the companies get royalties base on sales which means it could be years before you see ROI. Its just not feasible for most companies Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 15:39 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 15:35
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Downtime at work: "Spergman" Didn't know what time it was the lights were low I read a post of a redditor Some cat was layin' down some get-it-on game theory, he did Then the bad post did seem to fade Came back as a tweet on a wave of phase That were no gamer that was a crazy shitizen [Chorus:] There's a spergman waiting for a game He'd like to go and play it But its state is just a shame There's a spergman waiting for a game He's told us not to spread FUD 'Cause he thinks it's not a dud He told me: Let the jpegs blind you Let the jpegs bind you Let all the jpegs boogie I had to show someone so I picked on you Hey, that's far out so you read him too! Switch on the SA We may see it quoted on page two Look at the tracker I can see his plight If we do tease him he may pledge tonight Don't tell his wife or she'll get him locked up in fright [Chorus x2]
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May 31, 2017 15:55
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JugbandDude posted:I think you guys are putting more effort into the script than CIG. Take a step back and consider charging for your posts. Even more Star Citizen like; charge for a JPG of your post but warn people it could be refactored and you can't actually read it yet.
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May 31, 2017 16:13
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Hav posted:This is actually what I don't get; it should actually be fairly easy to bring everything up to current _unless_ those hacks they made were to the core, rather than just overloading. I'm thinking that they have a fuckton of bailing wire in there holding together the concept of two different physics models. Still less than half a Bitcoin 
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May 31, 2017 16:13
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Hav posted:Before the internet, you literally had to get on with the people around you, rather than the people you would prefer to be around. After the internet arrived, there was a brief moment of peace before AOL threw up its gateway and allowed the campervans in. You have illuminated me. I grew up in East Houston, in Denver Harbor. My friends Jose, Josue, and Juan and I played pen and paper games in secret like we were gay Al Qaeda drug dealers. When we got a dialup connection we played MUDs. Fast forward, and I joined the Army, made some money, travelled the world, but every time I went into a gaming store in any city for Friday Night Magic or to check out rule books, or to try and meet cool guys with similar interests, I would one hundred percent of the time face hostility. Not like karate fight hostility, but more like a condescending demeanor with eye rolls and cold hard dickishness. It was like I was a loving cop showing up to a park dominos game. Those little fucks thought I was the reason that the world was unfair. Real talk, there were times when being left out affected my feels. But I didn't start a hate group over it so scrod. To be fair it wasn't everyone I met. I made a lot of friends and played a lot of games, it was just every store had a sizeable population that hated me on sight.
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May 31, 2017 16:14
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kill all beautiful people, hail kovfefe
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/869858333477523458 Troll Level: President I aspire to troll the entire world to this level one day e: I wonder if he's the cuntiflas, or whatever, guy? DarkRefreshment fucked around with this message at 18:12 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 16:42
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TheAgent posted:oh limit theory...the game that keeps sending its developer into wild tailspins of depression and self loathing I don't follow it anymore because the lone dev seems to have gone Chris lite. Sit in development hell, throw out some irrelevant news or technical bullshit to kickstarter backers once or twice a year between mental breakdowns. Same kind of re-invent the wheel mentality half the time.
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Virtual Captain posted:I don't follow it anymore because the lone dev seems to have gone Chris lite. Sit in development hell, throw out some irrelevant news or technical bullshit to kickstarter backers once or twice a year between mental breakdowns. Same kind of re-invent the wheel mentality half the time. quote:If you're curious about the state of LT and have been out of the loop for a significant period of time, Josh disappeared for a while due to a burnout, then came back for a while longer, then disappeared again because he was frustrated with getting the game to run at over 5 frames per second. Now that problem is fixed and game development is continuing normally, although he's having to rebuild it in C and Lua to get it to run at a high framerate. (His target is 60 FPS and so far, he's hitting it easily.) He demo'd it at PAX South a few months ago, and several other smaller places since. Beta isn't out yet, but we're steadily working our way in that direction. He's hired me as his community manager, and is looking to hire an intern in the near future to help with some of the code. Things are shaping up. C? Like integer C? And Lua? Richie Stardust posted:I grew up in East Houston, in Denver Harbor. My friends Jose, Josue, and Juan and I played pen and paper games in secret like we were gay Al Qaeda drug dealers. Same generation, although we didn't quite have the same 'you're worshipping the devil in secret' in the United Kingdom, and we managed to talk some girls into playing Call of Cthulhu, so it was _all good_. But I'll level with you, I brushed the MRA during a spell when I wasn't quite hitting on all cylinders, but a good dose of exercise and _getting the gently caress out of my own head_ worked wonders. Hav fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 17:01
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The truest thing CRobberts has said was the whole "Puts us at 3 years, anything more starts to get stale" statement. Every few months a new space game comes out that is fully functional and fun while every few months you get a patch for SC that makes it buggier and no closer to actual release.
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May 31, 2017 17:21
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To be fair to the scam that is cloud imperium games I fully believe they can and will release a game eventually , it's merely a question of how bad it is and how much longer they can continue to kick the development can down the road until they're forced to release something or Chris loses his swanky office But its like putting 100 bens into a room with 100 copies of the entire beach body DVD set. Eventually at least 1 Ben will come out ready to walk onto the set of bay watch ... Just through sheer force of amount of people involved and the supposed bank roll they have they simply can't NOT poo poo something out Which is what most of the whales are usually saying , they just forgot to include that it will probably be a horrible fmv movie game presented by Chris Roberts a Chris Roberts game from the mind that brought you Chris Roberts
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Sappo569 posted:I fully believe they can and will release a game eventually , it's merely a question of how bad it is...
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Sappo569 posted:But its like putting 100 bens into a room with 100 copies of the entire beach body DVD set. Eventually at least 1 Ben will come out ready to walk onto the set of bay watch ... Wrong, because the DVD machine was traded in for a Betamax player to watch Wing Commander production videos.
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I used to be in that camp - that this is more a case of incompetence than scam, and that one day something will be poo poo out But I dunno anymore. More and more I think this is closer to a Duke Nukem Forever situation - that was also a game that everyone just assumed would have to come out eventually, and while it did eventually release it was really in name only and had nothing to do with the original title announced in the 90s I think a "Star Citizen" will eventually release, but I honestly don't think it'll be by CIG as we know it today e: 
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 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem It's infinite monkey theorum in action except with coding. Whales are adding infinite money to the mix making the theory more likely quote:Even if every proton in the observable universe were a e: Now with more monkey which really needs CR's head photoshopped on it DarkRefreshment fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 17:53
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Sappo569 posted:I fully believe they can and will release a game eventually , it's merely a question of how bad it is and how much longer they can continue to kick the development can down the road until they're forced to release something or Chris loses his swanky office This needs some minor updates: 
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Virtual Captain posted:This needs some minor updates: We're smack-dab in the middle of "Cashflow Issues" and "Chump Run"
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Jobbo_Fett posted:We're smack-dab in the middle of "Cashflow Issues" and "Chump Run" Our cash reserves are healthy CIG has a war chest for legal battles We don't need anymore money to fund the game , But every extra dollar means we can give you a richer game experience Buy this new ship All things we've heard many times , which one is true ?
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Long Journey Home launched today, to mixed reviews in Steam. http://store.steampowered.com/app/366910/The_Long_Journey_Home/ I want to watch some youtube videos later when I'm off work.
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DarkRefreshment posted:
but does the theorem account for a clueless boss monkey that goes around demanding the typerwriters themselves to be refactored every 6 months?
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Elite Dangerous: https://imgur.com/gallery/WaU0l 
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Richie Stardust posted:You have illuminated me. I grew up in East Houston, in Denver Harbor. My friends Jose, Josue, and Juan and I played pen and paper games in secret like we were gay Al Qaeda drug dealers. When we got a dialup connection we played MUDs. Fast forward, and I joined the Army, made some money, travelled the world, but every time I went into a gaming store in any city for Friday Night Magic or to check out rule books, or to try and meet cool guys with similar interests, I would one hundred percent of the time face hostility. Not like karate fight hostility, but more like a condescending demeanor with eye rolls and cold hard dickishness. It was like I was a loving cop showing up to a park dominos game. Those little fucks thought I was the reason that the world was unfair. Real talk, there were times when being left out affected my feels. But I didn't start a hate group over it so scrod. If your partner has the right sort of sense of humor take her with you next time to maximize the comedy outrage.
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