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Zeroisanumber posted:Nah, homes. They were convicted in juvenile court, so their records are wiped when they turn 18. They'll graduate and go to college (or wherever they would've gone) once they get out.
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Aufzug Taube! posted:I also listened to Bill Cunningham I think it was. I had never heard of him before, and he would actually introduce himself as "Bill Cunningham the Great American" Once, out of morbid curiosity I decided to check up on Cunningham's "Great American" status to see what the story was behind it. As far as I can tell he has done absolutely nothing to deserve it. No public service. No military service. No heroic or selfless act worth mentioning on a wikipedia page. Just a self-aggrandizing callsign bestowed to himself by himself (or maybe Mark Levin, they seem to be good buddies). He's a Great American because he hosts a second-tier talk radio show that airs nationally around 11PM on Sundays, and is sometimes invited on Sean Hannity's show to lick that man's boots while they call each other Great Americans.
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Fox News: Too liberal for some Tea Party supporters. You've created a beast, Fox. quote:"The more I looked at it, I have come to the conclusion that Fox is not as fair and balanced as I thought. They shade the truth also." 
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Mar 24, 2013 05:15
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I am very curious what monstrosity is going to rise from the ashes of modern conservatism after they have finished destroying themselves.
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Mar 24, 2013 05:21
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Hopefully a suicide cult.
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Mar 24, 2013 05:23
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I am very curious what monstrosity is going to rise from the ashes of modern conservatism after they have finished destroying themselves. A popular, watered down version of Libertarianism. The transition has already begun.
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Mar 24, 2013 05:34
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Holy poo poo, that Bhengazi-Truth website linked in the article. I have no words.quote:Today marks the first day of the 2nd TEA PARTY FOX NEWS BOYCOTT. Last night alone FOX earned this boycott, IMO, by ignoring Benghazi all day and then after 10:00 PM, when prime-time viewer numbers are lowest, gave about 2 minutes to Benghazi around 10:30 PM, and offered no new information at all, just a complaining session between Greta Van Susteren and Senator Lindsey Graham about how Obama was being uncooperative. Did Walter Cronkite mention Watergate only on the 11:00 news once a week and then only for 15 seconds?
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Typical Pubbie posted:A popular, watered down version of Libertarianism. The transition has already begun. They're going to take the hatred for gays and redouble the hatred towards poor people. Most of the other enemies will be the same, but hated for more money-oriented reasons.
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Mar 24, 2013 08:20
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Dr Christmas posted:They're going to take the hatred for gays and redouble the hatred towards poor people. Most of the other enemies will be the same, but hated for more money-oriented reasons. I have a hard time seeing this. The economic argument to libertarianism (in my opinion) appeals to the greedy and stupid. The 90s tech bubble, and the 2000's real estate bubble created alot of fake wealth or at lest the impression of it, and that if you were smart (not lucky) you could take part in the prosperity unlike those lazy stupid poors. As a new generation of college graduates cant find the opportunities their parents had, or were told growing up. People choking on student dept etc. I doubt they can join the "gently caress you got mine club" cause they dont have anything to begin with. I can understand the religious right being more easily duped. They can have their faith paint a different view of the world. But given the increase in the acceptance of homosexuality among young people and a greater rejection of dogma, I dont see how they can have a major shape in a new party, hell members of the GOP are already jumping ship on Gay Marriage. Given their defeat the last few elections I wouldn't be surprised if they retreated from politics. The right wing media's target demographic is Religious right, Neocons, and libertarians. Lose the Religious right and finally have the neocons and libertarians turn on eachother creating schism. That would spill over to the Right Wing media..causing it to split into two camps fighting with each other...oh god that sounds great imagine rush and beck at odds with eachother. Hell fox news wouldnt even have to book token liberals it can just be conservative vs super conservative.
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Ups_rail posted:As a new generation of college graduates cant find the opportunities their parents had, or were told growing up. People choking on student dept etc. I doubt they can join the "gently caress you got mine club" cause they dont have anything to begin with. Libertarianism appeals directly to these people by telling them that the reason they don't have a job is because of all the government regulation and red tape. Student debt is a plot by the government to make you dependent. Inflation drives up the cost of tuition. The government threatens to arrest you for smoking pot; Libertarians just want everyone to be left alone. etc.
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Mar 24, 2013 15:11
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Crasscrab posted:Fox News: Too liberal for some Tea Party supporters. Perhaps the guy that owns Fox News will start an even more right-wing news network that regularly criticises even Fox News. If the demographic's there, hey, why not? The commercials will be 100% gold investment pitches, Lifelock ads, and disaster survival supplies. Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Mar 24, 2013 |
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Mar 24, 2013 19:58
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Monkey Fracas posted:
Pretty sure that's already the bulk of Fox News' current ad regimen, along with reverse mortgages and home health medical supplies.
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Mar 24, 2013 20:10
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watt par posted:Pretty sure that's already the bulk of Fox News' current ad regimen, along with reverse mortgages and home health medical supplies. Current TV and left wing radio ads are exactly the same. I'm not sure what it is about the particular demographic of "people who want to hear political opinions", regardless of their slant, that makes this the case though.
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Mar 24, 2013 20:37
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BiggerBoat posted:Current TV and left wing radio ads are exactly the same. I'm not sure what it is about the particular demographic of "people who want to hear political opinions", regardless of their slant, that makes this the case though. Listening with intent, I suppose.
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Mar 24, 2013 20:43
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BiggerBoat posted:Current TV and left wing radio ads are exactly the same. I'm not sure what it is about the particular demographic of "people who want to hear political opinions", regardless of their slant, that makes this the case though. They old. Seriously, look up cable news ratings for any given day and note the difference between the 25-54 and 35-64 demos. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Mar 24, 2013 |
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Mar 24, 2013 21:08
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Crasscrab posted:Fox News: Too liberal for some Tea Party supporters. It's pretty interesting that they describe cutting themselves off from Fox News as going into "withdrawal." They can get better-quality news from plenty of non-polarizing news sources. What they CAN'T get from, say, NPR or the BBC is the self-righteous high that comes with the rage and smug sense of superiority that comes with Fox. That poo poo is basically emotional heroin. If they're feeling antsy about going into withdrawal from Fox, it's because they're not getting their daily hit of histronic, sneering fury.
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Mar 24, 2013 23:19
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ShadowCatboy posted:It's pretty interesting that they describe cutting themselves off from Fox News as going into "withdrawal." They can get better-quality news from plenty of non-polarizing news sources. What they CAN'T get from, say, NPR or the BBC is the self-righteous high that comes with the rage and smug sense of superiority that comes with Fox. That poo poo is basically emotional heroin. For some reason this reminds me of o'reily complaining that people didn't love his "fiery sermon" when he was outright screaming invectives at some congressman. I had hoped it was people realizing that this self-righteous bullshit does not belong in the news and that perhaps  ratings were tanking so they tried something stupid to get a quick increase.
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ShadowCatboy posted:If they're feeling antsy about going into withdrawal from Fox, it's because they're not getting their daily hit of histronic, sneering fury. Not so much the sneering fury as it is the constant validation and assurance that they're okay for who they are.
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Mar 24, 2013 23:39
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watt par posted:They old. Huh. As a 45 year old white male, maybe they're right. I find the ads equally stupid no matter what I'm listening to but I was wondering more why the advertisers were the same for both types of programming when the message, content and slant couldn't be more opposite. That strikes me as odd. You'd think the ads on, say, Stephanie Miller's show would be aiming for an entirely different audience and demographic than Glen Beck or Sean Hannity's programs. Sort of in the way I see different commercials when I'm watching sports or The Sundance Channel than I do when I watch a cooking show or children's programming. Given the sharp political polarity and world view between someone who watches Bill Press on CurrentTV and someone who watches Fox & Friends on FOX, I'd expect the ads to be different. What I'm saying is, it's not like the difference between people who watch basketball vs. people who watch football. I see beer, car, and sports drink ads regardless of what sports I watch, which makes sense, but knowing what I know about Heinz and Chic-Fil-A boycotts, and the mindset that goes into into that sort of thinking, I'd expect more diversity and a wider difference in the advertising that drives these shows.
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BiggerBoat posted:Huh. As a 45 year old white male, maybe they're right. I find the ads equally stupid no matter what I'm listening to but I was wondering more why the advertisers were the same for both types of programming when the message, content and slant couldn't be more opposite. Yeah I never understood this either. D&Ders like to make fun of the fact that right wing radio has gold, backing up your computer data and other fear based stuff as their advertisers, but the exact same stuff is advertised on a channel like Sirius Left. I thought advertising was supposed to be this scientific endeavor to target demographics, in that context it makes no sense.
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BiggerBoat posted:Huh. As a 45 year old white male, maybe they're right. I find the ads equally stupid no matter what I'm listening to but I was wondering more why the advertisers were the same for both types of programming when the message, content and slant couldn't be more opposite. The following is pure speculation on my part, based on how people in the business have described it to me. I am not actually in the business so it's possible that I've misunderstood something. Essentially there's two different types of ads, there's targeted advertising, such as selling toys during a child's show, and then there's block advertising where airtime is sold in chunks regardless of what the show is about (ie, car insurance commercials during that child's show). Block advertising is the cheapest sort of adtime there is and is used to fill in gaps between the targeted ads. Depending on the show's viewership level greater or lesser amounts of targeted to block advertising occurs. For example a popular sporting event will have a lot more targeted advertising than block, whereas a radio talk show will have more block than targeted (smaller audience=cheaper adtime). Likely what happens is that the advertisers buying time on Rush's show are also buying block advertising on other talkshows, without really looking into (or caring) whether those other shows are their actual target audience. Block ads are cheaper and what they've lost in potential sales they gained back in savings. If I recall correctly both Stephanie Miller and Rush are broadcast on Clear Channel stations, anyone buying block advertising from Clear Channel will probably have their ads run on both shows.
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It's probably just that people who care deeply about politics are more like each other than they are unlike other demographics, even accounting for party splits. A socialist and a libertarian have more in common with each other than with an apolitical football fan.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's probably just that people who care deeply about politics are more like each other than they are unlike other demographics, even accounting for party splits. That too. Guys who are absolutely certain that Society is about to fall apart because The Gays are getting married and guys who think Society is going to fall apart because of Climate Change will destroy everything are both likely to buy gold*. And who doesn't occasionally need to order flowers in a hurry from 1-800-Flowers? *if they're stupid.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's probably just that people who care deeply about politics are more like each other than they are unlike other demographics, even accounting for party splits. I doubt it. Why do you think that? Apolitical football fans like beer, titties, violence, wings, nachos, whatever city they're from and money. Also football. I think what PlatedLizard said makes more sense, having worked in advertising a little bit. I just remember being weirded out listening to Stephanie Miller's show and suddenly hearing Glen Beck screaming at me about gold during the commercials, when the entire idea of streaming Miller or Thom Hartman was to not have to hear Glen Beck.
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Mar 25, 2013 00:30
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Good to see retirement hasn't kept Boortz from being an angry bitter man.
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ShadowCatboy posted:It's pretty interesting that they describe cutting themselves off from Fox News as going into "withdrawal." They can get better-quality news from plenty of non-polarizing news sources. What they CAN'T get from, say, NPR or the BBC is the self-righteous high that comes with the rage and smug sense of superiority that comes with Fox. That poo poo is basically emotional heroin. It's pretty sad how spot-on this is. Fox News is running out of quality dope, since the pipeline for new Benghazi and birther nonsense has all but dried up completely. Therefore, Fox's clients are threatening to switch to another dealer (One America network) who's promising much stronger smack to keep them going. They aren't actually interested in being informed at all. They just want their beliefs and prejudices validated and their egos stroked on a constant basis. They're boycotting their primary news network because it isn't telling them what they want to hear. Think about that.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Perhaps the guy that owns Fox News will start an even more right-wing news network that regularly criticises even Fox News. If the demographic's there, hey, why not? They already have that network. It's called Fox Business. It's where Andrew Napolitano hangs out.
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^^^^ I still wonder if the moment Fox went off the deep end was this election. The fact their propaganda failed to reflect reality, and worse the pundits and candidates believed their own hype. Maybe their fans just cant take that the black guy won a second term or that the dow is up again, and thus have to reject fox because even their reporting is not in line with their world view. God its scary how badly these people want to divorce from reality.
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GoatSeeGuy posted:Good to see retirement hasn't kept Boortz from being an angry bitter man. Man, that's a racist dog.
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Crasscrab posted:Man, that's a racist dog. Also, not even accurate. This story has been reported all over the loving place. Whenever a conservative complains that "The Media!!!!11one!" is purposefully sitting on a story, I think of a quote from the first Pirates movie: "No survivors? Then where do the stories come from, I wonder?" But seriously, what is it about American conservatives that draws them to such martyr complexes?
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Monkey Fracas posted:Perhaps the guy that owns Fox News will start an even more right-wing news network that regularly criticises even Fox News. If the demographic's there, hey, why not? You forgot Dick Pills and reverse mortgages, and the scooter store, which is under FBI investigation.
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platedlizard posted:The following is pure speculation on my part, based on how people in the business have described it to me. I am not actually in the business so it's possible that I've misunderstood something. This has actually recently been a very bad thing for Rush. There has been an ongoing effort to monitor the advertising which plays on his station and then contact those businesses to let them know they were appearing to stand beside the hateful things he says. Most of the time thee companies were just block buying and had no clue and call up their ad contacts at the station absolutely pissed and get their ads pulled. Without these block advertisers the income from his show has plummeted. Here's the website that tracks the advertisers: http://stoprush.net/rush_limbaugh_sponsor_list.php
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Shifty Pony posted:This has actually recently been a very bad thing for Rush. There has been an ongoing effort to monitor the advertising which plays on his station and then contact those businesses to let them know they were appearing to stand beside the hateful things he says. Most of the time thee companies were just block buying and had no clue and call up their ad contacts at the station absolutely pissed and get their ads pulled. Without these block advertisers the income from his show has plummeted. AutoZone lost 45% in one quarter in New York State because clear channel was rotating ads on the Rush Limbaugh show. To this day I still blacklist them. gently caress you Auto-Zone, but they sent a nice email saying it was all a mistake. Hey Auto-zone take a hint, you are like papa johns, full of libertarian poo poo heads.
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King Dopplepopolos posted:Also, not even accurate. This story has been reported all over the loving place. Whenever a conservative complains that "The Media!!!!11one!" is purposefully sitting on a story, I think of a quote from the first Pirates movie: "No survivors? Then where do the stories come from, I wonder?" Because there isn't a twitter campaign to poo poo all over black people.
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Nonsense posted:Because there isn't a twitter campaign to poo poo all over black people. That's racist. edit: you should make a twitter account of the people who shop at macy's. You have Donald Trump after all as the head of your ad campaign, fill a store, and get the bargains that you paid over mark-up for. edit 2: I'd rather spend a day getting kicked in the balls over and ovr again than shop at a macy's store. orangesampson fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 25, 2013 |
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GoatSeeGuy posted:Good to see retirement hasn't kept Boortz from being an angry bitter man. Yeah. I haven't seen any stories about the Brunswick baby shooting at all.
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I'm so glad victim and perp are equivalent when they are black. There's always more and it's always worse.
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This is why Obama is the most divisive president. I remember when everyone was shocked and horrified by Martin's shooting and thought that there should have been more of an investigation. Then, Obama divisively agreed with them, forcing them to change their opinion out of spite. Curse you, Obama, for forcing these poor, innocent not-racists to come out in favor of the shooting of a child.
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I think one of the reasons that there are gold ads and stuff on both left and right radio is that political radio ads are cheap to buy. I honestly think that penis pills and Buy Gold and all those places don't care where they advertise, they just buy space on whatever is cheapest. Plus as we all know there are uninformed loonies on the left too. I mean look at all the neo-hippies that buy into holistic medicine. Those are just the type of people to sling those kinds of ads to. As much as we love to talk about right wingers needing to be told what they want to hear, there are lefties like that too.
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Whenever I hear the same terrible ad I've heard for years, especially when it's targeted at the "wrong" demo and at near saturation levels, I think to myself "wow they must make a killing on the few people who actually sign up for this poo poo". edit: (this, basically: http://www.theonion.com/articles/geico-saves-15-percent-or-more-by-discontinuing-ad,4853/ )
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