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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlfKE2D16Fc E: Well, that's what I get for not realizing there was another page. Have this one instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvemPyOJZEY Lemniscate Blue fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Aug 18, 2023 |
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Aug 18, 2023 01:28
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If you actually want a sense of scale for one besides some leaves and rocks, this video is good for that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uXSsQWmS8U
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Aug 18, 2023 01:35
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Nenonen posted:I thought microwaves go on top of the clothes dryer? LOL sure. Thanks for the perspective.
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Aug 18, 2023 06:21
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Platystemon posted:If you actually want a sense of scale for one besides some leaves and rocks, this video is good for that. my god, it's huge! 
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Aug 18, 2023 09:05
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StormDrain posted:LOL sure. Thanks for the perspective. I'll support him in having never seen it outside of pictures of US kitchens. I don't have an opinion on it outside that.
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Aug 18, 2023 10:18
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Computer viking posted:I'll support him in having never seen it outside of pictures of US kitchens. I don't have an opinion on it outside that.
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Aug 18, 2023 10:30
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Elysiume posted:Where do they typically go for you? It's been a while since I was outside the US in something other than vacation-y setups. On a kitchen bench (typically in an otherwise inconvenient corner) seems most common. I've seen one on top of the fridge, but that seems way worse than over the stove. You know, I realize I don't know how many kitchens I have looked at (and noticed the microwave). I'm sure I'll be subconsciously looking for it in the future. 
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Aug 18, 2023 10:35
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Computer viking posted:I'll support him in having never seen it outside of pictures of US kitchens. I don't have an opinion on it outside that. Same. I dunno it looks like it would get in the way of the extractor hood for the range to me. Unless they managed to cram one in. I prefer non built in microwaves so I can just get a new one cheaply. We have a shelf in our kitchen, was meant to take a built in model but it was so expensive we said gently caress that noise and turned it into a regular opening that we put a regular microwave in.
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Aug 18, 2023 10:40
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I've seen the "use PTFE tape!" and "don't use PTFE tape!" Stuff before. I've used it and it was fine so who knows, I guess just do whatever? In industry they always use natural fibre with locking.. stuff. (Or at least they're supposed to. I mean the certifiers won't unscrew every loving fitting now will they.) e: Tape will start leaking if you screw back even a little bit. Also the fibre will swell with moisture so it's kinda anti-leak naturally. If you're installing your washing machine, it doesn't really matter because you'll notice real soon if it leaks. 3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Aug 18, 2023 |
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Aug 18, 2023 10:48
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Washing machine hoses are face‐sealed, you philistine.
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Platystemon posted:Washing machine hoses are face‐sealed, you philistine. None of the ones I've seen have been  e: Oh wait yeah there is a gasket in the female end. Welp, just proves my point it doesn't matter what you put on the threads there!
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Aug 18, 2023 11:09
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His Divine Shadow posted:Same. I dunno it looks like it would get in the way of the extractor hood for the range to me. Unless they managed to cram one in. They do. Combining a range hood and a microwave is apparently the one thing the US does that conserves space.
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Aug 18, 2023 11:30
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I was just at a rental that had one of those below counter height microwaving drawers. I think I was into it? Only annoying part was that particular model forced you to pull the drawer out 100% before allowing you to close it.
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Aug 18, 2023 12:21
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I love my lil corner microwave, the door sits high enough that you can set a bowl of food down in front of it and not hit the bowl when opening it up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whs-EUIsaO4
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Platystemon posted:If you actually want a sense of scale for one besides some leaves and rocks, this video is good for that. No joke my woodworking teacher at school was called Mr Woodcock.
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Cat Hatter posted:They do. Combining a range hood and a microwave is apparently the one thing the US does that conserves space. The combinations suck rear end though. The units are limited in how tall they can be and the capacity of the microwave is a selling point listed on the box while the actual performance of the extraction system (beyond raw cfm) isn't. You can't route air ducts through the microwave cavity and a proper air collection hood takes vertical space, so the manufacturers prioritize maximizing the microwave capacity above all else. You end up with huge microwaves with dinky little intakes located near the middle-back of the device and pathetic mm-high overhangs around the edge. The fans are utterly useless on any setting other than high but are very loud on high because they are trying to move air through very narrow passages to hit the flow rate number. Even on high they can't properly pull from over the front elements (the ones people use most often). I really hope that the recent focus on indoor air quality from cooking (particularly with gas) results in standards and regulations mandating actually effective air extraction over cooktops, which would probably completely eliminate combination microwave hoods.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:No joke my woodworking teacher at school was called Mr Woodcock. I thought he taught gym class? 
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moist turtleneck posted:I love my lil corner microwave, the door sits high enough that you can set a bowl of food down in front of it and not hit the bowl when opening it up  But how am I going to fit a whole turkey in that?
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Shifty Pony posted:The combinations suck rear end though. The units are limited in how tall they can be and the capacity of the microwave is a selling point listed on the box while the actual performance of the extraction system (beyond raw cfm) isn't. You can't route air ducts through the microwave cavity and a proper air collection hood takes vertical space, so the manufacturers prioritize maximizing the microwave capacity above all else. This. If I had more counter space I'd like to get a proper vent hood, but my kitchen is small 
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Aug 18, 2023 14:49
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Put the microwave over the oven, and build the range into the counter.
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Jows posted:This. If I had more counter space I'd like to get a proper vent hood, but my kitchen is small Same. I am currently in the middle of a kitchen remodel and desperately wanted a real hood vent, but counterspace is at a premium and I use my microwave constantly so OTR microwave with loud as gently caress fan it is. I did not have enough space for a drawer-style microwave either. The struggle is real.
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I have one of those rising downdraft extractors that cost a fortune and doesn't work which we didn't realise because we didn't check when we bought the place. I suspect that it's just not wired into its base transformer properly because the base unit does power on but I haven't got round to getting under the units to have a look. Even then, I strongly suspect it does not do anything useful.
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Sirotan posted:Same. I am currently in the middle of a kitchen remodel and desperately wanted a real hood vent, but counterspace is at a premium and I use my microwave constantly so OTR microwave with loud as gently caress fan it is. I did not have enough space for a drawer-style microwave either. The previous owner of our house stuck their microwave in the pantry closet (which used to be where the washing machine was so there is an outlet). I wouldn't have throughly to use it if I hadn't seen it when we were looking to buy but the location works surprisingly well!
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My in-laws have a really nice range hood that they specified and had installed and then have never used it. The plastic is still on the grates, and because my MIL has been cooking on the stovetop for almost 20 years there's nasty greasy buildup over the plastic. It's gross.
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Do rooftop-mounted range hood motors exist in the US in residential buildings? That's the most common non-combined setup I've seen here. Seemingly basically universal outside of apartment buildings and similar where they annoyingly combine it with the overall ventilation/extraction system, which depending on how old your building is might be useless (like mine, which runs on a timer and the high speed mode which actually does something to cooking fumes and smells and moisture from the sauna and the bathroom only engages four times a day for an hour each) or if you have your own ventilation unit that you can manually control might actually do its job almost as well as a separate hood fan. But yeah, the one at my parents' house for example is just a long duct from the grease filters on the hood (which obviously also has the controls for the fan) up to the roof where the actual motor and fan exist in one compact unit at the tip of the extraction pipe. Consequently it tends to freeze over during the winter during rapid temperature shifts and moisture builds up inside it that then freezes. It usually gets going after a while though. I imagine it'd be much better in less extreme climates.
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Ruflux posted:Do rooftop-mounted range hood motors exist in the US in residential buildings? That's the most common non-combined setup I've seen here. Seemingly basically universal outside of apartment buildings and similar where they annoyingly combine it with the overall ventilation/extraction system, which depending on how old your building is might be useless (like mine, which runs on a timer and the high speed mode which actually does something to cooking fumes and smells and moisture from the sauna and the bathroom only engages four times a day for an hour each) or if you have your own ventilation unit that you can manually control might actually do its job almost as well as a separate hood fan. Sounds a lot more useful than most of the ones I've seen in CA. My current place is the first one I've lived in with a range hood that vents outside, most of them just blow directly at face level through a useless grease filter.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I have one of those rising downdraft extractors that cost a fortune and doesn't work which we didn't realise because we didn't check when we bought the place. I suspect that it's just not wired into its base transformer properly because the base unit does power on but I haven't got round to getting under the units to have a look. My mother in law loves her downdraft extractor even though you can see that it grabs maybe half the steam. Whenever my in-laws are being weird I just assume it's because they're German.
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I think even the appliance sales person strongly discouraged the high dollar popup downdraft as they just are not effective. I chose my OTR microwave based on it having high cooking wattage and a high cfm fan. It's loud, and recirculates. My house doesn't have the ductwork yet to route it outside but it will eventually.
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I’ve never lived someplace with any sort of vent hood that actually extracted (as opposed to a lovely filter and back out into the kitchen) so y’all are all living a life of luxury afaict
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The Dave posted:I was just at a rental that had one of those below counter height microwaving drawers. I think I was into it? Only annoying part was that particular model forced you to pull the drawer out 100% before allowing you to close it. We considered that option but they're much more expensive and at least according to some of the people we talked to, more prone to failure. We redid our layout and will have one mounted in a full height cabinet like you often see with ovens. It's a regular countertop model but with a fancy trim kit. The trim kit cost as much as the microwave.
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I do like just having a low microwave shelf under the counter. Nothing specific to a built in though, just a flat surface with an outlet in the back.
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the yeti posted:I’ve never lived someplace with any sort of vent hood that actually extracted (as opposed to a lovely filter and back out into the kitchen) so y’all are all living a life of luxury afaict I literally have no idea if mine actually extracts. There's ducting above the stove that goes up into the ceiling but also there's like filtered exhaust looking ports on the front right under the microwave. I can't feel air moving out of it...I think?
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VelociBacon posted:I literally have no idea if mine actually extracts. There's ducting above the stove that goes up into the ceiling but also there's like filtered exhaust looking ports on the front right under the microwave. I can't feel air moving out of it...I think? Your attic is completely full of grease.
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sleepy gary posted:Your attic is completely full of grease. That’s extra insulation, and it’s rust-inhibiting!
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VelociBacon posted:I literally have no idea if mine actually extracts. There's ducting above the stove that goes up into the ceiling but also there's like filtered exhaust looking ports on the front right under the microwave. I can't feel air moving out of it...I think? If you can't feel air moving* you're good. The vent ports are there because the unit can be set up to either vent outside or recirculate. * dip your fingers in water, if air is moving you'll feel one side of your finger get significantly colder than the other due to the evaporation of the water on one side.
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Alternatively, light a match and blow it out so you can watch the smoke follow air currents. Mostly useful for more gentle currents though.
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sleepy gary posted:Your attic is completely full of grease. If I had to pick I’d prefer kitchen vent over bathroom.
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Wasabi the J posted:Your buddy, whose name is Spam? Or your buddy's Spam lasagna? Yes
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