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RE: Beware Of Chicken Ah, we finally meet the other brother's love interest. StrixNebulosa posted:Reading Library of Heaven's Path back to back with Museum of Deadly Beasts and Yeah, I like them both. I like to think of LoHP as being to trickster faceslapping comedy what golden era silent comedies are to slapstick humor - they explore a particular style of humor over and over in every possible permutation, and it'll be super-repetitive if you're not into that, but if you are, you start to appreciate the skill. Another novel in the LoHP's vein you might enjoy is Absolute Great Teacher, but unlike Museum it's, unfortunately, a lot.... douchier. Megazver fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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y'know in the insanely narrow sub-genre of "ancient mage wakes up 1000 years later to find that magic is crap now" i wish there was a version that was the opposite like an ancient sorcerer emerges from their cave to find a toddler blowing up a mountain with eye-lasers or something
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Well there is that one chapter in Frieren but it's not really evocative like that. It's just pretty simple. The cutting edge magic of the past has simply been superseded by modern techniques. It's still deadly but it's now baseline.
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Yinlock posted:y'know in the insanely narrow sub-genre of "ancient mage wakes up 1000 years later to find that magic is crap now" i wish there was a version that was the opposite Mother of Learning mentions a few times how modern wizards are more powerful and flexible than wizards used to be. It even attributes this to modern wizards teaching each other and sharing their secrets *gasp.*
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Throne of Magical Arcana has vibes like that. A university physics student gets isekai'd from Earth, discovers that magic is real, that magic is mostly based on physics, and that the way to level up as a magician is based on research papers and academic peer review (yes, really). The idea is that magicians gain their power from mental models of physics. Too much cognitive dissonance will literally cause their heads to blow off. Naturally, the MC starts an ongoing scientific revolution. There's entire story arcs about old, crusty journal reviewers arguing about the applicability of non-Euclidean geometry. Powerful, immortal necromancers struggle with the implications of organic synthesis. Chapters and chapters of the world's wisest mages, all arguing about wave-particle duality. ... Alternately, there's the first few chapters of Cultivation 40K, where the ancient world's greatest master of forging magical artifacts travels far into the future and gets immediately run over and killed by a magical bullet train.
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Tobermory posted:Throne of Magical Arcana has vibes like that. A university physics student gets isekai'd from Earth, discovers that magic is real, that magic is mostly based on physics, and that the way to level up as a magician is based on research papers and academic peer review (yes, really). The idea is that magicians gain their power from mental models of physics. Too much cognitive dissonance will literally cause their heads to blow off. Naturally, the MC starts an ongoing scientific revolution.
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Sep 17, 2021 09:00
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it does the thing where all the main characters inventions are plagiarized but theres a bunch of scenes where everyone sucks his dick about being a supergenius constantly. he starts as a musician and just copies beethoven compositions. its a strange decision considering it's, you know, a text medium and the author could just have his character come up with his own compositions.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Any good? Because it sounds like it owns. if it's anything like a typical chinese webnovel the MC probably smugly goes, like, "E=MC2"and all the old wizards immediately orgasm with revelatory insight for three chapters without any indication from the text that the author actually knows what E=MC2 means
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sounds like it owns by the standards of the medium, I mean no-one's mentioned rape or slavery yet!
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Megazver posted:if it's anything like a typical chinese webnovel the MC probably smugly goes, like, "E=MC2"and all the old wizards immediately orgasm with revelatory insight for three chapters without any indication from the text that the author actually knows what E=MC2 means https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFrHWLHPQrg
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reincarnated heavy knight is basically the word cliche repeated over and over in lieu of a story. however, once the poopsocker mc hooks up with his partner it started to become rather charming. the dude is all wrapped up in optimal leveling strats and has absolutely no idea that he has a gf.
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Sep 24, 2021 16:40
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Forge of Destiny is having a Idol Management B plot for the main character corpse child spirit sister and I’m here for this
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Complete with stress management! Edit: gimme the GOD drat candy posted:reincarnated heavy knight is basically the word cliche repeated over and over in lieu of a story. however, once the poopsocker mc hooks up with his partner it started to become rather charming. the dude is all wrapped up in optimal leveling strats and has absolutely no idea that he has a gf. How so? Artificer fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Sep 25, 2021 |
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Sep 25, 2021 07:31
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it'll probably devolve into some harem bullshit sooner or later and that's where my interest in it will end. but for now, i just find the main couple who consist of a newly confident crit monster and a mc who is more spreadsheet than man cute.
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Sep 25, 2021 08:24
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Artificer posted:How so? The MC is your typical "I learned everything about this MMO" type character, complete with your usual class that everyone thinks is bad but is actually good (though in the story's defense, the theorycrafters in the original game worked out how awesome the class could be, but it has a high skill ceiling so no one uses it in the isekai world). The FL is also in a "garbage" class, but with the MC's advice it has quickly turned into loot generator/crit machine. She's also the straight woman to the MC's power leveling schemes, though she goes along with them because she's basically decided that they are a couple. I binged it tonight, and I'd call it a solid C+ / B-, depending on your tolerance for MMO number porn. The FL definitely elevates it from the very by the numbers plot it is following, and I appreciate that it does at least acknowledge that things are going to be obviously different when a MMO becomes a real world (like people won't take crazy weird builds since you can only die once). gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it'll probably devolve into some harem bullshit sooner or later and that's where my interest in it will end. but for now, i just find the main couple who consist of a newly confident crit monster and a mc who is more spreadsheet than man cute. It doesn't seem to have any of that harem stink to it, so I'm hoping the author won't go that route. I'm not sure they can handle writing for that many characters as it is.
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Sep 25, 2021 12:11
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Is there a best-in-genre for MMO number porn web novels? Now I'm curious to check 'em out if they do exist.
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The ones I've read (The King’s Avatar, Reincarnation Of The Strongest Sword God, Play to Live) have been... extremely dumb, even by litrpg standards.
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Megazver posted:The ones I've read (The King’s Avatar, Reincarnation Of The Strongest Sword God, Play to Live) have been... extremely dumb, even by litrpg standards. The King's Avatar is fun, but it has almost no numbers, at least in the version I read. Unusually, the MC is awesome because he's awesome. His character is awesome because of him, not because of the avatar's numbers. The story points this out in several different ways. StrixNebulosa posted:Is there a best-in-genre for MMO number porn web novels? Now I'm curious to check 'em out if they do exist. Someone will probably suggest Delve and Chrysalis and they're both... fine. These three don't fit all your criteria, but I enjoy them enough I'll recommend them anyways https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/43958/breaker-of-horizons is a system-world, not an MMO, but it does the number porn effectively. Leveling adds to the story, rather than detracting from it, which is unusual. https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/36983/tower-of-somnus is a fantastic blend of cyberpunk and litrpg. The story has two intertwined threads. Awake, the MC is a freelance black-operative. Asleep, the MC is pulled into an alien MMO from the civilization that decided mega-corps are evil and blockaded Earth. The stories blend much better than I'm describing it. Number porn is a bit light, especially after the first book, but it's still real good! https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/30737/the-humble-life-of-a-skill-trainer is a unique story from the perspective of a skill trainer. It's a cool cloak-and-dagger type story. It's complete now, and I wish it had been much longer. Solid-number-porn driven narrative and also action. Just one more: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/36299/beneath-the-dragoneye-moons is an enjoyable LitRPG. The MC is a doctor and the plots are so good I wish I'd built my CYOA in a way that would let me steal some of them. LLSix fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Sep 25, 2021 |
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Sep 25, 2021 17:46
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LLSix posted:https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/36983/tower-of-somnus is a fantastic blend of cyberpunk and litrpg. The story has two intertwined threads. Awake, the MC is a freelance black-operative. Asleep, the MC is pulled into an alien MMO from the civilization that decided mega-corps are evil and blockaded Earth. The stories blend much better than I'm describing it. Number porn is a bit light, especially after the first book, but it's still real good! I think of it as like Shadowrun, if instead of magic just appearing one day you got magic powers from playing an Alien VRMMO (Powers gained in the MMO are kept in real life). I enjoy it in a somewhat mindless entertainment sort of way, though unfortunately updates have been getting real slow lately.
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Dragoneye Moon is probably the most inconsistent of the web novels I've read. When its on its good, but it also makes some really baffling choices w/r/t setting and has some of the most awkward and rushed exposition about its system I've read. I'm still more than a little put out that the world is literally a divine experiment where they were just doing whatever(and explicitly loving around and creating things ex nihilo) with tons of magic but somehow physics, biology and disease work exactly as they do in reality. Or the way sexism manifests in ways that never really impact the main character beyond very early on providing the call to adventure. I don't regret reading it and will probably catch back up after I build a bit of backlog, but I dunno I'd recommend it as the best of the genre
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Zore posted:Dragoneye Moon is probably the most inconsistent of the web novels I've read. When its on its good, but it also makes some really baffling choices w/r/t setting and has some of the most awkward and rushed exposition about its system I've read. I'm still more than a little put out that the world is literally a divine experiment where they were just doing whatever(and explicitly loving around and creating things ex nihilo) with tons of magic but somehow physics, biology and disease work exactly as they do in reality. Or the way sexism manifests in ways that never really impact the main character beyond very early on providing the call to adventure. I agree with you about everything you said (except that I think sexism is hard to depict well, and Dragoneye does an adequate job). I also thinks it's one of the better in the genre, which shows how low the bar is.
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Sep 25, 2021 18:45
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every vrmmo novel: the year is 2150. everyone in the world plays one game, because its the best game ever. it has every mechanic that was patched out of everquest in the first 6 months
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Sep 25, 2021 18:57
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StrixNebulosa posted:Is there a best-in-genre for MMO number porn web novels? Now I'm curious to check 'em out if they do exist. "I got reincarnated as a starship pilot" is pretty up there for entertaining trashfire. Its not good.
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Vrmmo/litrpg with no inventory system or bag of holding level bullshit. Everybody has pack animals.
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Telsa Cola posted:Vrmmo/litrpg with no inventory system or bag of holding level bullshit. I Got Reincarnated into My Favorite MMO But Now I Am Just A Packmule Character Hauling Loot for Others (But Secretly the Strongest??!)
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Tunicate posted:I Got Reincarnated into My Favorite MMO But Now I Am Just A Packmule Character Hauling Loot for Others (But Secretly the Strongest??!) That’s one of the plot arcs of… Strongest Sword God, I think? The one about the guy who got a bug in the newbie area and so can’t level up past level 5, but has the stats from 10 years of daily exercise and life or death battles.
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Everyone Else Got Reincarnated Into An MMO And I Do Their Spreadsheets
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I Bought My Account Maxed Out But I Don't Know What My Abilities Do!? I Was A Gold Farmer And Know I'm The Richest Person In The World!? Piell fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Sep 25, 2021 |
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Isn't Overgeared the classic VRMMO story?
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Mr. Prokosch posted:Isn't Overgeared the classic VRMMO story? I just read the first three chapters of that and ugh.
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I thought Legendary Moonlight Sculptor was the classic. It is incredibly long though. I'm only reading it because it was my first one and the translation is still steadily chugging along. To its credit interesting stuff keeps happening even dozens of volumes in since it transitioned from the MC just questing and grinding numbers to being an emperor fighting continent-spanning wars. Sindai fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Sep 25, 2021 |
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The whole idea of LMS and how the protagonist is a player in an MMO who gets to go on these singular adventures that no other player in the world gets to experience is so far removed from any actual MMO design that I couldn’t get into it. I guess that extends to most of the VRMMO genre.
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no, the original was legend of the moonlight sculptor. it's okay, i guess, but then it just keeps going and going and going. it obviously didn't create the idea of vrmmo's, but it popularized them as a genre of webnovels. besides being the first, lms had the odd distinction of being about a good game with lots of freedom and an in-universe reason (an ai story director) why the mc got so many opportunities. but if korean vrmmo webnovels are number porn, their chinese counterparts are more blatantly power fantasies. get rich (because all of them are about p2w games), get a bimbo harem, do everything in front of a crowd of envious onlookers. generally the mc is either physically powerful in real life from the start or becomes that way due to the game, somehow. these games are absolutely always complete garbage that make no sense. the king's avatar is a strange outlier here, in that it is both chinese and mind-bogglingly popular but the more grounded e-sports focus doesn't seem to have inspired nearly as many imitators as the many identical works of shi luo ye. instead of a new subgenre, instead tka got a bunch of multimedia adaptations.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:no, the original was legend of the moonlight sculptor. it's okay, i guess, but then it just keeps going and going and going. it obviously didn't create the idea of vrmmo's, but it popularized them as a genre of webnovels. besides being the first, lms had the odd distinction of being about a good game with lots of freedom and an in-universe reason (an ai story director) why the mc got so many opportunities. So it's kind of a throwback to the early MMO days where volunteer GMs would hijack NPCs to give people quests, since the game didn't have much to do outside of grinding?
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Sindai posted:I thought Legendary Moonlight Sculptor was the classic. Ah, casual and pervasive sexism, how I hate you. Legendary Moonlight Sculptor Chapter 1 posted:For a while now [his little sister] had been drifting off the rails, but she was bright and intelligent, unlike Lee Hyun. He believed that in college she would meet a good husband and be able to live well. I wish this sort of thing wasn't so common. My mom still has to put up with a lot of "women are nurses, not doctors nonsense." And that's not even getting into the things that happened to my female friends in college. LLSix fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Sep 26, 2021 |
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Nemo2342 posted:So it's kind of a throwback to the early MMO days where volunteer GMs would hijack NPCs to give people quests, since the game didn't have much to do outside of grinding? basically, there were a bunch of big important story quests but the way to get there came from various procedurally generated and class specific quests. it's not that being a sculptor was the sole secret path to ruling the game world. rather, weed managed to do some difficult combat quests which got him more difficult quests and then the ai tied it into the epic sculptor questline. the end result is still that weed was the most special player to ever live, but he had to work his way up to that point and there were competitors who had similar experiences. unfortunately any good ideas the story ever had were buried under the ridiculous pointless length. that poo poo went on for entirely too long.
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I just checked, and apparently Overlord (the edgelord Japanese VRMMO power fantasy) started serialization in 2010. It started getting popular just when WoW: Cataclysm was kicking off. This explains a lot. Anyway, after 14 volumes of light novels, 15 manga, and 3 seasons of anime ... it's still actively being written.
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Its Rinaldo posted:Forge of Destiny is having a Idol Management B plot for the main character corpse child spirit sister and I’m here for this One interesting thing I realized about FoD, though I don't know if it's intentional, is that IIRC one attribute of the archetype selected for Ling Qi (when the audience was selecting the character background at the very beginning) was having a special talent, which ended up being something like hearing spirits. So it kind of makes sense that probably the single most unusual thing about Ling Qi (compared with other cultivators) is her stronger-than-normal relationship with spirits. I think this was explicitly brought up at one point semi-recently by Bao Qian, who said that, for most cultivators (presumably with the exception of the ones who literally have spirits in their family trees, like Meizhen's snake or Han Jian's tiger), their relationship with spirits are more akin to having a good friend and working partner. So Ling Qi has a somewhat "normal" relationship with Sixiang (though still probably more deeply personal than with most other cultivators), but her relationship with Hanyi and Zhengui is very unusual.
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Zore posted:Dragoneye Moon is probably the most inconsistent of the web novels I've read. When its on its good, but it also makes some really baffling choices w/r/t setting and has some of the most awkward and rushed exposition about its system I've read. I'm still more than a little put out that the world is literally a divine experiment where they were just doing whatever(and explicitly loving around and creating things ex nihilo) with tons of magic but somehow physics, biology and disease work exactly as they do in reality. Or the way sexism manifests in ways that never really impact the main character beyond very early on providing the call to adventure. I read the first few chapters and it the tone is all over the place, and it seems like the author just wanted to shove random Dark poo poo in without thinking it through at all. There were a few different things that bugged me early on (including most of Ranger Lady's interactions ), but the last straw for me was If a healer's patient dies due to the healer infecting a wound, they get a personal message from god informing them that they killed their patient, and that it was by putting something poisonous into the patient's body. Naturally, having the cause and effect explicitly stated means that medically trained people in this setting
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Tunicate posted:I read the first few chapters and it the tone is all over the place, and it seems like the author just wanted to shove random Dark poo poo in without thinking it through at all. There were a few different things that bugged me early on (including most of Ranger Lady's interactions ), but the last straw for me was Yeah, basically every chapter about Elaine's childhood is really weird and bad because basically everything is at war with itself. You have Elaine operating as both an 8 year old girl and a 20-something snarky modern woman with every sentence basically flipping a coin as to which she'll be characterized as. You have the tone which is sort of breezy and light except when we decide we need to go dark as gently caress for a few paragraphs before bouncing back. You have a lot of incredibly poorly paced exposition littered throughout side by side with scenes where you could have easily imparted it more naturally. It finds its feet for a while and gets better once you finally get out of starter town but the issues never fully go away and different ones crop up as the story goes on. I also still have no idea what purpose most of the Iona chapters serve and there are a really awkward amount of them. If they're foreshadowing for some eventual union with the main storyline easily half of them could be cut with no issue. If they're supposed to be supporting a second narrative to invest the reader in then there are far, far too few of them and they're way too spread out. The main storyline is also at a point where I struggle to carebecause Elaine is with another new cast of nobody Dwarf characters doing nothing and wandering around while there's an actual interesting storyline involving all the characters we're invested in happening almost completely offscreen. Also it just keeps hammering home the 'Elaine is the most special person in existence because her Multiplier Is Higher'. Oh we wandered out of what is apparently a dead zone covering everywhere we've been so far and everyone outside is actually way stronger and higher level? No, actually Elaine is 45000% better at healing than they are 
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